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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 20, 2022, 9:01 pm
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Finally more people are noticing the absurdity of the term
"Asian":
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-calling-asian-salad-104509924.html
[quote]Stop Calling It Asian Salad
...
“I just picked up some Asian salad,” he said. Having not seen
said salad, I asked him what made it Asian. “Not mayonnaise,” he
said with a shrug.
What came out of the box was a cabbage and lettuce salad with
flecks of carrot, scallions, and almond slivers, underseasoned
with soy sauce and sesame oil. Over the course of the party, at
least three others asked the same question: What makes an Asian
salad Asian? We joked about it, but the truth is, this salad hit
a nerve. It felt weird being cowed by cold, soggy vegetables,
but the longer I sat with it, the more pissed I became.
...
When and why did the Chinese in the name get swapped out for
Asian?[/quote]
I don't know when, but it is because of Eurocentrism.
[quote]Dishes can be inspired and fused together, nothing is
truly ever authentic, and I grew up eating and enjoying
diasporic cooking. It’s the Asian descriptor that irks me.
...
“Asian salad is my biggest pet peeve in American food media,
food blogs, and restaurant menus,” says Pailin Chongchitnant,
chef and creator of Hot Thai Kitchen and author of “Demystifying
Thai Cuisine with Authentic Recipes to Make at Home” (at Amazon
and Walmart). “To me, it represents how Asian people have been
treated in North America—as a monolith, as walking stereotypes,
and without respect.”
...
“When you’re calling something Asian, what are you really
saying?” asks Preeti Mistry, chef and co-author of “Juhu Beach
Club Cookbook” (at Amazon). “Calling something Asian doesn’t
describe anything and it requires a lot of assumptions because
most people would be surprised if they ordered an Asian salad
and got something that was full of Indian spices or Filipino
flavors, even though those cultures are in Asia. It’s collapsing
so many diverse cultures into one word.”
...
In the book, “Minor Feelings: An Asian American Reckoning” (at
Amazon), the author Cathy Park Hong gets at the existential core
of what being constantly gaslit by the mainstream public can do
to a person. The experiences aren’t new. But speaking up about
them kind of is. The number of Asian Americans born and raised
in the U.S. is larger than ever but many of us grew up
constantly pounded by microaggressions that we were supposed to
just quietly take. But we’re all grown up now, and some of us
are kind of pissed.
...
“Asian salad as a concept highlights the potentially harmful
ways people can digest cultures different from their own,” says
Divya Gadangi, a Brooklyn-based multidisciplinary artist.
“They’re experiencing something flattened and distorted
expressly for their consumption, and a lot of the time it’s for
some white dude’s gain.”
“The Asian salad aimed to appease the white gaze,” says Gadangi.
...
If you haven’t caught on by now, this article isn’t really about
salad, it’s about words and how they matter.[/quote]
The only historically accurate Asian salad would be a salad from
the historically accurate Asia:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg/721px-Roman_Empire_-_Asia_%28125_AD%29.svg.png
such as:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piyaz
Again, this is Xinjiang:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Xinjiang_in_China_%28de-facto%29.svg/753px-Xinjiang_in_China_%28de-facto%29.svg.png
Imagine how bad Sinocentrism would be in an alternate universe
where this:
HTML https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l1DTeah8YAs/maxresdefault.jpg
was called a "full Xinjiang breakfast" (and the guy in the
background was labelled as being from West Xinjiang). Now you
know how bad Eurocentrism is in the universe we actually live
in.
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Re: Psychological decolonization
By: acc9 Date: June 14, 2022, 4:13 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HWzNnOTaFY
Commercial currently being shown on Hong Kong television -
typical Eurocentric physical attributes that Dolce & Gabbana
employs to capture the non-white admirers of the white male.....
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 30, 2022, 3:33 am
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More people are unlearning Eurocentrism:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqfkJ_AM2yY
Also from the comments:
[quote]Its really insulting to have these Baizuo/Baka Gaijin
tell us the only way to look Chinese/East Asian is to have
upward slanting eyes.[/quote]
[quote]Me: "I thought chun li was always chinese. what would
possibly make you think she looks more chinese now?"
Twitter: "her eyes are more slanty"
Me: "dang thats messed up"[/quote]
[quote]I remember answering to this with the gif of Giorno being
stared at intensely like
"What do you mean she Looks Chinese? describe it to me, what are
Chinese people supposed to look like?"[/quote]
[quote]Mans really said "she has squinty eyes so she's chinese
now" twitter users are a strange creature.[/quote]
Of course there are still also plenty of Eurocentrists over
there who just don't get it and think praising the new design is
"celebrating diversity" (which really means letting "whites"
unilaterally caricature everyone else and then everyone else
being forced to celebrate these caricatures that they themselves
had no input in).
I personally won't be playing SFVI either way because it is in
3D. I have never played SFIV or SFV either for the same reason.
Only 2D can truly capture Chun-Li's personality:
HTML https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/chunnyalpha3-sidefix.jpg
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/65c77122a22b9cf0ab23ccad6467ff17/tumblr_na78xgg00c1qd9g7oo1_1280.png
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Re: Media decolonization
By: SirGalahad Date: June 30, 2022, 11:53 am
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“Baizuo” was a right wing dog whistle, back when I was still
among rightists. I would cast immediate suspicion on people that
use that term. “Baizuo” is basically part of the classic “Wow,
lefties are the REAL racists” repertoire
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 30, 2022, 7:55 pm
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I think it has since been successfully repurposed by our side.
It is now a derogatory term used by the woke to refer to
performative allyship:
HTML https://www.forbes.com/sites/carmenmorris/2020/11/26/performative-allyship-what-are-the-signs-and-why-leaders-get-exposed/
To me it is clear that this is the sense in which the above
commenter was using it. Basically you have:
1) the "white" supremacist who caricatures Chinese as having
slanted eyes, and calls them ugly (rightism);
2) the Baizuo/performative ally who reinforces the caricature by
performatively disagreeing that they are ugly (False Leftism);
3) the woke who challenges the caricature (True Leftism).
The comments I collected in my previous post are comments which
attempt to expose 2), thus practicing 3). For comparison, here
is a comment practicing 2):
[quote]And what's wrong with slanted eyes? I think you're
showing a little racism yourself. She looks less white now, so
people are finding her ugly. Admit it.[/quote]
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Re: Media decolonization
By: christianbethel Date: July 22, 2022, 3:29 pm
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[quote author=rp link=topic=536.msg13110#msg13110
date=1651108480]
For the record, it goes without saying that not all anime
franchises are non-Western...The video actually touches on the
Westernized side of anime, particularly the Eurocentric
caricatures of "blacks" present in certain franchises. This
could be attributed to the Westernization of Japan, especially
after WW2.
[/quote]
And then there's this scene from the eighth episode of the anime
Love Lab:
HTML https://youtu.be/8TMX7pvzDQM
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 2, 2022, 8:10 pm
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg13483/#msg13483
we are getting somewhere with this:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/asian-americans-report-complicated-feelings-173000637.html
[quote]Asian Americans report complicated feelings toward
pan-ethnic label, study shows
..
Most Asian Americans report having a complicated relationship
with the pan-ethnic label, according to a newly published
survey.
On Tuesday, the Pew Research Center published its largest
analysis on the experiences of Asian Americans, which was based
on numerous focus group discussions.
In a data essay and accompanying documentary, focus group
members spoke about the shortcomings of the term “Asian
American,” how people of Asian descent will often be treated or
viewed as foreign even if they were born in the United States,
and the effects of harmful Asian American stereotypes.
Researchers highlighted a common sentiment among respondents
that using the term “Asian American” or “Asian” is less of an
active choice and more of an imposed one.[/quote]
At last you are woke!
[quote]“Coming to a big country like [the United States], when
people ask where we are from … there are some people who have no
idea about Bhutan, so we end up introducing ourselves as being
Asian,” one respondent said.[/quote]
Even if you need a broader regional term, "Asian" is not it.
Calling yourself "Himalayan" would already be much more
accurate:
HTML https://images.mapsofworld.com/answers/2019/12/map-of-bhutan-700x443.jpg
HTML https://www.worldatlas.com/r/w768/upload/7d/e7/a8/himalaya-01.png
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 29, 2022, 6:26 pm
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May more countries follow suit!
HTML https://english.almayadeen.net/news/art-culture/nigeria-becomes-first-nation-to-ban-white-models-in-commerci
[quote]Nigeria becomes first nation to ban white models in
commercials
...
The move is consistent with the government’s policy of
“developing local talent, including economic growth” and
supporting the local advertising industry, the statement said.
Nigeria was previously heavily reliant on foreign models and
voiceover specialists in its ads, including white models and
voiceovers with British accents, according to sources.
The government has been combating such tendencies for quite some
time. It previously demanded that companies attracting foreign
talents should pay a 100,000 naira (around $240) tariff for any
foreign model used in an ad, sources said.
“Ten to 20 years ago if you checked the commercials, I would say
they were almost 50/50 in terms of foreign faces and all the
voiceovers were British accents,” Steve Babaeko, the head of the
Nigerian advertising association, told sources. Multinational
corporations like Coca-Cola or LG relied on their global ad
campaigns in Nigeria, which also featured white models.[/quote]
HTML https://guardian.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/1908r.jpg
With that said, and while I certainly support encouraging
primarily local talent, I would suggest that "non-white" foreign
models be accepted in order to promote solidarity among fellow
former victims of Western colonialism around the world.
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Re: Media decolonization
By: christianbethel Date: September 11, 2022, 4:56 pm
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HTML https://youtu.be/6kJh4ThXfp8
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 11, 2022, 6:31 pm
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"Is this a good thing or a bad thing?"
It is stupid. The False Left's approach has always been to argue
that "non-whites" were already present in ancient Britain, hence
today's "non-white" presence is merely a continuation of that.
Deliberately casting "non-white" actors as Tolkien characters is
part of this approach.
In contrast, the True Left's approach is to argue that even if
no "non-whites" had been present in ancient Britain,
"non-whites" deserve to be in Britain today precisely because of
British colonialism. Therefore it is possible for me to enjoy
the old LOTR movie trilogy (with no "non-whites" in the cast)
while supporting the Great Replacement in real life.
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