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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: Blue Kumul Date: February 8, 2022, 8:00 am
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Some parts of the Counterculture are alive:
-anti-racism
-environmentalism
-sexual liberation
-LGBT rights
-radical feminism
-yoga and meditation became mainstream
Other are not:
-being skeptical about economic technological growth
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: Blue Kumul Date: February 8, 2022, 9:40 am
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Youth worship typical of Counterculture is gone. Entertainment
and advertising are now more focused on people in their 30s.
"Adult negativity" and positive attitude to teenage rebellion
are less widespread.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 7, 2022, 2:13 am
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I suddenly remembered that in the Orochi saga of the KOF series,
the villains had their moves written in Cyrillic:
HTML https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Hakkesshu
[quote]The Four Heavenly Kings of Orochi
(オロチ四天王, Orochi
Shiten-ō) are the four strongest warriors in the Hakkesshu
among The Eight Heads. They control elements of nature, possess
some of Orochi's original abilities, and can activate the Riot
of the Blood in people who are susceptible to it, and/or use the
state for themselves. Orochi can probably incarnate in them, as
he did with Chris. All of their moves are all written using the
Cyrillic alphabet.
...
Except for certain characters, the movesets of all
Orochi-awakened versions of the Hakkeshu (and even Orochi
itself) are almost always written in Cyrillic, which is a
Russian/Slavic writing script. There are currently no
explanations as to why this is used, whether in-universe or from
SNK.[/quote]
See the move lists here:
HTML http://you.lolipop.jp/s/kof/kof97/orochi.html
Low-key anti-Turanism was almost a standard side attitude back
in those days. The BGM of their stage is also a good reflection
of what we thought of them:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzyf11a24b0
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Re: Random Thoughts....
By: SirGalahad Date: December 3, 2022, 4:11 pm
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I came across a quote online from a book that I think
encapsulates how @90sRetroFan feels about their era perfectly:
“History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but
even without being sure of “history” it seems entirely
reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a
whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for
reasons that nobody really understands at the time—and which
never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened. … There
was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was
right, that we were winning. And that, I think, was the
handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old
and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need
that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in
fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were
riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave.
So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep
hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes
you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave
finally broke and rolled back.”
Essentially, this whole passage can be boiled down to the
tagline of our Counterculture Era thread: “when western
civilization was meant to have died peacefully”
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Even though I was born right at the second millennium, so the
post-9/11 world is really the only world that I truly know, and
this book quote is referring to the counterculture of the 60s, I
sometimes keep myself awake longer than I should be by going on
a 90s kick. Honestly, this current era well and truly terrifies
me. There’s something so isolating about how the internet has
managed to fit itself into our society. Almost every place that
human beings used to congregate in the flesh is now dead or
dying because of the internet. Even monuments to western
consumerism like malls are in zombified, decrepit states almost
everywhere. The functions that these places used to provide can
largely be accessed through online services. The grocery store
is really the only place that people actually go to on a regular
basis anymore, and even then, grocery stores were never used for
interacting with people. Things are only going to get worse as
VR technology improves. There will soon come a time where not
only will we spend most of our time in total isolation, but even
when we do “leave the house”, it’ll be for virtual environments
surrounded by virtual people
Sometimes, I wish that we were all born at the same time, going
to the same schools. Doesn’t even have to be in the 90s,
although it’d be pretty sweet for all of us, including the 2000s
babies, to relive 90sRetroFan’s youth. If the best of us had all
been given the chance to grow up together and support each
other, I have no doubt that tens of novels could have been
written about what we would’ve gotten up to, and I probably
would have cherished those memories my whole life.
But the reality is that life often robs us of romantic lives and
leaves us with bland or even terrible youths. My reality was
that I spent my youth almost completely alone save for the
biological family that I didn’t ask for, because I found it hard
to socialize like everybody else and always felt misunderstood.
I can’t really describe in words how much it hurts my heart
sometimes when I think about how I’m here, in this world that
sets such low expectations for how people should be and how life
should be, instead of in that world that I sometimes experience
every once in a while, where I’m having a dream that I don’t
wanna wake up from. I don’t really know any of you on a personal
level. We’re all just text tied to usernames at this point. But
my interactions with the people here have been more meaningful
than almost every real life interaction I’ve had in my entire
life.
@90sRetroFan, and the others, thanks for being here. I’m not so
sure I would’ve made it here and came to the same conclusions
about the world, had that website not been written
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Re: Re: Random Thoughts....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 3, 2022, 5:53 pm
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"There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were
doing was right, that we were winning. And that, I think, was
the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of
Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need
that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in
fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were
riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave."
Yes, this really was how it felt back then.
"I sometimes keep myself awake longer than I should be by going
on a 90s kick."
Please feel welcome to share/review stuff you have watched or
ask for suggestions on what to watch next! This is one thing I
intended the Counterculture era forum to be for, and so far it
has been underused in this capacity!
"it’d be pretty sweet for all of us, including the 2000s babies,
to relive 90sRetroFan’s youth."
Let's do it right here! I'm ready whenever anyone else is!
Here is an early Christmas present for you:
HTML https://mangatoto.com/chapter/390142
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Re: Re: Random Thoughts....
By: SirGalahad Date: December 3, 2022, 7:29 pm
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Thank you! I might have to read the rest of that. That chapter
made a pretty good first impression. As for what spurred me to
type out that long message, I have to come clean and admit that
it was from rewatching that one live action Casper movie from
1995 last night:
HTML https://youtu.be/33Ioa89EfNk
It doesn’t really have an important message to tell, but I
remember watching this movie a long time ago when I was a kid,
and being smitten by the ending. I also remember being
frustrated at the forced trade-off of using the Lazarus to
revive her dad instead of to give Casper a second chance at
life, even when I was little. For some reason, I find
bitter-sweet endings more depressing than purely sad ones. And
the nostalgia combined with that feeling, put me in a weird
headspace for the rest of that night and most of today, hence
why I started looking back at stuff from my own childhood and
from the 90s, and typed out that long message
And then, on the other hand, you have “romance” movies like Her,
where the main premise is that some adulterated man falls in
love with an AI. That movie kind of grosses me out, because the
man who’s supposed to be the protagonist can only seem to
connect with women, including the AI, through sex. I.E., the
protagonist isn’t romantic at all. He’s not even likable. He
suffers from the same thing that a lot of male protagonists in
romance movies do: He’s nothing more than a bland stand-in
that’s “relatable” (generic and adulterated) enough that most
other men can self-insert themselves into the story. And it
doesn’t help that the world is basically a dystopia, so you
can’t even really enjoy the movie because it hits too close to
home with how the near future is portrayed
I’d definitely be willing to take some suggestions. What do you
consider mandatory watching and reading material, if I were to
retrace your steps with the stuff that has gripped you from your
youth and never really left?
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 5, 2022, 10:52 pm
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Have you played the original Mike Tyson's Punch-Out for the NES?
It's a worthwhile experience to complete the game at least once.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF4qt6ce0Mo
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D28evyhvKTI
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciJMU8ALP0w
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMdts5p9tA
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: SirGalahad Date: December 7, 2022, 8:05 pm
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I don't know if any of you here like this kind of genre, but I
recently found this song from a band that I like:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ2f1txmG6o
"Woe to the strong who misuse their strength. Woe to the hunter,
for they shall be hunted" - Jesus, Gospel of the Holy Twelve
Almost definitely a coincidence, but a very welcome one. And
yes, the band itself is vegan. They started in the 90s and are
still making music to this day. I can't adequately express just
how much I respect people who were proudly vegan back when
virtually nobody else was, and when eating plant-based was so
much harder and "less convenient". Voice of the Voiceless is
another good song by them about the same topic. Bonus song by
another entirely separate band, if you jive more with punk than
metal:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVoi735qv8
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: SA (Still Alive) Date: December 18, 2022, 5:51 am
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Some media that hasn't been purged:
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xLtCTpRua5Zb/
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
By: guest78 Date: January 18, 2023, 10:39 pm
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[quote]Watchmen is an American superhero drama limited series
based on the 1986 DC Comics series of the same title created by
Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. The TV series was created for HBO
by Damon Lindelof, who also served as an executive producer and
writer. Its ensemble cast includes Regina King, Don Johnson, Tim
Blake Nelson, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Andrew Howard, Jacob
Ming-Trent, Tom Mison, Sara Vickers, Dylan Schombing, Louis
Gossett Jr. and Jeremy Irons. Jean Smart and Hong Chau joined
the cast in later episodes.
Lindelof likened the television series to a "remix" of the
original comic series. While the series is technically a sequel
that takes place 34 years after the events of the comics within
the same alternate reality, Lindelof wanted to introduce new
characters and conflicts which created a new story within the
Watchmen continuity, rather than creating a reboot. The series
focuses on events surrounding racist violence in present-day
Tulsa, Oklahoma. A white supremacist group called the Seventh
Kavalry has taken up arms against the Tulsa Police Department
because of perceived racial injustices, causing the police to
conceal their identities with masks to prevent the Seventh
Kavalry from targeting them in their homes following the "White
Night". Angela Abar (King), a detective known as Sister Night,
investigates the murder of her friend and the chief of the
police, Judd Crawford (Johnson), and discovers secrets regarding
the situations around vigilantism...[/quote]
[quote]Premise
The series takes place 34 years after the events of the comic
series. In the comic's alternate history of the 20th century,
vigilantes, once seen as heroes, were outlawed due to their
violent methods. In 1985, Adrian Veidt, formerly known as the
vigilante Ozymandias, launched a false flag attack on New York
City by creating an alien-looking squid monster which resulted
in millions in the New York area being killed; this forced the
nations to work together against a common threat, averting world
war and a nuclear holocaust. Veidt's actions horrified his
former companions, with Rorschach planning to tell the world
what really happened before being vaporized by Doctor Manhattan,
who then left the planet. Unbeknownst to Manhattan, Rorschach
had already sent his journal detailing the events to the local
newspaper.
The series is set in 2019 Tulsa, Oklahoma. The Seventh Kavalry,
a white supremacist group inspired by Rorschach's writings and
masked image (having misinterpreted his journal as a racist
manifesto), wages violent war against minorities and the police
that enforce special reparations for victims of racial
injustice. On Christmas Eve 2016, during an event that came to
be known as the "White Night", the Kavalry attacked the homes of
40 police officers working for the Tulsa Police Department.[1]
Of those who survived, only two stayed with the force: Detective
Angela Abar and Police Chief Judd Crawford.[2] As the police
force was rebuilt, laws were passed that required police to not
disclose their profession and to protect their identities while
on the job by wearing masks, which included allowing for
costumed police officers. As Crawford's police force attempts to
crack down on the Seventh Kavalry, Abar finds herself at the
center of two competing plots to kidnap Doctor Manhattan, who
has been working with Hooded Justice, the original masked hero
and survivor of the Tulsa massacre...[3] [/quote]
In episode 2:
[quote]In World War I, O.B., a soldier in the American army,
pockets a piece of German propaganda challenging their racial
equality (in the U.S.)...[/quote]
The villain is a westerner!:
[quote][...]Meanwhile, the lord unsuccessfully tests a
protective suit with a Phillips clone. He hunts down a bison for
its thicker hide, but is stopped by the "Game Warden", who later
writes to remind him of the terms of his imprisonment. The lord
responds in a letter acknowledging these terms, signing it as
Adrian Veidt and goes out to hunt again in his Ozymandias
outfit...[/quote]
[quote][...]Meanwhile, Veidt collects fetuses from a lake to
grow new clones of Phillips and Crookshanks after killing off
all of the existing ones. With their help, Veidt launches the
dead bodies with a catapult to test the limits of his
prison...[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)
Lord Veidt:
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height=1280]
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[img width=1280
height=812]
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