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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: guest55
Date: December 27, 2021, 4:18 pm
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Trump Brutally Schools Candace Owens on Vaccines
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> --Donald Trump brutally schools Candace Owens when she tries
to go anti-vaccine on him during a bizarre interview
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0_XKgmnApU
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 4, 2022, 8:46 pm
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And again:
HTML https://www-firstpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.firstpost.com/health/france-detects-new-covid-19-variant-ihu-more-infectious-than-omicron-all-we-know-about-it-10256521.html/
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> France detects new COVID-19 variant 'IHU', more infectious
than Omicron: All we know about it
> The new variant — B.1.640.2 — which has been detected in 12
patients near Marseille, contains 46 mutations, making it more
resistant to vaccines and infectious
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How many times do we have to repeat this cycle before people get
it? As long as transmissions keep happening (even if
asymptomatically), the virus will keep evolving until it can get
past the vaccine. So you have take a booster shot. And then the
virus will keep evolving until it can get past that as well. So
then you take another booster shot. And so on. As long as
transmissions are allowed to keep happening, nothing is
fundamentally improving. But when I try to explain this, people
say: "Well, if it makes no sense, why is it so widely accepted?"
And I say: "Borrowing money at interest makes no sense either."
The real answer is that this entire problem-solving approach
will continue to be accepted in all domains so long as its
philosophical foundations are not dismantled.
Immunity approach = "We will evolve to be immune to you, and if
you keep evolving in response, we will just keep evolving
faster!"
Lockdown approach = "We will (by preventing transmissions)
prevent you from evolving, so that we don't need to evolve
either!"
The immunity approach is, at its core, a manifestation of
progressivism (and hence equating the acquiring of more and more
immunity with strengthening). The lockdown approach is a
manifestation of regressivism (and hence equating the acquiring
of more and more immunity with adulteration).
Regressivism must defeat progressivism if we are to break the
cycle.
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/leftists-against-progressivism/
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 11, 2022, 10:40 pm
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At least we won't have to worry about running out of Greek
alphabet letters if we can just combine them.....
HTML https://theaseanpost.com/article/cyprus-scientists-discover-deltacron-covid-strain
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> A researcher in Cyprus discovered a strain of the coronavirus
that combines the Delta and Omicron variant, Bloomberg News
reported on Saturday.
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> Leondios Kostrikis, professor of biological sciences at the
University of Cyprus and head of the Laboratory of Biotechnology
and Molecular Virology, called the strain “Deltacron,” because
of its Omicron-like genetic signatures within the Delta genomes.
> ...
> Recombinant forms of viruses can arise when there are multiple
variants of a pathogen circulating, said Nick Loman, a microbial
genomics professor at England’s University of Birmingham who
studies the coronavirus.
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And why are they still circulating? Because you idiots are
relying on vaccines instead of lockdowns!
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: January 18, 2022, 12:44 am
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The Biden administration has officially given up at halting the
pandemic:
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> “Omicron, with its extraordinary, unprecedented degree of
efficiency of transmissibility, will, ultimately, find just
about everybody,” Fauci told the Center for Strategic and
International Studies during a “fireside chat.”
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HTML https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/589344-fauci-omicron-will-infect-just-about-everybody
This means that the only way the pandemic will end is by
democratic nations achieving herd immunity. (Even competent
governments like China are not safe, because the virus can
constantly be re-transmitted into their nation as long as a
reservoir remains in dysfunctional Western nations!) Since
individuals can catch Covid again within as little as 3 months,
this means herd immunity will be impossible without wide-spread
vaccination. Relying on a population of vaccinated people +
people with "natural immunity" is not enough, since the "natural
immunity" people will constantly be reinfected like a game of
musical chairs as waves of the virus spread throughout each
nation.
So, from a public health perspective, we are completely f*cked,
and have to handle this on an individual level.
I would recommend that everyone here get the vaccine. Regarding
the ethical considerations, sometimes we have to make
compromises on our journey if we are ever to make it to the
ultimate goal. If we are too inflexible, we risk being cut down
before even coming close to accomplishing anything, thereby
allowing evil to continue just because we were too stubborn to
pick our minor battles.
Even if the vaccine cannot 100% prevent transmission of the
virus, all evidence shows that it nearly eliminates the risk of
death and hospitalization for individuals who are infected with
"breakthrough" cases. As individuals, we are of no use to social
justice activism if we die coughing up foamy saliva from a
stupid virus. This is not the hill to die on.
If we manage to survive the pandemic, the reduction of
exploitation that our actions will be able to achieve will
drastically outweigh the potential unethicalness of partaking in
a small vaccine that billions of people have already taken. (If
it makes you feel any better, governments are over-producing the
amount of vaccines, since they can't be stored forever, and you
are not contributing to additional "demand" for the vaccine,
since they are being over-produced whether you sign up to get
one or not.)
Omicron is so insanely infectious that it does seem likely that
nearly everyone will get exposed to it (even those of us who
have managed to avoid contracting Covid thus far). The media is
reporting it is less dangerous to the body than previous
strains, but I think this is partially propaganda to keep the
public from panicking. (The hospitals in the US and other
nations are about ready to collapse, since the daily peak of
infections for omicron in the US is like 4-5x greater than the
delta wave where numerous hospitals throughout the nation were
at 100% capacity and had to let people die from heart attacks,
appendix ruptures, etc. because they simply had no doctors to
treat non-Covid patients either!!!) Even if this strain is
drastically less deadly than the previous ones, it still carries
the risk of death or long-lasting symptoms for the unvaccinated.
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: rp
Date: January 19, 2022, 8:23 am
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I've had for a few weeks now symptoms of what Western medical
diagnosis would label "Omicron". I had some flu-like symptoms
first (chills, aches, fevers), and now I have a severe cough. I
didn't get tested because Western medical diagnosis is of little
use to me, and also because I've been infected with the flu
before, 10 years ago, and I felt then exactly as I did now. I
haven't been vaccinated against the flu, which was probably why
I was infected with it, and it is probably why I've always been
a sickly child. This shows the extent of how disease-ridden the
West really is: disease is so pervasive in their society that
Westerners require an annual vaccine to (temporarily) suppress
it, only to require a vaccine the next year for a new strain.
I do not plan on getting vaccinated, as I do not fear death. I
have experienced extreme illness in my life multiple times; when
I was a pre-teen, I suffered from asthma which caused extreme
pressure in my lungs and made me feel like I was literally going
to die (non-Western doctors later identified the cause of asthma
as being other vaccines which I had received as I child, as my
non-Western body was rejecting the vaccine (designed for
Westerners). The flu itself made me so sick 10 years ago to the
point of having near death experiences. I have essentially
experienced death and rebirth as a child, which has led to my
discovering of Aryanism to find a solution to the disease-ridden
West.
Moreover, the vaccine itself is not effective in preventing
further mutations, so it is essentially useless, and there is
also no guarantee that I will not receive side effects due to my
body rejecting the substance. I find it futile to inject my body
with foreign substances based on some Western probabilistic
calculation that it will probably do more good than harm. If I
die, I die; taking "preventative" action based on "scientific"
evidence is not guaranteed to stop this anyway.
I hope I have been of value to this forum. Unfortunately, I was
not able to complete the project that I initially signed up for,
but I have nevertheless been able to provide some content to
this forum by creating some of the threads and replying to some
of the posts, so I am thankful for that opportunity.
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: guest55
Date: January 19, 2022, 1:57 pm
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> I hope I have been of value to this forum. Unfortunately, I
was not able to complete the project that I initially signed up
for, but I have nevertheless been able to provide some content
to this forum by creating some of the threads and replying to
some of the posts, so I am thankful for that opportunity.
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My sentiments exactly.
I do not plan on taking the vaccine either. I do not fear death
either. If the pain becomes unbearable I'll just use a bullet to
end it. If more people felt this way we wouldn't even need
Western medicine really, which is just another indicator of how
sick the West really is, spiritually, mentally, and physically.
It also says a lot about the people who would like to live
forever in the hell they are creating in my mind, definitely
another symptom of their sickness!
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: guest55
Date: January 19, 2022, 2:03 pm
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Speak of the devil....
How omicron broke through coronavirus vaccines
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> The highly transmissible omicron variant of the coronavirus
has taken over as the dominant strain in the United States,
resulting in breakthrough infections among the vaccinated.
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> Omicron has sparked alarm both internationally and in the
United States, where it accounted for more than 98 percent of
new infections during the week ending Jan. 8, according to the
most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention.
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> The variant has an unusually high number of mutations that
make it significantly more contagious and capable of eluding the
body’s first line of immune defenses.
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: Dazhbog
Date: January 21, 2022, 7:06 pm
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> I do not fear death.
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> I do not fear death either.
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The question isn't whether you fear death, but whether you fear
dying without having done your utmost to end a substantial
number of non-Aryan bloodlines. If you think you haven't, I
recommend you follow Zea_mays' advice.
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 23, 2022, 8:26 pm
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Western brains are broken:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5r6UJsgqLw
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> "New variants will appear as many people get infected..."
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Simple logic based on only the above information would lead to
the conclusion that the correct way to stop new variants from
appearing is to prevent people from getting infected using
lockdowns. But instead the guy then goes right back to talking
about vaccines as if he never even heard himself speak the first
part of his own sentence!
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Re: Vaccination
DIR By: guest55
Date: January 23, 2022, 11:10 pm
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How Vaccine Patents Make The Covid Crisis Worse
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> The multi-billion-dollar patent war over the mRNA coronavirus
vaccine has grabbed the attention of the likes of leaders from
President Biden to Bill Gates. Its outcome could yet again
change the course of the pandemic.
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> It's been well over a year since a landmark proposal brought
the issue of patent waiver for the mRNA Covid vaccine to the
spotlight. But many observers don't see that waiving the
intellectual property (IP) rights on Covid vaccines is an
effective way to put a stop to the pandemic.
>
> Supporters of patent waivers like Harsha Thirumurthy,
associate professor of medical ethics and health policy at the
University of Pennsylvania, argue the issue lies at the heart of
the reason why vaccines are less accessible in lower-income
countries.
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> "It limits how much manufacturing there can be of that product
or that vaccine," said Thirumurthy, adding it keeps the price
"artificially high enough that it limits the ability of other
countries in the world."
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> But critics counter that patent waivers will not automatically
lead to an improvement in global vaccine distribution.
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> Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates was among those who originally
spoke out against the patent waiver, emphasizing that there are
problems beyond patents that must be addressed first. Gates
later reversed his stance and is now in full support of
temporarily waiving the protections over coronavirus vaccine
patents.
>
> "Having a billion vaccines sitting in a warehouse of a lab
that's developing will do no good getting us back to normal,"
said Heath Naquin, vice president of government and capital
engagement at the University City Science Center, a nonprofit
research organization, in Philadelphia.
>
> "The patent waiver itself doesn't actually solve that core
issues in many developing countries, which are not related to
the recipe, they are related to the way you get that out the
door to people."
>
> However, experts on both sides of the debate seriously doubt
whether a patent waiver on Covid-19 vaccines will ever come to
be.
>
> "I think we had the best hope of it last year when there was a
proposal that was put forward at the WTO and the Biden
administration had supported it," said Thirumurthy.
>
> "But we had European countries that objected to those patent
waivers."
>
> Watch the video to find out more about why vaccine patents
exist and the ongoing debate over their impact on the Covid
pandemic.
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