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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 8, 2023, 8:39 pm
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Here is an excellent example of how even the simplest 2D
animation achieves character expressiveness that 3D animation
will never come close to no matter how detailed it becomes:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_eh2Y4sD8
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 14, 2023, 7:32 pm
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What exactly is spirit?
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 14, 2023, 8:43 pm
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"What in today's time would you say works like radio, TV and CD
stores where the person runs it for the viewers?"
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At least I'm trying to gradually build it up to becoming so.
"What exactly is spirit?"
The thing which has been trapped in the material world.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 14, 2023, 9:46 pm
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How do you find it in art? Is 'groove' a good word to describe
it? If so, then I would definitely see better on what you mean.
The ancient strokes were fast so it gave more personality.
Perfume's music is completely unnatural and could've been better
as an Techno-pop song if it was made DAWless or with a band.
Chinen's music, like the calligraphy, has that groove. Drill,
like Perfume's music, is also artificial. Don't get me started
on the overly practiced complex Classical music that Romantic
composers like Wagner needed to simplify. Also that urban
dancing had more individualism until there were synchronized
dance crews popularized by ABDC. I also loved how each couple in
Soul Train here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg2449/#msg2449
were putting their own personal spin on the dancing they shared.
And how, seeing all the dancers, this dance wasn't too
practiced:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6484/#msg6484
And even when there were choreographies that needed practice for
a country (at the time) ran by Xi (second video):
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it's still an easy dance to follow along. Wagner's Parsifal was
also pretty simple in a field where he needed orchestration.
I hope I was getting it.
"At least I'm trying to gradually build it up to becoming so."
I applaud you for that.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 14, 2023, 11:28 pm
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"How do you find it in art?"
I don't think it is possible to describe in words. It would be
like trying to describe a colour in words. I can at best offer
examples of otherwise dissimilar things which are of that same
colour, and someone (who is not colourblind) looking at that set
of things can thus understand the common property I am referring
to.
"Is 'groove' a good word to describe it?"
To me groove refers more to getting into the optimal
psychological state for doing art, which all serious artists try
to do before/during working. But there are many possible
grooves, including many anti-spiritual ones
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 15, 2023, 8:12 am
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Maybe 'groove' is not the word for spirit. Maybe 'personality'
or 'individualism'?
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 15, 2023, 8:38 am
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Also, I would love to see two songs of the same genre with one
of them having spirit, as well as two different genres but with
the same spirit.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 15, 2023, 2:55 pm
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"Here is an excellent example of how even the simplest 2D
animation achieves character expressiveness that 3D animation
will never come close to no matter how detailed it becomes:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_eh2Y4sD8
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Is this what you mean by spirit? I can see how the character's
emotion as well as the artist's imagination, and all the music
needed was the basic instruments, while instruments like the
brass and bell were there for musical narration and not for
style or skill.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 15, 2023, 8:05 pm
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"Maybe 'personality' or 'individualism'?"
It is possible to have an anti-spiritual personality or be an
anti-spiritual individual.
Why are you trying so hard to find another word for it anyway?
Even if you succeed, synonyms are not understanding. Violet is
another word for purple. Does it improve our understanding of
that colour?
"I would love to see two songs of the same genre with one of
them having spirit"
HTML https://www.bilibili.tv/en/video/2048354328
Track 3 (starts 9:07, listen to it first) and Track 2 (starts
4:14) were both candidates for an image song of the same show.
Of course Track 2 got the job.
"Is this what you mean by spirit?"
That was about the superiority of 2D over 3D animation. But
spiritless 2D animation is also possible.
Also, please link to the original post when reposting videos.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: HikariDude Date: April 15, 2023, 9:59 pm
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"Also, please link to the original post when reposting videos."
It was in this topic. This was the link:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/is-counterculture-still-alive/msg18787/#msg18787
"Why are you trying so hard to find another word for it anyway?"
I'm trying to understand what you mean by spirit.
"It is possible to have an anti-spiritual personality or be an
anti-spiritual individual."
Isn't nobility able to be destroyed by material, therefore not
their true personality?
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HTML https://www.bilibili.tv/en/video/2048354328"
The video doesn't play in my area. Sorry :(
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