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#Post#: 4673--------------------------------------------------
Christian Bethel
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 6, 2021, 10:45 pm
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Just came across this... wth:
WRITTEN BY CHRISTIANBETHEL @ChristianBethel
SEPTEMBER 26, 2019
ARYANISM
"It is with a heavy heart I write this post. It is unfortunate
that I must devote the totality of my time to this undertaking.
For the last two years, I have been studying Aryanism, Hitler,
the alleged ‘Holocaust’, National Socialism, etc. I started with
The Greatest Story Never Told, the revolutionary documentary by
Dennis Wise and thought I was making some headway. I soon
afterwards discovered Aryanism.net and their content. It was a
then assumedly ascetic but rewarding ideology I thought I could
emulate. I downloaded thousands of books on the subject, trying
to educate myself in their ways. Everything seemed to be going
smoothly (despite the fact I almost got kicked out of my house
and was banned from the Internet for a time). I even devoted
this blog to Aryanist though for a time.
Then came 2019, and things took a turn for the worse.
I visited the website of the Committee for Open Discussion Of
the Holocaust (CODOH) and signed up on their forum. I started a
thread concerning the treatment of Blacks in NS Germany,
thinking I would get the same answers as Aryanism.net (hereafter
referred to as “Anet”). Anet averred Blacks were treated
humanely with dignity and respect in all aspects of German life,
and to a certain extent, this was true in regards to figures
like Jesse Owens, Alexander Jefferson, and W.E.B DuBois.
Unfortunately, I learned the awful truth: while the Führer
himself was not racist and, contrary to popular belief, was not
all-powerful and gave many of his subordinates autonomy, the
public of Germany was racist. I learned blacks and mulattoes
were forcibly sterilized, discriminated against in their places
of work, forbidden from having any relationships with ‘Aryans’,
and even disbarred from pursuing higher-level education, which
flew directly in the face of NS Germany being “among the fairest
countries in the world”. I also discovered that the de facto
leader of Anet, a user by the name of Aryan Sanctuary, or AS, is
a hypocrite. Why? AS teaches that Aryanism is about
‘universalism’, or compassion towards all. Yet, if his writings
are anything to go by, his conduct towards those who displease
him is quite vicious, and markedly devoid of compassion. This
facet of Anet’s hypocrisy is just one of many. And let us not
omit the other great offense committed by Anet: they do not cite
sources. None of the content on their site about religion,
culture, politics, etc. have any sources. None! For all we know,
Anet could be an elaborate troll, prank, or attempt to
deliberately deceive the masses to topple world governments and
attain power. I honestly don’t know.
I brought this to AS’s attention and, you guessed it, he hurled
insult after insult at me, saying citing sources for a claim is
just a corrupt byproduct of Western civilization (I forgot to
mention; Aryanism hates Western civilization, to the point that
one of their rallying cries is “Western civilization must die!”
Charming.) and that western academics since the Renaissance have
impeded the flow of history into myth. Why someone would
consider every myth as history is beyond me, but they got this
view from Hitler, so there must be a modicum of truth to it.
Regardless, his behavior was unacceptable, and he has been
treating people like this for a decade. As such, I have taken it
upon myself to provide true and valid sources for the numerous
statements and claims made by Anet. I particularly want to focus
on their “Aryan Diffusion” section, as that section utilizes
anthropological conventions. I will update the blog as I come
across new sources for their content, so those seeking to learn
the truth can do so on their own terms."
He thinks there is something wrong with sayng Western
civilization must die? Who is AS? I'm pretty sure the site
repeatedly drives the point that you can't be compassionate with
people that have no compassion, so the crying for his treatment
of our enemies falls on deaf ears. I'm curious as to what he
found out about black Germans that caused his "leaving" of
Aryanism, if you believe in something this potent it seems hard
to leave it for something Hitler didn't support.
#Post#: 4674--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cristian Bethel
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 6, 2021, 10:48 pm
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Also the True Left forum has enough Western sources to
thoroughly reinforce Nearly everything seen on the main site.
#Post#: 4677--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cristian Bethel
DIR By: guest5
Date: March 6, 2021, 11:08 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Compassion literally means “to suffer together.” Among emotion
researchers, it is defined as the feeling that arises when you
are confronted with another's suffering and feel motivated to
relieve that suffering. Compassion is not the same as empathy or
altruism, though the concepts are related.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/topic/compassion/definition
In Christian's mind only AS' compassion, or lack there of, is
noteworthy. Never did Christian ask himself whether or not he
lacks compassion towards AS though, did he? How does AS feel to
have put so much of his own time and effort into this activism
and then only to have people who refuse to do any real work
constantly badger him about details they could just as easily
figure out for themselves? Cthen, as you pointed out, all of the
information and sources we have posted on this forum were, and
are, also available to Christian Bethel. How hard did Christian
actually research? Sounds like to me what Christian really
wanted was for everything to be handed to him on a plate. His
mental laziness has also frustrated myself on more than one
occasion....
#Post#: 4700--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cristian Bethel
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: March 9, 2021, 1:16 pm
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If you people have something you want to say to me, say it to me
directly instead of making a thread insulting me.
To OP: If you're gonna make a thread where you air grievances
about someone without their knowledge, the least you could do is
spell their name correctly.
#Post#: 4729--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cristian Bethel
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 11, 2021, 10:00 am
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--- Quote from: christianbethel link ---
>
> If you people have something you want to say to me, say it to
me directly instead of making a thread insulting me.
>
> To OP: If you're gonna make a thread where you air grievances
about someone without their knowledge, the least you could do is
spell their name correctly.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'll tag you if you want. If the H in your name is so important
to you I can add that as well.
If you're past the meaningless, is there a problem with the
grievances I aired? Did I misrepresent anything? I had no
questions for you, you already displayed how you think. I had
questions about AS, however they are irrelevant to your issue.
If you have problems with us talking about you, don't talk about
us. I don't understand how you made a blog about Aryanism and
expected me, an Aryanist, not to talk about it.
#Post#: 4732--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cristian Bethel
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: March 11, 2021, 11:09 am
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--- Quote ---
> If the H in your name is so important to you I can add that as
well.
--- End Quote ---
It's proper etiquette to spell someone's name correctly when
bringing them up in conversation over the Internet.
--- Quote ---
> Is there a problem with the grievances I aired? Did I
misrepresent anything? I had no questions for you, you already
displayed how you think. I had questions about AS, however they
are irrelevant to your issue.
--- End Quote ---
The problem I have is that you made an entire thread on a forum
airing [erceived grievances about me when you could've contacted
me privately. And you graciously didn't even ask me about why I
aired those grievances because you just took the liberty to make
assumptions about me. Don't pretend to know how I think.
--- Quote ---
> If you have problems with us talking about you, don't talk
about us. I don't understand how you made a blog about Aryanism
and expected me, an Aryanist, not to talk about it.
>
--- End Quote ---
I made that post a year ago. You just now made this thread. You
say that like I've repeatedly made posts about Aryanism.
#Post#: 4733--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christian Bethel
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 11, 2021, 1:50 pm
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You have a problem that a forum, connected to site you posted
about, is talking on that forum instead of directly to you? Much
like your dislike of the saying "western civilization must die"
this makes zero sense to me, and is likely just nonsense.
Also I'd say I know just how you think. Dimly. You came here
where people are talking about your ideology and your response
is that I didn't message you directly.
#Post#: 4816--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christian Bethel
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: March 14, 2021, 2:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Cthens link ---
>
> You have a problem that a forum, connected to site you posted
about, is talking on that forum instead of directly to you? Much
like your dislike of the saying "western civilization must die"
this makes zero sense to me, and is likely just nonsense.
--- End Quote ---
If you really think making an entire thread to talk about
someone instead of talking to them directly makes sense, then
you have my pity and I sincerely hope you get the help you so
clearly need.
--- Quote ---
> Also I'd say I know just how you think. Dimly. You came here
where people are talking about your ideology and your response
is that I didn't message you directly.
>
--- End Quote ---
You don't know a goddamn thing about me. Don't pretend like you
do.
#Post#: 4824--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christian Bethel
DIR By: Ganbaru
Date: March 14, 2021, 9:34 pm
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"You don't know a goddamn thing about me. Don't pretend like you
do."
No ones cares about you, you're not important. Go back to
mourning over ww2 gopniks, preferably on counter strike or
somewhere where you can't waste someone's precious time with
your revisionist foppery.
@Cthens
"Also the True Left forum has enough Western sources to
thoroughly reinforce Nearly everything seen on the main site."
It never seems to be enough for CristianBetel, he might even be
producing revisionist material that he will sell while getting
answers for free from AS. There's nothing of value from the blog
post you quoted, in my opinion.
#Post#: 4843--------------------------------------------------
Re: Christian Bethel
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: March 15, 2021, 3:39 pm
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@Ganbaru Please tone down the vicious, ad hominem attacks.
Almost every time you post here, you come off as needlessly
aggressive, and I don’t think anyone here wants this community
to have that kind of reputation. If you must debate, then
remember to keep a cool head and do it respectfully. We’re all
supposed to represent the very best of society, and we need to
try our best to embody that archetype in all facets of life
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