DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
True Left
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Ancient World
*****************************************************
#Post#: 27709--------------------------------------------------
Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: rp Date: September 2, 2024, 10:30 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Rare Vivek W. Wignats seething:
HTML https://x.com/TrueIndology/status/1772118827922227697?t=kquBD8-sZVb_aM92nQtGVw&s=19
[Quote]
Vivek is mostly right. In Roman Empire, race mattered very
little. Curious to see the outrage from Western left and right
Rome had non-white emperors like Elagabalus the Syrian, Philip
the Arab and Lucius Septimius the Libyan.
If Romans had black slaves, they also had white slaves. In just
one Gaulish campaign in today's France, Julius Caesar enslaved
around 1 million whites.
Once conquered, Romans tried to integrate the conquered
territory and build establishments therein. Which is why we see
so many expensive Roman projects in conquered territories. It is
because of these integration attempts that a descendant of local
language of Rome is spoken across Mediterranean today
supplanting many languages.
Romans were not fans of extreme blondism. Some Romans perceived
eastern white tribes like Scythians and Slavs as 'milk drinking
barbarians'.
[Quote]
“Racism” didn’t really exist in ancient Rome. Emperors were
white, black, Arab, didn’t matter. The color of your skin was
like the color of your eyes. *Citizenship* is the distinction
they drew. It wasn’t just about what you got in return, it was
about your duty to your nation.
[img width=960
height=1280]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJc97hTWEAA-vcK?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[img width=1280
height=854]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJc97hPW4AAzllg?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[img width=960
height=1280]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJc97hMWgAAYFqL?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
[/Quote]
#Post#: 27710--------------------------------------------------
Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 2, 2024, 10:59 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote]'milk drinking barbarians'.[/quote]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/padania-vs-saturnia/msg22119/#msg22119
[quote]
HTML https://apiwp.thelocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/1579088514_pasta-map.jpg[/quote]
Wider context:
[img width=1268
height=1280]
HTML https://scontent.fhkg4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/184135523_2110685995738643_2183654245617715860_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0327a3&_nc_ohc=rA6wsiaPLCgQ7kNvgHmxRYT&_nc_ht=scontent.fhkg4-1.fna&oh=00_AYDoKhLIQfICxhtnK7Glx6xfygWCV8AHg0FeCWDHmfc7Og&oe=66FDED1E[/img]
#Post#: 28431--------------------------------------------------
Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 29, 2024, 5:07 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Enemy article:
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2024/10/29/mbogbas-machete-more-on-blacks-blighting-whites/
[quote]when modern leftists celebrate Roman Britain as “diverse”
and “multicultural,” they don’t explain why the empire had a
policy of stationing troops from distant provinces in Britain.
What is the explanation? It’s simple: the Romans knew that those
foreign troops had no kinship with and would feel no sympathy
for the indigenous Celts of Britain[/quote]
This is competent statism. Troops are supposed to be loyal to
the state, not to an ethnotribe. If Romans had used Celtic
troops in Britain, Britain would probably not have been Roman
for long.
[quote]In other words, leftists are celebrating imperialism,
colonialism and enslavement when they celebrate Roman
Britain.[/quote]
Imperialism, yes. Colonialism, no. Individuals of Celtic
ancestry were welcome to become Roman citizens. A better example
of colonialism would be British Empire colonies, whose
indigenous populations were not welcome to become British
citizens. As for enslavement, at least Romans enslaved without
regard for ethnic background, unlike the British and other
Western colonial empires which never enslaved "whites" but had
no scruples about enslaving "non-whites".
[quote]Queen Boudicca led the native British in rebellion
against the foreign invaders who had imposed “diversity” and
“multiculturalism” on them at sword-point. The rebellion was
bloodily suppressed: Tacitus reports that 80,000 Britons were
slaughtered in the final and decisive battle. By leftist
standards, the imperialist enslaving Romans were guilty of
horrible crimes against the indigenous Celtic natives of
Britain.[/quote]
Absolutely not. The Romans did not force existing inhabitants of
Britain to move. Roman conquest merely meant that taxes
previously payable to Boudicca etc. were now payable to Rome
instead. And the existing inhabitants got the additional benefit
of migrational access to all Roman provinces. Welcome to
integrationist imperialism! (In contrast, could Nigerians paying
taxes to the British Empire choose to migrate to Australia?
Hint:
HTML https://cdn.britannica.com/94/195494-050-2BB743F5/Sheet-music-White-Australia-WE-Naunton-words-1910.jpg<br
/>)
*****************************************************
DIR Previous Page
DIR Next Page