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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 15, 2024, 5:46 pm
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Encouraging find by our enemies:
[img]
HTML https://incels.is/attachments/1000000379-jpg.1135882/[/img]
HTML https://incels.is/threads/japan-is-starting-to-get-annoyed-of-white-people.597856/
[quote]This pic is the Toky Metro where they show a white guy
cutting in line.Meanwhile they also show a nigger being
respectfull and in line. Jfl at japs.[/quote]
[quote]The funny part is look at the jaw they are portraying
there.[/quote]
Well done Tokyo Metro!
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Re: Psychological decolonization
By: rp Date: May 9, 2024, 11:47 pm
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It looks like the cringe term "Asian" has now been replaced by
even cringier terms "AAPI" and "South Asian/Brown".
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 11, 2024, 4:43 pm
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Continuing from:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg25511/#msg25511
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/1c81r94/anyone_else_watched_shogun_latest_episode/
[quote]The show perpetuates white oriental fantasies. Theres
nothing new or refreshing about the way they approach the
subject. And to make it worse they seem to have a campaign
promoting the idea that the show is supposed to deconstruct the
white savior trope. Exactly how? Its the same old shit but they
put some dirt and filth on the white character.[/quote]
[quote]It comes off as a somewhat blatant male sexual fantasy if
you’ve watched the whole series.
Man comes to foreign land, is aloof and disinterested but prized
by the lands highest ruler.
He is aloof and disinterested and never chases any of the women.
Ruler repeatedly demands he have sex with the most gorgeous
women in the land and he cannot refuse. Of course a local man is
in love with said woman (the courtesan) and is cuckolded by this
and shows defeated jealousy. The courtesan also is totally
enthralled by the sexual experience with the foreign man.
Again he has another woman (Mariko) who he has sex with and she
is enthralled by him. Her husband is cuckolded and can only
seethe and rage impotently, even cries in another scene because
his wife doesn’t want him.
Apparently the book is quite egregious, there’s pages of dick
worship about how his dick is big and superior and all the women
gather and talk and discuss about the peculiarities of how
superior it is and how the women back in his country must deal
with it.[/quote]
[quote]I actually read part of the book as a kid and honestly
looking back it was definitely a wildly imaginative samurai
fantasy…told from a white male POV. Like the book had some nasty
undertones in how it portrayed several of the Japanese main
characters as being straight up bloodthirsty and psychopathic.
Than it had strange erotica sections where the Japanese women
obsessively fantasize about the Dutch guys dick.[/quote]
[quote]This shit is their modus operandi. It's also exactly what
happened in the movie "The Wolverine" where Wolverine goes to
Japan. Every single Asian/Japanese woman in that movie
inexplicably sides with Wolverine, against their own family and
their own society (Mariko, Yukio, etc). Yukio literally just
becomes his sidekick for a while. Mariko goes against her entire
family and helps Wolverine kill her own father. Of course
there's the obligatory love scene with Wolverine and Mariko as
well. And funny enough, Wolverine still dreams of his original
love Jean Grey, a white woman (I wonder if that was a hidden
message LOL).[/quote]
[quote]Where to begin? This book is the standard white male
fantasy. Glorious wonderful strong white male with a
canonically-mentioned giant dick (so very crucial to all these
stories) sails to feudal Japan, falls in love with beautiful
wonderful Japanese lady who coincidentally happens to be a) the
only person able to speak his language, b) the most desirable
woman in all of Japan, and c) married to a terrible awful
abusive Japanese warlord husband. They start shagging (of
course). Lady spends the entire time worried for white dude's
safety if they are found out. White dude spends entire time
worried about himself and how much he wants his ship back,
despite the fact that he well knows that a) terrible awful
abusive Japanese warlord husband, and b) Japanese law stating
that if the lady is caught in adultery, she will be put to
death. Obviously not as important as the stupid damn ship. But
hey, best solution is of course for white dude to go to his
feudal lord and request that the lady be divorced from her
husband and given to him, so that he can sail away with her to
England. Er, what?
...
As expected, there's multiple scenes where the protagonist's
manhood is remarked upon and admired, there's other sex shit in
there too, including paragraphs upon paragraphs describing sex
toys. There's a scene where Blackthorne is lounging in a kimono
and three girls are doting on him and serving his every "need."
Excerpts from the book:
Kiku returned with the silk-lined case. She opened it and
took out a substantial life-size penis made of ivory, and
another made of softer material, elastic, that Blackthorne had
never seen before. Carelessly she set them aside. “These of
course, are ordinary harigata, Anjin-san,” Mariko said
unconcernedly, her eyes glued on the other objects.
“Is that a fact?” Blackthorne said, not knowing what else to
say. “Mother of God!”“But it’s just an ordinary harigata,
Anjin-san. Surely your women have them!”
“Certainly not! No, they don’t,” he added, trying to
remember about the humor.
Mariko couldn’t believe it. She explained to Kiku, who was
equally surprised. Kiku spoke at length, Mariko agreeing.
“Kiku-san says that’s very strange. I must agree, Anjin-san.
Here almost every girl uses one for ordinary relief without a
second thought. How else can a girl stay healthy when she’s
restricted where a man is not? Are you sure, Anjin-san? You’re
not teasing?”
“No—I’m, er, sure our women don’t have them. That would be—
Jesus, that—well, no, we—they—don’t have them.”Kiku produced a
string of four large round beads of white jade that were spaced
along a strong silken thread. Mariko listened intently to Kiku’s
explanation, her eyes getting wider than ever before, her fan
fluttering, and looked down at the beads in wonder as Kiku came
to an end. “Ah so desu! Well, Anjin-san,” she began firmly,
“these are called konomi-shinju, Pleasure Pearls, and the senhor
or senhora may use them. Saké, Anjin-san?”
“Thank you.”
“Yes. Either the lady or the man may use them and the beads
are carefully placed in the back passage and then, at the moment
of the Clouds and the Rain, the beads are pulled out slowly, one
by one.”
____________________
The three women, led by the old crone, had begun to undress
him .... Then he had become erect and as much as he tried to
stop it from happening, the worse it became—at least he thought
so, but the women did not. Their eyes became bigger and he began
to blush. Jesus Lord God the One and Only, I can’t be blushing,
but he was and this seemed to increase his size and the old
woman clapped her hands in wonder and said something to which
they all nodded and she shook her head awed and said something
else to which they nodded even more. Mura had said with enormous
gravity, “Captain-san, Mother-san thank you, the best her life,
now die happy!” and he and they had all bowed as one and then
he, Blackthorne, had seen how funny it was and he had begun to
laugh.
____________________
After another demonstration dive Blackthorne scrambled onto
the foot of the gangplank and saw Mariko among them, nude,
readying to launch herself into space. Her body was exquisite,
the bandage on her upper arm fresh.
She walked down to him, the tiny crucifix enhancing her
nudity. He showed her how to bend and to fall forward into the
sea, catching her by the waist to turn her over so that her head
went in first.
Then Mariko tried.
Blackthorne saw the taut little breasts and tiny waist, flat
stomach and curving legs. A flicker of pain went across her face
as she lifted her arms above her head. But she held herself like
an arrow and fell bravely outward. She speared the water
cleanly. Almost no one except him noticed.
...
Christ Jesus, that’s much woman, he thought.
____________________
“I’ll be a God-cursed Spaniard if this isn’t the life!”
Blackthorne lay seraphically on his stomach on thick futons,
wrapped partially in a cotton kimono, his head propped on his
arms. The girl was running her hands over his back, probing his
muscles occasionally, soothing his skin and his spirit, making
him almost want to purr with pleasure. Another girl was pouring
saké into a tiny porcelain cup. A third waited in reserve,
holding a lacquer tray with a heaping bamboo basket of
deep-fried fish in Portuguese style, another flask of saké, and
some chopsticks.
This shit goes on and on, and I didn't even catch all the worst
shit.[/quote]
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Re: China and United States Relations
By: rp Date: May 17, 2024, 2:10 pm
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HTML https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/08/why-is-china-so-uncool-soft-power-beijing-censorship-generation-gap/
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 17, 2024, 5:01 pm
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[quote]China’s soft power deficiency has been the subject of
considerable personal angst. I grew up as a minority in suburban
New Jersey, a place where I have never been considered cool,
despite going through all the required motions: playing the
guitar, trying to skateboard, and driving a fast car. I can’t
fully blame my Chinese ethnicity for my lack of coolness[/quote]
Going through the motions is the problem. It's not a sincere
spiritual expression, but instead is mere mimicry of form, and
thus it feels phony.
[quote]These methods are evident today in the Chinese
government’s use of pop music and Hollywood. More often than
not, the results are wooden.[/quote]
This is what I have been trying to point out for years. The
correct attitude is for you as an artist to start off
subjectively as a fan of the pop culture product you yourself
are producing. If even the producer is not a fan, how can the
consumers be expected to become fans? Yet this is the attitude
most absent in "New China". Instead, producers (who hence cannot
be called artists) behave more like market speculators,
producing pop culture products according to what they
objectively predict to be a possible next popular trend.
[quote]It’s an old maxim that trying too hard to be cool
backfires. Just look at the Chinese Communist Party, which has
been flummoxed by the question of how to improve its cultural
image. China’s top-down efforts to expand soft power gained
momentum in 2007, when the Party’s then-General Secretary Hu
Jintao announced that China needed to “vigorously develop the
cultural industry” and to “enhance the industry’s international
competitiveness.” In June 2016, Hu’s successor, Xi Jinping,
criticized the nation’s propaganda bureau for failing to reach
younger audiences and called on them to be more
innovative[/quote]
See?
[quote]Hollywood and state-backed Chinese studios recently
coproduced a $150 million movie, “The Great Wall.” The ambitious
film somehow managed to receive criticism for both whitewashing
(it starred Matt Damon) and pandering to China (Matt Damon
becomes humbled by Chinese virtues). It flopped in its opening
weekend in the United States.[/quote]
This is a corollary: when you try to please everyone, you end up
insulting everyone's intelligence. You have to openly pick a
side. In the above case it is actually obvious which side "New
China" has tacitly picked: the need for a "white" character to
validate supposed Chinese culture is testimony to Eurocentrism.
And that the producers attempt to sell Eurocentrism as pro-China
is the insult.
[quote]Chinese consumers should be world’s new tastemakers. But
their current tastes in entertainment and fashion are largely
sourced from outside the country.[/quote]
The same problem that exists among producers exists also among
consumers in "New China". Consumers are not applying their own
sincere tastes, but instead pre-emptively adjusting their tastes
to what they think will earn them external validation. They want
to be perceived as having good taste, rather than to actually
have good taste.
[quote]One trend that must be particularly baffling to Chinese
bureaucrats is how comparatively tiny South Korea has reaped the
economic and social benefits of hallyu, meaning the flow of
South Korean culture abroad.[/quote]
Again, this is the wrong way to look at it. I will demonstrate
the correct way. Kpop is either good or bad (it is bad). If it
is good (it is not), it would not matter to me even if it is
unpopular; I would still be a devoted fan of it (I am not,
because it is bad). If it is bad (it is), it would not matter to
me even if it is popular; I would still despise it (I do). But
"New China" does not think like I do. Instead, they think: "Look
how popular Kpop is! How can we copy it, since we want to be
popular too?" "New China" is essentially practicing:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/mate-choice-copying/
with pop culture, as opposed to romanticism (what I was
demonstrating above). This approach fails not only when the pop
culture being copied is bad (as with Kpop), but even when the
pop culture being copied is good. For example, I have
recommended that mainland Chinese pop culture pick up from
Counterculture-era Hong Kong/Taiwan stuff which really was
qualitatively among the best ever. But even when they follow my
advice, they do so for the wrong reasons: not because they
themselves first personally become fans of it, but merely
because they as speculators admit its former popularity. Thus
even here they continue to pursue popularity instead of fan
tribute, and whatever they come up with ends up feeling
insincere once again.
[quote]Beijing still fails to grasp that soft power arises when
individuals have room to create and grow — without fear of
censorship or the need to conform to a government
agenda.[/quote]
No, the problem is much deeper than that. Individuals can be
given as much "room to create and grow" as possible, but if
their motive is not fan tribute, it will not matter. They will
keep trying to impress, and the harder they try to impress, the
more annoying they will look.
And even if some of them read this post, they will still not get
it, because they will merely read it as: "Oh no! Trying to
impress is making us look annoying! We'd better tone it down in
order to not look annoying!" They still do not understand what
it means to behave like a fan. Those who have never truly been
fans will never truly be artists.
(And even if they read the last sentence of the previous
paragraph, they will still not get it, because they will merely
read it as: "I want to be an artist, therefore I have to make
myself a fan first!" True fans do not make themselves be fans.)
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Re: Psychological decolonization
By: rp Date: August 9, 2024, 11:02 pm
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HTML https://x.com/PaulSkallas/status/1820788634133377513?t=ZzSoo8ww65bNGFUVuNb0xg&s=19
[quote]
An underrated reason why you see so many white male with Asian
female relationships is because both groups see the other group
as attractive and can't distinguish ugliness from beauty within
that group.
[Quote]
Westerners think Lucy Liu is pretty, but for us Asians, she is
far from it. She has the exaggerated facial features of Asians,
which is probably why Hollywood made her to fame as the token
Asian girl.
[Img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUNgOudW8AA-L-E?format=jpg&name=small[/img]
[/Quote]
[/Quote]
Actually, only the "Asians" in "WMAF" view the "Whites" as
attractive. The "Whites" is don't really view "Asians" as
attractive but are seeking them out for them exoticism.
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 10, 2024, 12:42 am
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[quote]Westerners think Lucy Liu is pretty, but for us Asians,
she is far from it.[/quote]
A more meaningful test would be what third parties (ie.
non-Westerners of different ethnic background than Liu) think.
If they also find her ugly (esp. compared to a celebrity of
equivalent status in China), then it is Western civilization
which is especially aesthetically inferior. But if not, then
another explanation may be required.
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Re: Psychological decolonization
By: rp Date: September 3, 2024, 9:19 pm
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Psychologically colonized Chinese demonstrate their
psychological colonization (and inferior taste for high sexual
dimorphism):
HTML https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/547312-tencent-accused-film-rules/amp/
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Re: Media decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 3, 2024, 9:57 pm
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You forgot to add "New" in front of "Chinese". But onto the
article:
[quote]‘no black people’[/quote]
Contrast with the Counterculture era when game developers not
only turned formerly "white" characters "black" in sequels:
[img]
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but also gave the best excuses for it:
HTML https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/birdie-a3.gif
;D
This is what we need to get back to!
Bonus BGM:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7qyu7HvgM
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Re: Media decolonization
By: rp Date: September 18, 2024, 10:18 am
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I fear India going down this road in the future, where Indian
"nationalism" will just mean antagonism toward "non White" non
Indian ethnicities. Then again, India is too poor to even make
high budget video games, so that gives me hope
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