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       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: March 22, 2022, 12:46 am
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       > if America and China cooperate, Russia has absolutely no
       choice but to join.
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       What if America and China do not let Russia join?
       "If the enemy had been Russia instead of communism, we could
       have avoided the interventions against non-Western countries
       such as Vietnam during the Cold War as well…"
       And instead, we could have done some interventions against
       Western countries, one in particular:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_and_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict
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       > On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared
       independence, the Soviet Union legally recognized it de jure,
       becoming the first country to grant de jure recognition to the
       Jewish state.[5][6] In addition to the diplomatic support, arms
       from Czechoslovakia, part of the Soviet bloc, were crucial to
       Israel in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.
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  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations#After_end_of_Soviet_Union
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       > Relations between Israel and Russia were improved by Israeli
       opposition to the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,[18]
       > ...
       > Vladimir Zhirinovsky visiting as part of a government
       delegation said that he was concerned particularly about the
       economic situation for the more than one million Russians living
       in Israel, and that "Russia will never allow any kind of
       violence against Israel".[21][22]
       > ...
       > In 2011, Putin said: "Israel is, in fact, a special state to
       us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one
       of the few foreign countries that can be called
       Russian-speaking. It's apparent that more than half of the
       population speaks Russian".[28] Putin additionally claimed that
       Israel could be considered part of the Russian cultural world,
       and contended that "songs which are considered to be national
       Israeli songs in Israel are in fact Russian national songs". He
       further stated that he regarded Russian-speaking Israeli
       citizens as his compatriots and part of the 'Russian world'.[29]
       >
       > In April 2014, Israel took a neutral stance on the Russian
       annexation of Crimea at the United Nations, angering U.S. State
       Department and White House officials.[30] During Operation
       Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that "I support Israel's
       battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected".[31]
       > ...
       > Relations between Israel and Russia further improved after the
       Russian military intervention in Syria in September 2015. From
       then until July 2018, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
       and Putin met a total of 9 times.[33] In October 2015, Israel
       and Russia held meetings to coordinate over Syria, and avoid
       accidentally clashing or scrambling each other's communications
       while operating over the country.[34][35]
       >
       > In March 2016, Putin said the relations with Israel were
       special and based "on friendship, mutual understanding and the
       long common history". Putin stated: "Russia and Israel have
       developed a special relationship. 1.5 million Israeli citizens
       come from the former Soviet Union, they speak the Russian
       language, are the bearers of Russian culture, Russian mentality.
       They maintain relations with their relatives and friends in
       Russia, and this make the interstate relations very
       special".[36] In a meeting with Netanyahu in June 2016, Putin
       described Israel and Russia as "unconditional allies" in
       "efforts to counter international terrorism".[37]
       >
       > Prior to and immediately after the 2016 United States
       presidential election, Israel began lobbying the United States
       to strike a deal with Russia over restricting the Iranian
       military presence in Syria in exchange for removing sanctions
       over Russian military action in Ukraine.[38] Donald Trump was
       reportedly a favorite candidate for both Russia and Israel, as
       Trump is widely seen, by both, as a strong supporter for Israel
       yet friendly to Russia.[39] Both Israel and Russia are still
       being accused for meddling in 2016 U.S. Election on helping
       Trump to power, with Vladimir Putin is found to have exclusive
       influence on Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump's political
       decisions in Israel and the United States.[40]
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       Israel is a clear enemy of NATO. Indeed, every NATO country
       should have invaded Israel after the USS Liberty incident.
       #Post#: 12210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: March 22, 2022, 8:30 pm
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       Brzezinski died in 2017.
       Sullivan is not too far removed from Brzenzinski's position,
       however:
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       > This led to a discussion about China, which Sullivan said
       would have to be part of any strategy to increase pressure on
       North Korea. “I believe in the possibility that the U.S. and
       China can cooperate on North Korea,” Sullivan said. “I don’t
       think we’re there yet. This has to be one of the first and most
       important pieces of business in the first summit between the
       next president and [Chinese leader] Xi Jinping." More generally,
       said Sullivan, the U.S. and China have the werewithal, with
       responsible stewardship, to build a constructive relationship
       beyond the day-to-day tensions. Sullivan said China has "not
       fully lived up to its responsibilities as a world power," but
       added that he remains optimistic that the U.S.-China
       relationship would improve. “A strong, thriving China that is
       playing by the rules is very much in the interests of the U.S.”
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       > Nowhere is that more apparent than in the Middle East, which
       in recent years has endured collapsing state structures and the
       rise of jihadist groups, most notably the Islamic State. Some
       Republican leaders have blamed the Obama Administration for
       abandoning the region; some Democrats have suggested the U.S. is
       still too inclined to intervene; the 2011 intervention in Libya
       and Washington’s inability to stop the strife in Syria have come
       in for criticism by both sides. On the Asia Society stage,
       Sullivan argued for the imposition of safe zones in Syria,
       provided and protected by the U.S., to safeguard refugees and
       help in the delivery of humanitarian aid. He also said that for
       all their differences, there was no solution that didn’t involve
       the U.S. and Russia working together. As for Trump’s policy
       prescriptions for the Middle East, Sullivan said these were
       particularly hard to decipher, beyond his much-discussed
       proposal to ban Muslim immigration. Trump has argued against
       U.S. intervention, then called for a U.S. deployment of 30,000
       soldiers to fight ISIS; he has suggested that Syria and ISIS
       “fight it out”, but also that we should “let Russia fight ISIS”;
       he has said he would tear up the nuclear deal with Iran, and
       then that he would keep it in place but “police” it more
       effectively.
       >
       > Sullivan checked off what he called “three deeply
       interconnected trends” in the Middle East: The collapse of state
       structures, a virulent form of Islamic fundamentalism, and the
       geopolitical struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. “The U.S.
       must grapple with all three crises at the same time; solving the
       third, however, can help with the first two … Any outcome must
       involve a modus vivendi between Saudi Arabia and Iran”.
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  HTML https://asiasociety.org/jake-sullivan-asia
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       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: rp
       Date: March 22, 2022, 8:58 pm
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       "White" (incl. Jewish) "Asia" experts are arrogant dickheads.
       #Post#: 12219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Duginism
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: March 22, 2022, 9:43 pm
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       Putin's Anti-NATO Rampage Backfires As Neutral Countries Look
       For Protection
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       > Heather Conley, president of the German Marshall Fund, talks
       about how Russian belligerence has made its non-NATO neighbors
       nervous that they could be next after Ukraine, driving them
       toward NATO even as Vladimir Putin tries to blame his invasion
       of Ukraine on NATO expansion.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzShltmny3Q
       
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       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: March 23, 2022, 12:53 am
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       NATO holds massive military exercise in the arctic amid Ukraine
       invasion
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       > NATO is holding its largest military exercise in the Arctic
       since the Cold War. NBC News’ Courtney Kube reports from Norway
       where U.S. Marines are joining around 30,000 troops from more
       than two dozen countries for land, air and sea drills.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmXAfTRAbs
       #Post#: 12234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: March 23, 2022, 9:11 pm
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       Pres. Biden Faces The 'Challenge Of A Generation' In Meeting
       With NATO Allies
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       > New York Times chief White House correspondent Peter Baker and
       retired Marine Colonel Brendan Kearney discuss President Biden’s
       efforts at the NATO summit this week to keep allies on the same
       page in support for Ukraine.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHxV0CpXjSY
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       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: March 26, 2022, 9:36 pm
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       Be Not Afraid
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       > Be not afraid.
       >
       > Under President Biden's steadfast leadership, we will remain
       united.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xja-Yy8g5eM
       Westerners better hope Trump doesn't get re-elected with all
       this 'democracy is the greatest form of government ever created'
       hype at every turn!
       #Post#: 12307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: China and United States Relations
   DIR By: Zhang Caizhi
       Date: March 27, 2022, 5:43 am
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       On Facebook "Wang Wenbin Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeperson":
  HTML https://www.facebook.com/100102505138202/posts/447695367045579
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       > On March 23, 1999 at 22:17, #NATO Secretary-General announced
       the "initiation of air operations in the Federal Republic of
       #Yugoslavia."
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       #Post#: 12416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: April 1, 2022, 12:16 pm
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       All of Europe's Overlapping Security Alliances Explained - TLDR
       News
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       > Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, there's been a lot of talk
       about NATO - the continent's preeminent security alliance.
       However, NATO is far from the only military alliance on the
       continent, so in this video we run through some of the biggest
       and most interesting.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLmcYkjwL9w
       #Post#: 12541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 6, 2022, 8:41 pm
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       NATO must invade Russia ASAP!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lhjv37aSQs
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