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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 6, 2024, 2:58 am
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Hitler was Leftist
Translated from German into English Language
[quote]But we National Socialists want to attract all socialists
and communists to our side, we want to win them over from their
international camp to the national one. We could not do anything
that would have the opposite effect. For this reason, too,
propagating the monarchy is out of the question for us. - Adolf
Hitler[/quote]
Source :
Hitler aus nächster Nähe. Aufzeichnungen eines Vertrauten
1929-1932 Page 89
HTML https://archive.org/details/wagener-otto-hitler-aus-nachster-nahe-1978/page/89/mode/2up?q=nationale+gewinnen
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 20, 2024, 12:28 am
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[quote]...against most contemporary interpretation, it has to be
remembered how both Italian and German fascism had a strong
left-wing component to them, precisely socialist, and a wide
popular basis. Both their rhetorics were strongly against
plutocracy, against bankers (identified in the stereotype of the
Jew), in favour of workers’ power and proletariat supremacy. In
fact, both fascism and nazism opposed the communist alternative
only on the grounds of their supposedly more efficient methods
in the conquest of the same revolutionary aim. In other words,
it has to be finally admitted that fascism and nazism alike have
always been, since their origin, one of the many shades of the
authoritarian left.[/quote]
Source :
Campagna, Frederico. (2011). Recurring Dreams - the red heart of
fascism. Accessed on, 19th October 2024, from
HTML https://libcom.org/article/recurring-dreams-red-heart-fascism
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 20, 2024, 8:05 pm
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[quote]Even at this early stage, therefore, the nature of the
war was becoming clear. It was Hitler’s response to the German
predicament at the heart of Europe, an attempt to escape what he
saw as her historic encirclement and subjugation. Now that he
had given up all hopes of a British alliance, and of
accommodation with Anglo-America, his language shifted from that
of Nordic solidarity to that of a global class conflict in which
he substituted nations for the classic Marxist social
categories. The United States and the British Empire, on this
reading, were the ‘haves’, the lords of all they surveyed. The
Germans, by contrast, were firmly among the ‘have-nots’, ground
down by the forces of ‘plutocracy’, which were determined to
extirpate the contagious social model of the Nazi Volksstaat.
They would have to redress the unjust global distribution of
living space by force. The Führer also emphasized the
ideological conflict between democracy and dictatorship.
Finally, Hitler saw the struggle as a cosmic racial conflict,
not just–most obviously–between Germans and Jews, but also an
inter-Aryan civil war, between Teutons and Anglo-Saxons.[/quote]
Source :
Hitler : A Global Biography by Brendan Simms Page 422 and 423
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 20, 2024, 9:41 pm
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[quote]Hitler’s Reichs Press Chief Otto Dietrich writes in his
memoirs that Hitler had sensed that
... the economic requirements of human large-area development
had outgrown the structure of the former self-regulating private
capitalistic economic system and that common sense demanded a
new, more efficient economic structure, in other words a planned
overall management. The economic principle he was envisaging can
be expressed as follows: private capital production based on a
belief in the common good and under state control!125[/quote]
Source :
1. Hitler's National Socialism by Rainer Zitelmann Page 330
2. Dr Rainer Zitelmann. (2024, February 6). How Hitler Became a
Believer in the State-Planned Economy. Retrieved October 21,
2024, from Foundation for Economic Education website:
HTML https://fee.org/articles/how-hitler-became-a-believer-in-the-state-planned-economy/
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 23, 2024, 9:29 pm
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Short writings to show that Hitler were socialist and leftist
[quote]The government does limit foreign exchange, imports and
exports, prices, wages, and the allocation of labor. It
determines the quantity and nature of what is to be produced.
Profits are limited and directed by the government back into
reinvestment for expansion or into the acquisition of government
bonds to provide more capital for rearmament.[/quote]
Source :
Hitler and Nazi Germany by Jackson J. Spielvogel Pages 178 and
179
[quote]The government tells these entrepreneurs what and how to
produce, at what price and from whom to buy, at what price and
to whom to sell. The government determines how much labor must
be paid, and to whom and for what period of time the capitalists
must entrust their funds. Market exchange is a disgrace.[/quote]
Source :
Ludwig von Mises. (2021, December 4). Planned Chaos. Retrieved
October 23, 2024, from Mises Institute website:
HTML https://mises.org/mises-daily/planned-chaos
[quote]Companies and organizations that regularly engaged in
large-scale political funding continued—right up until the last
election before Hitler’s appointment as chancellor—to give the
bulk of their funds to Nazi opponents or rivals.[/quote]
Source :
German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler by Henry Ashby Turner
Jr. Page 346
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[quote]Another source of the Nazi Party’s popularity was its
liberal borrowing from the intellectual tradition of the
socialist left. Many of the men who would later become leaders
of the movement had been involved in communist and socialist
circles in the waning years of the Weimar Republic.[/quote]
Source :
Hitler's Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi
Welfare State by Götz Aly Page 27
[quote]Hitler's concept of an organized economy is similar to
true socialism”[/quote]
Source :
Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography by John Toland Page 314
[quote]One final similarity between Nazi and Soviet policies
should be noted, although its significance is far from clear.
Both governments reorganized industry into larger units, with
the aim of increasing state control over economic
activity.[/quote]
Source :
SOVIET AND NAZI ECONOMIC PLANNING IN THE 1930s Peter Temin
Massachusetts Institute of Technology May 1990 Page 17
[quote]...especially since the early 1940s, shows that he
[Hitler] had been a fierce critic of the free-market system and
an adherent of a planned and state-controlled economy[/quote]
Source :
Hitler's National Socialism by Rainer Zitelmann Pages 332 and
333
[quote]It was Benito Mussolini who were rightist on political
spectrum, because he still allowed his officials to accumulate
capital and the presence of high-class bankers in Mussolini's
leadership
It was the dictatorship of Francisco Franco who were rightist on
political spectrum, because he still allowed the feudal class to
remain strong in Spain[/quote]
Source :
Hitler's National Socialism by Rainer Zitelmann Pages 556 to 558
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 29, 2024, 8:13 pm
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[quote]Hitler was a socialist like Marx. They both shared the
same ultimate goal - the socialization of society into a
harmonious society free from exploitation - but they differed
significantly in the methods needed to achieve it.
...
Hitler wanted an economy that he could "control without owning",
thus eliminating the need to exterminate the entrepreneurial
class in a civil war, as the Bolsheviks had done. 38 He thought
Marx and Lenin had the right goal, but they had gone about the
project in the wrong way.[/quote]
Source :
How 'socialist' was National Socialism?: A consideration of the
ideology of the NSDAP in Germany Kindle Edition by Alan Brown
HTML https://www.amazon.com/How-socialist-National-Socialism-consideration-ebook/dp/B00ZM3S6ME?asin=B00ZM3S6ME&revisionId=72b40c6c&format=1&depth=1
[quote]On June 26 [1944] about a hundred representatives of the
armaments industry gathered in the Platterhof coffee room.
During our session in Linz, I saw that their dissatisfaction was
also partly connected with the increasing interference of the
party apparatus in economic affairs. In fact, a kind of state
socialism seemed to be developing, supported by many party
functionaries. They had succeeded in distributing all the
state-owned factories to the various party districts and
subordinating them to their own district enterprises. In
particular, many underground factories, which had been equipped
and financed by the state, but whose directors, skilled workers,
and machinery had been provided by private industry, seemed
destined to come under state control after the war. 14 Our
system of directing industry in the interests of war production
could easily become the framework for a state socialist economic
order. The result was that our organization, ever more
efficient, provided the party leaders with an instrument for
destroying private enterprise. - Albert Speer, Minister of War
Industries[/quote]
Source :
Inside the Third Reich Memoirs by Albert Speer -- Albert Speer,
Richard Winston and Clara Winston -- 1970 -- The Macmillan
Company Page 358 and 359
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 30, 2024, 11:10 pm
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[quote]“I have learned a great deal from Marxism, and I do not
hesitate to admit it,” “I do not mean their boring social
doctrine or their materialist conception of history, or their
absurd theories of ‘marginal utility’ and so on. But I have
learned from their methods. The difference between them and me
is that I have actually put into practice what these hucksters
and writers have so timidly begun. The whole of National
Socialism is based on it. Look at the workers’ sports clubs, the
industrial cells, the mass demonstrations, the propaganda
leaflets written specifically for the understanding of the
masses; all these new methods of political struggle are
essentially derived from Marxism. All I have to do is to take
over these methods and adapt them to our aims. I have only to
develop logically what Social Democracy has repeatedly failed to
do because of its attempt to carry out its evolution within a
democratic framework. National Socialism is what Marxism might
have become if it had been able to break its absurd and
artificial ties with the democratic order.”– Adolf
Hitler[/quote]
Source :
Hitler Speaks: A Series of Political Conversations with Adolf
Hitler on His Real Aims by Hermann Rauschning Page 185
HTML https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.505385/page/n185/mode/2up?q=the+whole+of+National+Socialism
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: October 31, 2024, 10:59 pm
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Hitler implemented leftist government, but still needed to
compromise with the rightist factions when working on it
[quote]This ideologically mistaken assessment was to avenge
itself, however, because it was not the Communists who became a
danger for him. He had won over many of them, who had become
fervent adherents of National Socialism. Others offered
resistance, but they never posed a threat to Hitler's rule. The
actual dangers came from conservative men such as Carl Friedrich
Goerdeler, from Ulrich von Hassell and Johannes Popitz, who can
only be described as extreme reactionaries, and from monarchists
like Hans Oster and Wilhelm Canaris (Hoffmann, 1974). At least
from 1938 onwards, these forces engaged in a systematic
conspiracy and opposition, which was not at all doomed to
failure from the beginning.
It was only towards the end of his life, when he appreciated the
total and irreversible failure of the Third Reich, that Hitler
recognised that it had been a mistake to proceed so one-sidedly
against the forces on the left and to spare those on the right.
At a conference of the Gau (regional) leaders on 24 February
1945 he said, as his adjutant Nicolaus von Below reports, “We
liquidated the left-wing class fighters, but unfortunately we
forgot in the meantime to also launch the blow against the
right. That is our great sin of omission” (von Below, 1980, p.
403).
In view of his failure, Hitler searched for an explanation for
his defeat and recognised that his alliance with the bourgeois
and right-wing forces was irreconcilable in the long run with
the radical revolutionary policies he had conceived. And he had
not ‘forgotten’ to launch ‘the blow against the right’, but,
based on his ideological premises, had simply not believed it to
be necessary – at least until the assassination attempt of 20
July 1944 – to proceed against his opponents on the right. In
view of the war plans Hitler was pursuing, proceeding against
the right, which played an important role in business, the
military and the civil service, would moreover hardly have been
possible, particularly since he would thereby have provoked a
dangerous ‘war on two fronts’ in domestic politics.
Resignedly, he stated in his political testament:
Since we lacked the élite we had envisaged, we had to make do
with the human material to hand. The results are what you would
expect! Because the mental concept did not agree with the
practical possibilities of implementing it, the war policy of a
revolutionary state such as the Third Reich necessarily became
the policy of reactionary petit bourgeois. (Hitler, 1981, p.
73)[/quote]
Source :
1. Hoffmann, P. (1974). Widerstand, Staatsstreich, Attentat. Der
Kampf der Opposition gegen Hitler. Ullstein Verlag.
2. von Below, N. (1980). Als Hitlers Adjutant 1937–1945. Hase &
Köhler.
3. Hitler, A. (1981). Hitlers politisches Testament. Die
Bormann-Diktate vom Februar und April 1945. Mit einem Essay von
Hugh R. Trevor-Roper und einem Nachwort von André
François-Poncet. Albrecht Knaus.
4. Rainer Zitelmann. (2022). The role of anti‐capitalism
in Hitler’s world view. Economic Affairs, 42(3), 515–527.
HTML https://doi.org/10.1111/ecaf.12551
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: November 1, 2024, 3:18 am
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Translated from German to English by Google Translate
[quote]Why does the SS run an economy? This question was raised
in particular by circles that think purely in capitalist terms
and do not like to see the creation of companies that are public
or at least have a public character.
The era of the liberal economic system demands the primacy of
the economy, i.e. first comes the economy and then the state.
National Socialism, on the other hand, takes the position:
The state commands the economy,
the state is not there for the economy,
but the economy is there for the state."[/quote]
Source :
Georg, E. (1963). Die wirtschaftlichen Unternehmungen der SS.
DVA. Page 145
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
By: antihellenistic Date: November 2, 2024, 2:11 am
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Another Proof that Hiter's Regime were Socialist, it against
Market-Mechanism Economic System
[quote]At the mills, orders for hundreds of thousands of tons
were piling up that could not be filled in the near future.
Under normal circumstances, the response would have been to
raise prices.88 However, the Reich authorities were anxious to
avoid a shortage of imported raw materials spilling over into
general inflation. Thus, Gauleiter Wagner, who was in charge of
price controls in the Four-Year Plan, issued a blanket ban on 26
November 1936 prohibiting any price increases.89 By formalizing
the developments that had begun in the early 1930s, this
effectively eliminated market mechanisms as a means of managing
shortages in the German economy.
The next logical step, as the RNS in agriculture had recognized
at least a year earlier, was the introduction of rationing,
managing shortages through bureaucratic allocations rather than
market processes. Nonferrous metal rationing was adopted in
January 1937; steel rationing was introduced on 23 February
1937.90 To resolve the backlog with the mills, all steel orders
that had not been filled by the end of April 1937 were canceled.
Since the end of February, new orders for steel could only be
placed on the basis of steel rights issued according to national
priorities as determined by the Reich Ministry for Economic
Affairs.[/quote]
Source :
The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi
Economy Page 231
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