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Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest5 Date: July 10, 2020, 7:52 pm
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CrossTalk on Atlantic Alliance: Drifting Apart
[quote]The Atlantic Alliance - the bedrock of the post-World War
Two global security order – is slowly but surely unraveling.
More and more often Washington and Brussels diverge on important
foreign policy issues. Today, Europe has a choice: to defend its
interests or fade into oblivion.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTTmjR5SWlk
Merkel looks east as ties fray between Germany and U.S.
[quote]Berlin aims to reenergize commercial links with Beijing
amid the coronavirus crisis.[/quote]
HTML https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/07/germany-china-trade-coronavirus-us-351922
Merkel is under pressure to cut Germany's ties with China as the
Hong Kong crisis triggers a European backlash against Beijing
[quote]Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel has come under heavy
criticism from her own party and opposition politicians who say
she is not taking a tough enough line on China.[/quote]
HTML https://www.businessinsider.com/german-chancellor-angela-merkel-accused-too-close-to-china-2020-7
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest5 Date: July 10, 2020, 7:56 pm
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What exactly is the West 'winning'?
[quote]Transatlantic relations are not what they were. Neither
is the relationship between France and Germany. European leaders
are concerned by U.S. president Donald Trump's America First
policy. They've differed with him in several areas, from Iran to
China. This was reflected during the annual Munich Security
Conference. Divisions arose between leaders as they discussed
whether the West is losing influence -- to other global powers.
The answer from the U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, was
'everything is just fine'. Pompeo boasted the 'West is winning'
and the transatlantic alliance is not dead. He rejected remarks
by Germany's President who warned that the United States is
putting its own interests first, at the expense of its allies.
But is the U.S. stance on global politics really that positive
for western powers? Or is it undermining their alliance?[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOXIL2QP3P8
The West is Winning: Secretary Pompeo Remarks at the Munich
Security Conference
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70ttrNYiF4
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest5 Date: July 10, 2020, 8:11 pm
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German Chancellor Merkel urges European countries to cooperate
with China
[quote]German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been pushing for a
major investment agreement with China. She is urging other
European countries to make this a priority and achieve
"ambitious" deals with China.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoDcCVi387Y
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 19, 2020, 11:21 pm
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HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/german-states-appeal-u-congress-171345550.html
[quote]BERLIN (Reuters) - The premiers of four German states
have appealed to members of the U.S. Congress to block plans to
withdraw U.S. troops from Germany, according to letters seen by
Reuters on Sunday.
President Donald Trump said last month he would cut the number
of U.S. troops in Germany by 9,500 to 25,000, faulting the
fellow NATO member for failing to meet the North Atlantic
alliance's defence spending target and accusing it of taking
advantage of America on trade.
The prime ministers of the four southern states, all home to
U.S. bases, addressed the letters to 13 members of Congress
including senators Mitt Romney and Jim Inhofe.
"We therefore ask you to support us as we strive not to sever
the bond of friendship but to strengthen it, and to secure the
U.S. presence in Germany and Europe in the future," wrote the
premiers of Bavaria, Hesse, Baden-Wuerttemberg and
Rhineland-Palatinate.
A spokesman for the U.S. embassy in Berlin declined to comment.
Last month, Washington said the move would "enhance Russian
deterrence, strengthen NATO, reassure Allies".
But the premiers wrote that the U.S. forces in their states
"form the backbone of the U.S. presence in Europe and NATO's
ability to act".[/quote]
I support this. Germany should show that closer ties with China
does not necessarily imply distancing from the US. Ultimately,
this could pull China and the US closer together.
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 27, 2020, 4:15 am
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At least Germany still has some standards:
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/germany-rejects-trumps-proposal-let-220412360.html
[quote]BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has rejected a proposal by
U.S. President Donald Trump to invite Russian President Vladimir
Putin back into the Group of Seven (G7) most advanced economies,
German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said in a newspaper interview
published on Monday.
Trump raised the prospect last month of expanding the G7 to
again include Russia, which had been expelled in 2014 following
Moscow's annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region.
But Maas told Rheinische Post that he did not see any chance for
allowing Russia back into the G7 as long as there was no
meaningful progress in solving the conflict in Crimea as well as
in eastern Ukraine.
Russia itself could make the biggest contribution to becoming
part of the G7 format again by contributing to a peaceful
solution in the Ukraine conflict, Maas said.[/quote]
With that said, why should we want Russia back in at all?
Letting Russia back in just increases its influence which will
then be used to further break apart the alliances between other
countries as per the Duginist plan. The correct discussion to
have should be about which country could replace Russia in the
group.
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Germany
By: guest5 Date: August 14, 2020, 6:59 pm
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Trump approves plan to withdraw 9,500 U.S. forces from Germany
[quote]President Donald Trump has selected an option for
withdrawing U.S. military personnel from Germany and redeploying
those forces elsewhere, the Pentagon announced Tuesday
night.[/quote]
HTML https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/trump-approves-plan-to-withdraw-9500-us-forces-from-germany.html
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Re: Germany
By: guest5 Date: August 14, 2020, 7:01 pm
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US Sanctions against Germany: How Dangerous Is Nord Stream 2?
[quote]The US is threatening Germany with crushing sanctions if
it continues with the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. How bad are
relations between the two sides? [/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZom0wQCYSc
At this rate pretty soon the only "country" that won't have U.S.
sanctions against it will be Israel. Brilliant strategy! ;D
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Re: Germany
By: FuckDugin Date: August 19, 2020, 6:15 pm
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[quote author=NuminousSun link=topic=51.msg787#msg787
date=1597449682]US Sanctions against Germany: How Dangerous Is
Nord Stream 2? [/quote]
Actually, Germany deserves much worse than just sanctions for
its constant cozying up to Russia. Besides the obvious, namely
all the ways that Russia benefits from Nord Stream directly, as
well as how it validates Russian expansionism, Germany, being
one of the initiators of the Normandy Format, is squandering its
credibility vis-á-vis Ukraine, which is disastrous in two ways:
(1) Ukraine, if backed accordingly by the non-rightist EU- and
NATO-members, could be useful not only as a bulwark against
Russia, but also as a base from which to launch operations
against the V4, two of whose members (Poland and Hungary) are
historically its sworn enemies no less than Russia, with the
remaining two members (Czechia and Slovakia) having at least a
history of occupying Ukrainian land (namely Transcarpathia, as
Czechoslovakia during the interwar period), as well as fighting
Ukrainian anti-communist guerillas in the aftermath of WW2.
However, if Ukraine is left high and dry, it will sooner or
later fall under the influence of Poland, the only larger
country in the area with a consistent anti-Russian foreign
policy, thus more or less putting its manpower, economic
potential and military strength at the V4's disposal. Given the
pressure Ukraine is under to find allies against Russia, this
scenario doesn't even require a prior right-wing shift in
Ukrainian politics.
(2) Ukraine falling under the influence of Poland and the V4
could very well pave the way for a V4-Russia-merger, given that
all geopolitical obstacles separating these two centers of
Turanism have been removed, thus completing Dugin's vision of a
Russia-dominated Turanian empire. This is actually a pattern
that has repeated itself a couple of times throughout history:
Poland and Russia compete for influence over Ukraine, Poland and
Russia partition Ukraine between themselves, Russia eventually
swallows Poland, either by force (the partitions of the
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) or consensual (communist Poland
acceding to the Warsaw Pact). Russia needs Ukraine as a stepping
stone to expand westward and the most convenient way to get this
stepping stone is in conjunction with Poland/V4. Germany and the
rest of the EU and NATO could prevent this by throwing all their
weight behind Ukraine, but alas, this is not what's happening.
#Post#: 855--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lebanon
By: Penny For Your Thoughts Date: August 20, 2020, 2:21 pm
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Apparently Macron wants to talk to Hezbollah and has practically
shown Aoun the finger, while Aoun wants to break the alliance
with Hezbollah and walk the treasonous trail the UAE blazed just
to save his ass.
HTML http://thesaker.is/the-hezbollah-france-twist/
This is a rather strange development as Macron still parrots the
"Iran and Hezbollah are bad" line, but he does put a helpful
policy forward nonetheless.
HTML https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/08/08/Macron-told-Trump-that-US-sanctions-on-Lebanese-groups-counterproductive-Official
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Re: Iran
By: guest5 Date: August 20, 2020, 8:17 pm
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European countries oppose US sanctions move on Iran, deepening
rift at UN
[quote]The United States formally began the process Thursday of
activating a controversial mechanism aimed at reimposing
sanctions on Iran, a move that was immediately rejected by
European allies fighting to save the Iranian nuclear
deal.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVpsmLhd9Yc
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