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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 17, 2023, 8:43 am
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This seems very deep. The music seemed majestic. Though I didn't
really understand the lyrics, somehow the phonetics fit in with
the melody. The monologue fit in too. I understand a lyrics'
phonetic pronunciation isn't really as much appreciation as a
lyrics' meaning (same with monologue) but if I understood the
meaning (or if a song drama was in my language), I think I could
understand your view. I may've not praised sound effects before,
but in this case, it was simple and had representation. It
enhanced the tone of the song drama.
"Song dramas fell out of fashion with the wider decline of radio
as a whole by the end of the 90s."
Well at least there's podcasts or audiobooks that can hopefully
revive it.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 17, 2023, 8:33 pm
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It has some similarities with duets (which I also love), but
there is a greater feeling of elemental and temporal
displacement between the hero and heroine: elemental because one
is singing whereas the other is speaking (in contrast to duets
where both are singing), and temporal because the speaker is not
responding to a live performance but to a recording of the
singer (in contrast to duets where both singers are responding
to each other in real-time). It is thus perfectly suited to
themes of separation, regret and imagined possibilities that did
not become real.
Do you like duets?
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 18, 2023, 10:02 am
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"Do you like duets?"
Why not? There's this song called 'Sekaiju no Dare Yori Kitto'
and it had a great melody and composition I listened to it over
and over again (including versions of other languages).
Even these Counterculture icons (Sammi Cheng and Andy Hui) made
their own version of it calling it 'Only You are Irreplaceable'
and it was beautiful:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWrdWND43Lo
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 18, 2023, 7:17 pm
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Yes, although this one was not written to be a duet, so it just
sounds like two people harmonizing lyrics meant for one person.
Here is a true Cheng-Hui duet (note how each singer has their
own lyrical perspective):
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAk-76pK8J8
Note also the scenery elements used in the above MV, such as the
bare concrete (0:00), sidewalk guards made of pipe (0:46), etc..
Here is another duet MV celebrating this type of scenery (wire
fences, pipe railings, plastic chairs, and lots of bare
concrete):
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_xsDoUtkc4
The following duet MV goes takes this aesthetic even further
(peeling paint, bamboo scaffolding, rusted window frames, dried
climbing plants - brilliant!):
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vqRYTVoiC0
MVs with this type of scenery are worth posting here for the
visuals alone. I will try to find more over time!
For now just one more, this time a solo:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkr6cVXWGqQ
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 18, 2023, 10:24 pm
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"Yes, although this one was not written to be a duet, so it just
sounds like two people harmonizing lyrics meant for one person."
Fine enough. I still like the song though.
"Here is a true Cheng-Hui duet (note how each singer has their
own lyrical perspective)"
I noticed the lyrical perspectives as well as I could hear how,
while singing different lyrics, they coincide due to their
similar amount in syllables. If only I was born early enough to
experience this sort of artistic creativity.
Also, would you ever put Cheng and Hui in:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/
or at least one of them? Hui, I could understand not, but I
believe Cheng has some potential (though I wouldn't know who to
boot).
"Note also the scenery elements used in the above MV, such as
the bare concrete (0:00), sidewalk guards made of pipe (0:46),
etc.."
I noticed it at 0:00. The lighting there was so cool and
calming.
"(wire fences, pipe railings, plastic chairs, and lots of bare
concrete)"
As any true minimalist should prefer.
"(peeling paint, bamboo scaffolding, rusted window frames, dried
climbing plants - brilliant!)"
Though things like paint aren't that necessary in the first
place, when they get worn out, it just reveals their true worth
(which does make the aesthetic beautiful). I remember I used to
peel the wallpaper (another unnecessary invention you mentioned
here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg4019/?topicseen#msg4019
) in my house as a child.
"MVs with this type of scenery are worth posting here for the
visuals alone. I will try to find more over time!"
Hitler would be proud of those MVs. I know I am and this is
coming from someone of non-Aryan ancestry (who has gladly
volunteered not to reproduce). I hope you, 90sRF, become an
example people can follow. :)
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 19, 2023, 9:12 pm
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"Cheng has some potential"
She achieves her thinness by dieting, so I am hesitant. I
certainly appreciate her positive qualities:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammi_Cheng
[quote]In the 1990s, another female star, Faye Wong was one of
her main rivals.[14] When they were on stage together, they
would be cold to one another. The rivalry was confirmed in the
1999 TVB music award night. Both Wong and Cheng were arranged to
sit next to each other backstage.[14] Cheng avoided Wong by
repeatedly going off stage to fix her make-up. In addition, her
fans were angry and hissed at Faye Wong when she went on stage
to receive an award.[14][/quote]
;D
Everyone respectable back in those days hated the subhuman:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/facial-aryanism/msg17680/#msg17680
Which brings me to antenna (0:36-1:10, 1:56-2:35) being another
element of this type of scenery:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PH7nva1314
More railings and concrete:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi6sQJD1Rbc
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9rD-8DYqg
Antenna + wire fences + junk-filled rooftop + random homeless
guy:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_3vvnmZ8Q
"As any true minimalist should prefer."
This is why it is impossible to take seriously rightist claims
that undecorative scenery is a "globalist conspiracy to
demoralize people". I watch MVs with this type of scenery to
heal myself! It is only the inferior who get demoralized by
absence of decoration, and the problem is with them, not with
the scenery!
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 20, 2023, 5:18 pm
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Back in the old days I recommended this drama to Hashtali
(unfortunately YouTube only has two episodes plus a short clip)
which is filled with this type of scenery:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ik5GbOqHi4
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84csJYTXPE
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OR6IaiLzW0
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 22, 2023, 6:24 pm
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One reason why I posted:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/the-archetype-of-the-warrior-how-films-help-empower-us-all/msg18991/#msg18991
is because this is also a series filled with this type of
scenery. For example, the duel scene starting 15:58 in Ep3:
HTML https://archive.org/details/sukeban-deka-ii/Sukeban+Deka+II+(1985)+%5BTSHS%5D+episode+03+%5B94118537%5D.mp4
Note the abundance of concrete, railings, wire fences, rust,
peeling paint, and placement of junk. This type of scenery is
the norm throughout the series. Contrast with the emphatically
Western scenery (cutlery, wine glasses, chandelier, patterned
curtains/wallpaper/carpet, and above all Western classical
music!), surrounding the villains, such as in the dinner scene
starting 2:46 in Ep6:
HTML https://archive.org/details/sukeban-deka-ii/Sukeban+Deka+II+(1985)+%5BTSHS%5D+episode+06+%5BC6DF5078%5D.mp4
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 23, 2023, 10:21 pm
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Another drama with this type of scenery is:
HTML https://list.youku.com/albumlist/show/id_989126.html
For example:
HTML https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTIyMzA4MDg=.html?spm=a2h1n.8251843.playList.5!7~1!2~3~A&f=989126&o=1
the heroes' hangout, the police station, the train station, the
warehouse and various other locations are all in this style.
Note the heavy use of fluorescent lights (also seen in the
convenience store). In the dog search scene (starting 38:10),
the hero even bumps his head on a railing at 38:50!
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 2ThaSun Date: April 23, 2023, 11:33 pm
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The Coup - "The Guillotine"
[quote]"The Guillotine" by The Coup from the new album 'Sorry To
Bother You,' out now[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acT_PSAZ7BQ
Comments:
[quote]2020 and this song is more relevant than ever.[/quote]
[quote]this song aged extremely well[/quote]
[quote]How has this musical GENUS been so underrated?!!! He's
one of the greats, just slept on! [/quote]
[quote]All of The Coup’s music has been ahead of it’s time
since the 90s… these guys were woke before “woke” became a
trend[/quote]
[quote]Damn this song gets more relevant every month this
year...[/quote]
[quote]Sorry to Bother You was a masterpiece 💝[/quote]
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