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#Post#: 4422--------------------------------------------------
Danzz
DIR By: Danzz
Date: February 23, 2021, 12:20 pm
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I would like to know what is the opinion about Anti-Dugin white
Nationalist ?
#Post#: 4449--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 24, 2021, 9:34 pm
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They are still our enemies, same as anti-Israel WNs. There is
also no guarantee that they will not become pro-Duginist later
(just as we have seen many WNs become pro-Israel over the
years).
WNs who claim to be "anti-Duginist" actually merely mean they
consider Duginism threatening to "white" tribal interests. If
Duginism ceases to be threatening to "white" tribal interests in
their perception (which Duginists can control by modifying their
policies so as to be more obviously beneficial to "white" tribal
interests), they will stop being "anti-Duginist", which means
they were never truly (unconditionally) anti-Duginist in the
first place.
As I keep saying, WNs' fundamental motivation is "white" tribal
interests. One who is pro-something can never be unconditionally
anti-anything. This is a fundamental principle of selfish
psychology. Only those who do not think in terms of
self-interest can have true enemies.
#Post#: 4459--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: Danzz
Date: February 25, 2021, 4:31 am
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So what's the difference between International Socislism and
National Socialism? What's the main purpose of having Nations?.
They are only there for division?.
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Re: Danzz
DIR By: guest5
Date: February 25, 2021, 8:54 pm
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--- Quote ---
> So what's the difference between International Socislism and
National Socialism? What's the main purpose of having Nations?.
They are only there for division?.
--- End Quote ---
"International Socialism" would be no different than
"International Capitalism" if it does not take into account that
each nation is like an individual being and that 'one size does
not fit all'. I see the main purpose of nations as the container
that houses the folk, or people of that nation. What works for a
folkish state in present day Mexico probably would not work for
a folkish state in Sweden, for example. The Swedish folk and the
Mexican folk probably have many different ideals and needs that
are unique to their geography and environment. This is true
Folkish National Socialism in a nut-shell. To believe that what
works in Sweden should also work in Mexico is what communists,
capitalists, and westerners more generally believe. Also, keep
in mind Western colonialism is the belief that Swedish culture
is superior to Mexican culture, therefore Sweden should force
it's culture on Mexico and completely destroy Mexican culture
altogether.
The best way to understand borders between nations is to simply
realize that one set of laws applies on one side of the border,
those laws being unique to the folk that live in that particular
nation and on that side of the border, and a different set of
laws apply on the other side of the border which are unique to
the folk that live there.
Tribalism equals division, not true nationalism. I see
nationalism as a step in the right direction away from
tribalism:
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Re: Danzz
DIR By: Danzz
Date: February 26, 2021, 8:05 am
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--- Quote from: NuminousSun link ---
>
> [quote]So what's the difference between International
Socislism and National Socialism? What's the main purpose of
having Nations?. They are only there for division?.
--- End Quote ---
"International Socialism" would be no different than
"International Capitalism" if it does not take into account that
each nation is like an individual being and that 'one size does
not fit all'. I see the main purpose of nations as the container
that houses the folk, or people of that nation. What works for a
folkish state in present day Mexico probably would not work for
a folkish state in Sweden, for example. The Swedish folk and the
Mexican folk probably have many different ideals and needs that
are unique to their geography and environment. This is true
Folkish National Socialism in a nut-shell. To believe that what
works in Sweden should also work in Mexico is what communists,
capitalists, and westerners more generally believe. Also, keep
in mind Western colonialism is the belief that Swedish culture
is superior to Mexican culture, therefore Sweden should force
it's culture on Mexico and completely destroy Mexican culture
altogether.
The best way to understand borders between nations is to simply
realize that one set of laws applies on one side of the border,
those laws being unique to the folk that live in that particular
nation and on that side of the border, and a different set of
laws apply on the other side of the border which are unique to
the folk that live there.
Tribalism equals division, not true nationalism. I see
nationalism as a step in the right direction away from
tribalism:
HTML https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-human-nature-as-manifested-in-tribalism-and-nationalism-provides-the-momentum-of-the-arthur-keith-125-36-65.jpg
HTML http://www.morefamousquotes.com/images/topics/20170913/quotes-about-tribalism-2.jpg
HTML http://img.picturequotes.com/2/153/152142/tribalism-is-the-most-powerful-force-in-the-world-quote-1.jpg
[/quote]
""International Socialism" would be no different than
"International Capitalism" if it does not take into account that
each nation is like an individual being and that 'one size does
not fit all'. I see the main purpose of nations as the container
that houses the folk, or people of that nation. What works for a
folkish state in present day Mexico probably would not work for
a folkish state in Sweden, for example. The Swedish folk and the
Mexican folk probably have many different ideals and needs that
are unique to their geography and environment. "
In another threat you said Racialism was born out of Idealism.
So you do believe that Race exist? For example Chinese have
higher IQ on average and their states works in the way that THEY
form it? Correct me If I'm wrong.
I do believe that each nation should live peacefully side by
side I do not like the concept that we should cause divisions in
other nations I also believe that if you really care about
preserving Race you shouldn't support wars because that itself
will create a wave of immigrants into the nation you live in and
the result of that is mixing. I do believe that many WN destroy
the image of Racialism and Nationalism because most of the
representative only yell "Fuck N*****", "White power" and have
Tattoos all over the Face but at the same time I dont agree with
lefties that Internationalism is good and Nationalism is bad.
can you relate to some of it?
#Post#: 4484--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: guest5
Date: February 26, 2021, 8:23 pm
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--- Quote ---
> In another threat you said Racialism was born out of Idealism.
So you do believe that Race exist? For example Chinese have
higher IQ on average and their states works in the way that THEY
form it? Correct me If I'm wrong.
--- End Quote ---
Scientifically speaking I do not believe races exist, only
ideologically. Like Hitler himself I believe 'race' can be used
to create a new type of human. I believe there are only three
races: Aryan, Gentile, and Jew.
'Chinese' is an ethnicity and a nationality. Anyone who wants to
become Chinese can move to China and become a Chinese citizen
and I do not see any "IQ" requirements in the Chinese
Nationality Laws, so I'm not sure what your question is about in
that regard?
--- Quote ---
> Article 7 of the Nationality Law states that foreigners who
will abide by the Chinese Constitution and laws can apply to be
naturalized as Chinese citizens if they meet one of the
following conditions: they have close relatives who are Chinese
nationals, they have settled in China, or if they have other
legitimate reasons. Article 8 describes how a person can apply
for naturalization as a Chinese national, but will lose their
foreign nationality on the approval of the application.
HTML https://www.thoughtco.com/chinese-citizenship-explained-688071
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> I do believe that each nation should live peacefully side by
side I do not like the concept that we should cause divisions in
other nations I also believe that if you really care about
preserving Race you shouldn't support wars because that itself
will create a wave of immigrants into the nation you live in and
the result of that is mixing. I do believe that many WN destroy
the image of Racialism and Nationalism because most of the
representative only yell "**** N*****", "White power" and have
Tattoos all over the Face but at the same time I dont agree with
lefties that Internationalism is good and Nationalism is bad.
can you relate to some of it?
--- End Quote ---
Much like the Chinese I do not see a problem with immigration.
Nor do I see a problem with 'war' if the cause is just, such as
retaliatory strikes. I do have a problem with race mixing,
Aryans should never mix their blood with gentiles or Jews, for
example. But alas, it's already way too late for that! There are
no pure races left, as Alfred Rosenberg pointed out in the
following point of his:
--- Quote ---
> If one wished to describe the history of the Aryans, he would
have to admit that today the Aryan has vanished except for a few
very small traces. — Alfred Rosenberg
--- End Quote ---
Because as Hitler put it Aryans mixed their blood with
non-Aryans, i.e. Jews and Gentiles:
--- Quote ---
> But eventually, the conquerors violate the first principle,
keeping their blood pure and not mixing with lower racial stock.
They begin to interact with the conquered inhabitants and in
doing so, put an end to their own existence. Even for the
original sin of man, the penalty was expulsion from Paradise. —
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg. 192
--- End Quote ---
Which happens to be one of the main reasons the world today is
in the shape that it's in....
#Post#: 4490--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: Danzz
Date: February 26, 2021, 10:13 pm
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--- Quote ---
> IScientifically speaking I do not believe races exist, only
ideologically. Like Hitler himself I believe 'race' can be used
to create a new type of human. I believe there are only three
races: Aryan, Gentile, and Jew.
>
>
> 'Chinese' is an ethnicity and a nationality. Anyone who wants
to become Chinese can move to China and become a Chinese citizen
and I do not see any "IQ" requirements in the Chinese
Nationality Laws, so I'm not sure what your question is about in
that regard?
--- End Quote ---
But Hitler himself believed there was a German Race?. Only
people create culture and civilisations and that is a product of
a Race!.
[quote]Much like the Chinese I do not see a problem with
immigration. Nor do I see a problem with 'war' if the cause is
just, such as retaliatory strikes.[/Quote]
I believe that the last war for humanity should be against
Israel which is the root of all the problems in the world and
should be wiped out and I believe that the only way we can do
this is by welcoming immigrants because there must be a reason
why they come here? as I said before war creates immigrants and
it serves only International capitalists because there is profit
in wars and immigration too Right?
#Post#: 4503--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: guest5
Date: February 27, 2021, 6:04 pm
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--- Quote ---
> But Hitler himself believed there was a German Race?. Only
people create culture and civilisations and that is a product of
a Race!
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.dw.com/image/36897679_101.jpg
When Hitler speaks of the "German Race" he most likely is
referring to the German people. This only adds confusion. I wish
Hitler would have been more precise on this topic.
Who are the German People\Volke?
The confusion continues to this day:
--- Quote ---
> “Race” is usually associated with biology and linked with
physical characteristics such as skin color or hair texture.
“Ethnicity” is linked with cultural expression and
identification. However, both are social constructs used to
categorize and characterize seemingly distinct populations.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/race-ethnicity
I could argue that the definition of "race" and "ethnicity" as
written above are actually backwards....
Clearly National Socialist Germans did not view people who had
pale-skin such as themselves as members of the 'German people'
either:
--- Quote ---
> We back home would be bad stewards of the goods entrusted to
us if we let the foreigners settle in here.
>
> According to our regulations, all foreigners in the Reich
today are governed by the state and the party. The German Reich
guarantees that they receive decent and correct treatment. Those
individuals who come to the Reich also fall under these
regulations, regardless of how nice and friendly they are. Our
soldiers are also nice and friendly and decent and hard-working,
but if they have the misfortune to fall into the enemy’s hands
they are under the laws of war. All their decency and
friendliness are of no help whatsoever, as the First World War
showed (and we should not forget that so quickly). Nor do we
want to forget the men who fell into the hands of the Poles of
the Soviets.
>
> don’t be angry at me, but it seems clear to me that you and
your wife want to sit at the same table with a White Russian....
Haven’t we Germans learned anything from the years we suffered?
The position we hold today has been won by the bravery of our
soldiers. Do you think that if our positions were reversed and
we stood in a dependent position before a Frenchman, a Serb, an
Englishman, a Norwegian (as they do before us today), that they
would sit at the same table with us? No matter how decent a
person you were, you would first and foremost be a German, and
they would not sit at the same table with you! And don’t tell me
that you are a National Socialist, and therefore... Because you
are a Nazi, you should know what you owe the Fatherland with
respect to foreigners. As a German I don’t need a whip, only my
pride.
>
> The war is raging on every front and countless men risk their
lives for us every day, yet we are becoming soft toward those
who robbed us of peace! We are confusing our youth in the midst
of challenging times, a youth that will inherit what their
fathers have fought for. We do not want to plant hatred in the
souls of our children — certainly not — but they do need the
knowledge and the toughness that are necessary to build a
thousand-year Reich. Otherwise, why shed so much German blood,
why should mothers sacrifice their sons, wives their husbands,
children their fathers — for this struggle would then lose its
meaning.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/russian.htm
--- Quote ---
> I believe that the last war for humanity should be against
Israel which is the root of all the problems in the world
--- End Quote ---
Hypothetically speaking, say the world does defeat Israel, what
about all the Gentiles\Turanian bloodlines that will still exist
after Jewry is vanquished? From the Aryan perspective Gentiles
are no different than Jews except for the fact that they are not
Jewish.
--- Quote ---
> I said before war creates immigrants and it serves only
International capitalists because there is profit in wars and
immigration too Right?
--- End Quote ---
I don't think most mercenary soldiers throughout human history
can be classified as "international capitalists"....?
#Post#: 4536--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 1, 2021, 8:27 pm
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--- Quote from: NuminousSun link ---
>
> [quote]In another threat you said Racialism was born out of
Idealism. So you do believe that Race exist? For example Chinese
have higher IQ on average and their states works in the way that
THEY form it? Correct me If I'm wrong.
--- End Quote ---
Scientifically speaking I do not believe races exist, only
ideologically. Like Hitler himself I believe 'race' can be used
to create a new type of human. I believe there are only three
races: Aryan, Gentile, and Jew.
'Chinese' is an ethnicity and a nationality. Anyone who wants to
become Chinese can move to China and become a Chinese citizen
and I do not see any "IQ" requirements in the Chinese
Nationality Laws, so I'm not sure what your question is about in
that regard?
--- Quote ---
> Article 7 of the Nationality Law states that foreigners who
will abide by the Chinese Constitution and laws can apply to be
naturalized as Chinese citizens if they meet one of the
following conditions: they have close relatives who are Chinese
nationals, they have settled in China, or if they have other
legitimate reasons. Article 8 describes how a person can apply
for naturalization as a Chinese national, but will lose their
foreign nationality on the approval of the application.
HTML https://www.thoughtco.com/chinese-citizenship-explained-688071
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote ---
> I do believe that each nation should live peacefully side by
side I do not like the concept that we should cause divisions in
other nations I also believe that if you really care about
preserving Race you shouldn't support wars because that itself
will create a wave of immigrants into the nation you live in and
the result of that is mixing. I do believe that many WN destroy
the image of Racialism and Nationalism because most of the
representative only yell "**** N*****", "White power" and have
Tattoos all over the Face but at the same time I dont agree with
lefties that Internationalism is good and Nationalism is bad.
can you relate to some of it?
--- End Quote ---
Much like the Chinese I do not see a problem with immigration.
Nor do I see a problem with 'war' if the cause is just, such as
retaliatory strikes. I do have a problem with race mixing,
Aryans should never mix their blood with gentiles or Jews, for
example. But alas, it's already way too late for that! There are
no pure races left, as Alfred Rosenberg pointed out in the
following point of his:
--- Quote ---
> If one wished to describe the history of the Aryans, he would
have to admit that today the Aryan has vanished except for a few
very small traces. — Alfred Rosenberg
--- End Quote ---
Because as Hitler put it Aryans mixed their blood with
non-Aryans, i.e. Jews and Gentiles:
--- Quote ---
> But eventually, the conquerors violate the first principle,
keeping their blood pure and not mixing with lower racial stock.
They begin to interact with the conquered inhabitants and in
doing so, put an end to their own existence. Even for the
original sin of man, the penalty was expulsion from Paradise. —
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg. 192
--- End Quote ---
Which happens to be one of the main reasons the world today is
in the shape that it's in....
[/quote]
#Post#: 4537--------------------------------------------------
Re: Danzz
DIR By: Cthens
Date: March 1, 2021, 8:29 pm
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--- Quote from: NuminousSun link ---
>
> [quote]But Hitler himself believed there was a German Race?.
Only people create culture and civilisations and that is a
product of a Race!
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.dw.com/image/36897679_101.jpg
When Hitler speaks of the "German Race" he most likely is
referring to the German people. This only adds confusion. I wish
Hitler would have been more precise on this topic.
Who are the German People\Volke?
The confusion continues to this day:
--- Quote ---
> “Race” is usually associated with biology and linked with
physical characteristics such as skin color or hair texture.
“Ethnicity” is linked with cultural expression and
identification. However, both are social constructs used to
categorize and characterize seemingly distinct populations.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/race-ethnicity
I could argue that the definition of "race" and "ethnicity" as
written above are actually backwards....
Clearly National Socialist Germans did not view people who had
pale-skin such as themselves as members of the 'German people'
either:
--- Quote ---
> We back home would be bad stewards of the goods entrusted to
us if we let the foreigners settle in here.
>
> According to our regulations, all foreigners in the Reich
today are governed by the state and the party. The German Reich
guarantees that they receive decent and correct treatment. Those
individuals who come to the Reich also fall under these
regulations, regardless of how nice and friendly they are. Our
soldiers are also nice and friendly and decent and hard-working,
but if they have the misfortune to fall into the enemy’s hands
they are under the laws of war. All their decency and
friendliness are of no help whatsoever, as the First World War
showed (and we should not forget that so quickly). Nor do we
want to forget the men who fell into the hands of the Poles of
the Soviets.
>
> don’t be angry at me, but it seems clear to me that you and
your wife want to sit at the same table with a White Russian....
Haven’t we Germans learned anything from the years we suffered?
The position we hold today has been won by the bravery of our
soldiers. Do you think that if our positions were reversed and
we stood in a dependent position before a Frenchman, a Serb, an
Englishman, a Norwegian (as they do before us today), that they
would sit at the same table with us? No matter how decent a
person you were, you would first and foremost be a German, and
they would not sit at the same table with you! And don’t tell me
that you are a National Socialist, and therefore... Because you
are a Nazi, you should know what you owe the Fatherland with
respect to foreigners. As a German I don’t need a whip, only my
pride.
>
> The war is raging on every front and countless men risk their
lives for us every day, yet we are becoming soft toward those
who robbed us of peace! We are confusing our youth in the midst
of challenging times, a youth that will inherit what their
fathers have fought for. We do not want to plant hatred in the
souls of our children — certainly not — but they do need the
knowledge and the toughness that are necessary to build a
thousand-year Reich. Otherwise, why shed so much German blood,
why should mothers sacrifice their sons, wives their husbands,
children their fathers — for this struggle would then lose its
meaning.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/russian.htm
--- Quote ---
> I believe that the last war for humanity should be against
Israel which is the root of all the problems in the world
--- End Quote ---
Hypothetically speaking, say the world does defeat Israel, what
about all the Gentiles\Turanian bloodlines that will still exist
after Jewry is vanquished? From the Aryan perspective Gentiles
are no different than Jews except for the fact that they are not
Jewish.
--- Quote ---
> I said before war creates immigrants and it serves only
International capitalists because there is profit in wars and
immigration too Right?
--- End Quote ---
I don't think most mercenary soldiers throughout human history
can be classified as "international capitalists"....?
[/quote]
Very well! America to would do well to learn this.
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