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#Post#: 4535--------------------------------------------------
China
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 1, 2021, 8:04 pm
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The false left argues about whether China is socialist or
capitalist. Is this because China is almost National Socialism?
I'll admit I'm not as well versed in Communist Party of China
politics as I should be but from what I understand, it is a
National socialism but hindered by China's hold to Marxism.
Aryans' thoughts?
#Post#: 4542--------------------------------------------------
Re: China
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 1, 2021, 9:41 pm
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"almost National Socialism?"
Not even close. Even at its best (Deng era), China never used
its autocracy with state control over reproduction to Aryanize
its gene pool, but merely used it to flatly reduce total
population with its One-Child Policy (which is what all
countries in the world that claims to care about the environment
had no excuse not to have implemented decades ago as soon as
they started claiming to care about the environment). Now it has
scrapped that too and replaced it with a Two-Child Policy, thus
literally throwing away its own biggest positive example to the
world.
(With that said, it is still ahead of most countries in the
world, which have neither autocracy nor state control over
reproduction at all.)
China also has no serious anti-Jewish policy:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/chinas-tiny-jewish-community-fear-181707679.html
--- Quote ---
> China’s tiny Jewish community in fear as Beijing erases its
history
> …
> Mr Xi’s suppression has hit China’s tiny congregation of Jews,
whose ancestors settled more than a millennium ago along the
Yellow River in Kaifeng, then the capital of the Northern Song
Dynasty.That such a small group can attract the Communist
Party’s ire shows how far the crackdown has spread. Only about
1,000 people in Kaifeng claim Jewish heritage, and of those,
only around 100 or are practising Jews, experts say – barely a
splash in China’s sea of 1.4 billion. Even at its peak in the
1500s, the community only numbered around 5,000.:
--- End Quote ---
Those 1000 should be prohibited from reproducing, and to err on
the side of caution, so should all traceable blood relatives of
theirs. But of course they are not. Instead:
--- Quote ---
> “It’s government policy – China doesn’t want to recognise us
as Jews,” one man, who dreams of training as a rabbi in Israel,
told the Telegraph. “Their goal is to make sure the next
generation doesn’t have any Jewish identity.”
--- End Quote ---
This is the wrong approach. If you have people with Jewish blood
who do not know they are Jews, they still carry the Jewish blood
(which they will keep spreading across the wider gene pool), and
henceforth it becomes harder to trace! It would be vastly
preferable for people with Jewish blood openly identify as Jews
for the sake of transparency. Then they can simply be prohibited
from reproducing. So long as they keep reproducing:
--- Quote ---
> At home, he teaches everything he knows to his child, just as
his forebears – most likely merchants from Persia – did for
generations.
>
> In that way, Kaifeng’s Jewish heritage survived dynasties,
wars, natural disasters and the Cultural Revolution, when many
destroyed genealogical records to hide their lineage. It has
also helped them manage without a rabbi for more than 150 years.
--- End Quote ---
Hence here are almost certainly still some crypto-Jews around on
top of the 1000 mentioned above.
--- Quote ---
> They are fighting to keep their history alive, even though
“asserting their desires to be connected with their Jewish
heritage falls afoul of the official [Chinese] position on
unauthorised religions,” said Anson Laytner, a retired rabbi and
president of the Sino-Judaic Institute.
> …
> Chinese authorities are also concerned about undue foreign
influence if the Kaifeng Jewish community is allowed to build
links with Jews abroad.
--- End Quote ---
They are correct to be concerned, yet it is extremely hard to be
sure that they are preventing such links from being built. But
so long as Jews are prohibited from reproducing, all the links
they build with Jews abroad will phase out within one
generational cycle. This is why the only effective solution is
to prohibit all Jews from reproducing. Nothing else will stop
them:
--- Quote ---
> In Kaifeng, stones engraved as far back as 1489 with the
community’s beliefs and ancestry have been removed from the spot
where they once marked a 12th-century synagogue.
>
> An ancient well, believed to be the synagogue’s last ruins,
has likewise vanished under a cloak of cement. The authorities
have also torn down the city’s few Hebrew signs that once marked
the Teaching Torah Lane.
>
> In that same lane, a spot where a few dozen Jews – some of
whom were government officials – used to meet for services is
now plastered in propaganda about China’s “management of
religious affairs.” They include reminders that Judaism is
prohibited. A security camera is directed at the entrance.
>
> A handful of schools that taught Hebrew and Judaism –
established by foreign Jews visiting Kaifeng – have been forced
to shutter. Exhibits in a museum and historic merchant guild
hall that documented the history of Jews in the city have also
disappeared in favour of large pictures of Mr Xi.
>
> The crackdown is so intense that Kaifeng residents are afraid
to dine together in public. “It’s a small place,” one Jewish man
said. “Restaurant managers know that we are the Jews, and they
will report us to the authorities.”
>
> Across the city, the remaining trace of Jewish heritage
appears to be two tombstones with the star of David and epitaphs
in Chinese and Hebrew – but even this, they fear, will soon be
gone.
>
> Yet the Jews in Kaifeng are remarkably resilient, and have
found ways to keep their faith alive underground.
>
> Each week, meetings are held in secret to celebrate Shabbat,
the Jewish day of rest. Many don’t eat pork, though keeping
fully kosher is risky and expensive. But for holidays, they pool
money for kosher meat and wine procured through a network of
friendly intermediaries.
>
> At home, residents decorate with photos of Israel, stars of
David and traditional Passover seder plates, and serve guests
tea in jars that used to hold yahrzeit candles lit in memory of
the dead.
>
> One man flung open a cabinet revealing a prayer shawl and a
collection of kippahs, a head-covering for men. Most proudly
pronounce Israel with a Hebrew accent.
>
> Unable to obtain religious materials, they buy Bibles and read
the Old Testament – more or less the same content as the Torah –
and disregard the New Testament.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 4553--------------------------------------------------
Re: China
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 2, 2021, 11:07 am
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
>
> "almost National Socialism?"
>
> Not even close. Even at its best (Deng era), China never used
its autocracy with state control over reproduction to Aryanize
its gene pool, but merely used it to flatly reduce total
population with its One-Child Policy (which is what all
countries in the world that claims to care about the environment
had no excuse not to have implemented decades ago as soon as
they started claiming to care about the environment). Now it has
scrapped that too and replaced it with a Two-Child Policy, thus
literally throwing away its own biggest positive example to the
world.
>
> (With that said, it is still ahead of most countries in the
world, which have neither autocracy nor state control over
reproduction at all.)
>
> China also has no serious anti-Jewish policy:
>
>
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/chinas-tiny-jewish-community-fear-181707679.html
>
> [quote]China’s tiny Jewish community in fear as Beijing erases
its history
> …
> Mr Xi’s suppression has hit China’s tiny congregation of Jews,
whose ancestors settled more than a millennium ago along the
Yellow River in Kaifeng, then the capital of the Northern Song
Dynasty.That such a small group can attract the Communist
Party’s ire shows how far the crackdown has spread. Only about
1,000 people in Kaifeng claim Jewish heritage, and of those,
only around 100 or are practising Jews, experts say – barely a
splash in China’s sea of 1.4 billion. Even at its peak in the
1500s, the community only numbered around 5,000.:
--- End Quote ---
Those 1000 should be prohibited from reproducing, and to err on
the side of caution, so should all traceable blood relatives of
theirs. But of course they are not. Instead:
--- Quote ---
> “It’s government policy – China doesn’t want to recognise us
as Jews,” one man, who dreams of training as a rabbi in Israel,
told the Telegraph. “Their goal is to make sure the next
generation doesn’t have any Jewish identity.”
--- End Quote ---
This is the wrong approach. If you have people with Jewish blood
who do not know they are Jews, they still carry the Jewish blood
(which they will keep spreading across the wider gene pool), and
henceforth it becomes harder to trace! It would be vastly
preferable for people with Jewish blood openly identify as Jews
for the sake of transparency. Then they can simply be prohibited
from reproducing. So long as they keep reproducing:
--- Quote ---
> At home, he teaches everything he knows to his child, just as
his forebears – most likely merchants from Persia – did for
generations.
>
> In that way, Kaifeng’s Jewish heritage survived dynasties,
wars, natural disasters and the Cultural Revolution, when many
destroyed genealogical records to hide their lineage. It has
also helped them manage without a rabbi for more than 150 years.
--- End Quote ---
Hence here are almost certainly still some crypto-Jews around on
top of the 1000 mentioned above.
--- Quote ---
> They are fighting to keep their history alive, even though
“asserting their desires to be connected with their Jewish
heritage falls afoul of the official [Chinese] position on
unauthorised religions,” said Anson Laytner, a retired rabbi and
president of the Sino-Judaic Institute.
> …
> Chinese authorities are also concerned about undue foreign
influence if the Kaifeng Jewish community is allowed to build
links with Jews abroad.
--- End Quote ---
They are correct to be concerned, yet it is extremely hard to be
sure that they are preventing such links from being built. But
so long as Jews are prohibited from reproducing, all the links
they build with Jews abroad will phase out within one
generational cycle. This is why the only effective solution is
to prohibit all Jews from reproducing. Nothing else will stop
them:
--- Quote ---
> In Kaifeng, stones engraved as far back as 1489 with the
community’s beliefs and ancestry have been removed from the spot
where they once marked a 12th-century synagogue.
>
> An ancient well, believed to be the synagogue’s last ruins,
has likewise vanished under a cloak of cement. The authorities
have also torn down the city’s few Hebrew signs that once marked
the Teaching Torah Lane.
>
> In that same lane, a spot where a few dozen Jews – some of
whom were government officials – used to meet for services is
now plastered in propaganda about China’s “management of
religious affairs.” They include reminders that Judaism is
prohibited. A security camera is directed at the entrance.
>
> A handful of schools that taught Hebrew and Judaism –
established by foreign Jews visiting Kaifeng – have been forced
to shutter. Exhibits in a museum and historic merchant guild
hall that documented the history of Jews in the city have also
disappeared in favour of large pictures of Mr Xi.
>
> The crackdown is so intense that Kaifeng residents are afraid
to dine together in public. “It’s a small place,” one Jewish man
said. “Restaurant managers know that we are the Jews, and they
will report us to the authorities.”
>
> Across the city, the remaining trace of Jewish heritage
appears to be two tombstones with the star of David and epitaphs
in Chinese and Hebrew – but even this, they fear, will soon be
gone.
>
> Yet the Jews in Kaifeng are remarkably resilient, and have
found ways to keep their faith alive underground.
>
> Each week, meetings are held in secret to celebrate Shabbat,
the Jewish day of rest. Many don’t eat pork, though keeping
fully kosher is risky and expensive. But for holidays, they pool
money for kosher meat and wine procured through a network of
friendly intermediaries.
>
> At home, residents decorate with photos of Israel, stars of
David and traditional Passover seder plates, and serve guests
tea in jars that used to hold yahrzeit candles lit in memory of
the dead.
>
> One man flung open a cabinet revealing a prayer shawl and a
collection of kippahs, a head-covering for men. Most proudly
pronounce Israel with a Hebrew accent.
>
> Unable to obtain religious materials, they buy Bibles and read
the Old Testament – more or less the same content as the Torah –
and disregard the New Testament.
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Better answer than I expected so soon.
Right now I agree the only possible solution to the Jewish
problem is to stop them from reproducing, but is it at all
possible to reform their entire tribal outlook? Of course this
does not mean keeping them in our countries. For example some
rastafari are similar to Judaism, but vegan, and universal. From
what you know about the jews do you think they could ever be
able to do something like that?
#Post#: 4555--------------------------------------------------
Re: China
DIR By: guest5
Date: March 2, 2021, 7:43 pm
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--- Quote ---
> From what you know about the jews do you think they could ever
be able to do something like that?
--- End Quote ---
I think without the Jewish tribe Jewish identity would cease to
exist and no one would have any reason to be Jewish anymore....
#Post#: 4569--------------------------------------------------
Re: China
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 3, 2021, 3:26 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
>
> "almost National Socialism?"
>
> Not even close. Even at its best (Deng era), China never used
its autocracy with state control over reproduction to Aryanize
its gene pool, but merely used it to flatly reduce total
population with its One-Child Policy (which is what all
countries in the world that claims to care about the environment
had no excuse not to have implemented decades ago as soon as
they started claiming to care about the environment). Now it has
scrapped that too and replaced it with a Two-Child Policy, thus
literally throwing away its own biggest positive example to the
world.
>
> (With that said, it is still ahead of most countries in the
world, which have neither autocracy nor state control over
reproduction at all.)
>
> China also has no serious anti-Jewish policy:
>
>
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/chinas-tiny-jewish-community-fear-181707679.html
>
> [quote]China’s tiny Jewish community in fear as Beijing erases
its history
> …
> Mr Xi’s suppression has hit China’s tiny congregation of Jews,
whose ancestors settled more than a millennium ago along the
Yellow River in Kaifeng, then the capital of the Northern Song
Dynasty.That such a small group can attract the Communist
Party’s ire shows how far the crackdown has spread. Only about
1,000 people in Kaifeng claim Jewish heritage, and of those,
only around 100 or are practising Jews, experts say – barely a
splash in China’s sea of 1.4 billion. Even at its peak in the
1500s, the community only numbered around 5,000.:
--- End Quote ---
Those 1000 should be prohibited from reproducing, and to err on
the side of caution, so should all traceable blood relatives of
theirs. But of course they are not. Instead:
--- Quote ---
> “It’s government policy – China doesn’t want to recognise us
as Jews,” one man, who dreams of training as a rabbi in Israel,
told the Telegraph. “Their goal is to make sure the next
generation doesn’t have any Jewish identity.”
--- End Quote ---
This is the wrong approach. If you have people with Jewish blood
who do not know they are Jews, they still carry the Jewish blood
(which they will keep spreading across the wider gene pool), and
henceforth it becomes harder to trace! It would be vastly
preferable for people with Jewish blood openly identify as Jews
for the sake of transparency. Then they can simply be prohibited
from reproducing. So long as they keep reproducing:
--- Quote ---
> At home, he teaches everything he knows to his child, just as
his forebears – most likely merchants from Persia – did for
generations.
>
> In that way, Kaifeng’s Jewish heritage survived dynasties,
wars, natural disasters and the Cultural Revolution, when many
destroyed genealogical records to hide their lineage. It has
also helped them manage without a rabbi for more than 150 years.
--- End Quote ---
Hence here are almost certainly still some crypto-Jews around on
top of the 1000 mentioned above.
--- Quote ---
> They are fighting to keep their history alive, even though
“asserting their desires to be connected with their Jewish
heritage falls afoul of the official [Chinese] position on
unauthorised religions,” said Anson Laytner, a retired rabbi and
president of the Sino-Judaic Institute.
> …
> Chinese authorities are also concerned about undue foreign
influence if the Kaifeng Jewish community is allowed to build
links with Jews abroad.
--- End Quote ---
They are correct to be concerned, yet it is extremely hard to be
sure that they are preventing such links from being built. But
so long as Jews are prohibited from reproducing, all the links
they build with Jews abroad will phase out within one
generational cycle. This is why the only effective solution is
to prohibit all Jews from reproducing. Nothing else will stop
them:
--- Quote ---
> In Kaifeng, stones engraved as far back as 1489 with the
community’s beliefs and ancestry have been removed from the spot
where they once marked a 12th-century synagogue.
>
> An ancient well, believed to be the synagogue’s last ruins,
has likewise vanished under a cloak of cement. The authorities
have also torn down the city’s few Hebrew signs that once marked
the Teaching Torah Lane.
>
> In that same lane, a spot where a few dozen Jews – some of
whom were government officials – used to meet for services is
now plastered in propaganda about China’s “management of
religious affairs.” They include reminders that Judaism is
prohibited. A security camera is directed at the entrance.
>
> A handful of schools that taught Hebrew and Judaism –
established by foreign Jews visiting Kaifeng – have been forced
to shutter. Exhibits in a museum and historic merchant guild
hall that documented the history of Jews in the city have also
disappeared in favour of large pictures of Mr Xi.
>
> The crackdown is so intense that Kaifeng residents are afraid
to dine together in public. “It’s a small place,” one Jewish man
said. “Restaurant managers know that we are the Jews, and they
will report us to the authorities.”
>
> Across the city, the remaining trace of Jewish heritage
appears to be two tombstones with the star of David and epitaphs
in Chinese and Hebrew – but even this, they fear, will soon be
gone.
>
> Yet the Jews in Kaifeng are remarkably resilient, and have
found ways to keep their faith alive underground.
>
> Each week, meetings are held in secret to celebrate Shabbat,
the Jewish day of rest. Many don’t eat pork, though keeping
fully kosher is risky and expensive. But for holidays, they pool
money for kosher meat and wine procured through a network of
friendly intermediaries.
>
> At home, residents decorate with photos of Israel, stars of
David and traditional Passover seder plates, and serve guests
tea in jars that used to hold yahrzeit candles lit in memory of
the dead.
>
> One man flung open a cabinet revealing a prayer shawl and a
collection of kippahs, a head-covering for men. Most proudly
pronounce Israel with a Hebrew accent.
>
> Unable to obtain religious materials, they buy Bibles and read
the Old Testament – more or less the same content as the Torah –
and disregard the New Testament.
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Here you talk about Aryanizing a gene pool, with the main site
down is there anywhere I can read about this?
Also is their any sites affiliated with Aryanism like Sword of
Elysium that I can read while it is being updated?
#Post#: 4589--------------------------------------------------
Re: China
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 3, 2021, 10:15 pm
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