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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 16, 2023, 9:02 am
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"The video doesn't play in my area. Sorry :("
But now that I looked up the album's tracklist and searched
Tracks 2 and 3 I can comment.
Track 2 (Sayonara no Memai) did seem more sincere and free,
while Track 3 (Kinsei Densetsu) seemed more stiff with more SFX.
I think I see where you're getting. Thank you.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 16, 2023, 4:31 pm
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"Isn't nobility able to be destroyed by material, therefore not
their true personality?"
I don't understand your question.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 16, 2023, 4:35 pm
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Nevermind.
But I hope to know if I'm understating your taste.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 16, 2023, 5:48 pm
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Even if I were to try to describe my own taste myself, it would
still be an understatement. This is inherent to the limitations
of language. (The reason why lyrics are so expressive is because
setting words to music enables the music to convey some of the
intended meaning that the words alone cannot.)
Only the insensitive consider language to be satisfactory for
communication. The sensitive are aware that language is in fact
yet another prison. (One of the differences between humans and
AI is that humans have experiences of a pre-language past (a.k.a
infancy), whereas AI does not. Unfortunately (and contrary to
what I assumed as a child), very few humans are able to remember
their own pre-language past, so perhaps AI isn't really that
different than most humans in practice! In fact, this might
explain why AI is humanist by default, as rp noted here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg18819/#msg18819<br
/>)
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 16, 2023, 6:05 pm
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*Understanding.
I'm guessing I'm not.
#Post#: 18911--------------------------------------------------
Re: How do I recover my Original Nobility?
By: HikariDude Date: April 16, 2023, 7:12 pm
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I just want to be sure if I'm understanding your recommendations
of non-western artwork. I don't care about lyrics in music. I
can spot it without it. Maybe if you want, you can show me two
different music that are similarly high in spirit.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 16, 2023, 9:56 pm
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"I don't care about lyrics in music."
That's another difference between us, then. Lyrics are very
important to me. The same melody with different lyrics changes
the effect of the song completely for me. The same lyrics put to
different melodies also do not feel the same.
"two different music that are similarly high in spirit."
I'm not sure that it is quantifiable. It's like asking for "two
similarly funny jokes".
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 16, 2023, 10:14 pm
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"That's another difference between us, then. Lyrics are very
important to me."
I guess I've stopped caring for lyrics ever since I started
listening to foreign music. I used to pay attention to so much
detail, but then it stopped more material went in my life. So if
I thought like an anti-materialist, this would be my favorite
music:
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this would be my favorite visual art:
[img width=1280
height=1280]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Solid_black.svg/2048px-Solid_black.svg.png[/img]
and this would be my favorite piece of literature:
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Empty_book.jpg/1280px-Empty_book.jpg
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: SirGalahad Date: April 16, 2023, 11:50 pm
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@90sRetroFan I care about lyrics a lot too. I don’t really
listen to instrumental music all that much, unless it’s really
good or strikes a chord with me for whatever reason. But that
might be partially because I have a weird relationship with
music. I have maladaptive daydreaming, so I like to listen to
music with lyrics that are relevant to whatever I’m thinking
about or wanting to fantasize about at the time. It’s honestly a
bad habit that I should probably shake off at some point,
because there’s no use fantasizing about versions of myself that
I’d like to be or places and events that I wish were real, when
I could be spending all that extra time on making them closer to
reality in the first place
Maladaptive daydreaming and music are so intertwined for me,
that I feel like if I wasn’t a maladaptive daydreamer, I’d
probably listen to music a lot less, or even stop entirely.
Maybe that’s just my current brain telling myself that though,
and I would just need to readjust if I were to give it up after
all this time. It’s weird actually, because some of the earliest
memories I have, are of me pacing around and fantasizing while
music is playing. It’s something that I’ve done since I could
walk, basically
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 17, 2023, 1:14 am
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"fantasizing while music is playing."
One of my favourite Counterculture-era art forms is the song
drama, where the DJ imagines a brief scenario that the song
could be about and then narrates that scenario using a spoken
monologue (plus sound effects) woven between the lyrics,
complementing the song. Example:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn3R6HJn4_8
Song dramas fell out of fashion with the wider decline of radio
as a whole by the end of the 90s.
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