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Re: Roman Road-Construction
By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 11, 2023, 7:18 pm
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Another element supporting our position that Romans are less
Western than Jews is that Romans had eunuchs:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch
[quote]The Galli or Priests of Cybele were eunuchs.
In the late period of the Roman Empire, after the adoption of
the oriental royal court model by the Emperors Diocletian (r.
284–305) and Constantine (r. 306–337), emperors were surrounded
by eunuchs for such functions as bathing, haircutting, dressing,
and bureaucratic functions, in effect acting as a shield between
the emperor and his administrators from physical contact, thus
enjoying great influence in the imperial court (see Eusebius and
Eutropius).[/quote]
in common with non-Western civilizations:
[quote]Eunuchs were familiar figures in the Assyrian Empire (ca.
850 until 622 BCE)[28] and in the court of the Egyptian Pharaohs
(down to the Lagid dynasty known as Ptolemies, ending with
Cleopatra VII, 30 BCE). Eunuchs sometimes were used as regents
for underage heirs to the throne, as it seems to be the case for
the Neo-Hittite state of Carchemish.[29] Political eunuchism
became a fully established institution among the Achamenide
Persians.[30] Eunuchs held powerful positions in the Achaemenide
court.
...
Eunuchs existed in China from about 4,000 years ago, were
imperial servants by 3,000 years ago, and were common as civil
servants by the time of the Qin dynasty.[39][40]
...
The eunuchs of Korea, called Korean: 내시,
內侍, romanized: naesi,[45] were officials to the
king and other royalty in traditional Korean society. The first
recorded appearance of a Korean eunuch was in Goryeosa ("History
of Goryeo"), a compilation about the Goryeo dynasty period.
...
Many Vietnamese eunuchs were products of self castration to gain
access to the palaces and power. In other cases they might be
paid to become eunuchs. They served in many capacities, from
supervising public works, to investigating crimes, to reading
public proclamations.[52]
...
Sir Henry Yule saw many Muslims serving as eunuchs during the
Konbaung dynasty period of Burma (modern Myanmar) while on a
diplomatic mission.[57]
...
For several centuries, Muslim Eunuchs were tasked with honored
roles in Medina and Mecca.[58] They are thought to have been
instituted in their role there by Salah ad-Deen Ayubi, but
perhaps earlier.[58][59] Their tasks included caring for the
Prophet Muhammad's tomb, maintaining borders between males and
females where needed, and keeping order in the sacred
spaces.[58] They were highly respected in their time and
remained there throughout the Ottoman Empire's control of the
area and afterward.[58]
...
In the Shi'i Fatimid Empire (909 CE - 1171 CE), eunuchs played
major roles in the politics of the caliphate's court.
...
Eunuch priests have served various goddesses from India for many
centuries.[/quote]
whereas Jews did not:
[quote]Although the Ancient Hebrews did not practice castration,
eunuchs were common in other cultures featured in the Bible,
such as ancient Egypt, Babylonia, the Persian Empire, and
ancient Rome.[/quote]
in common with Western civilization. The absence of eunuchs in
Western civilization of course goes back our point about Western
civilization being more patriarchal compared with non-Western
civilizations.
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Re: Roman Road-Construction
By: rp Date: February 14, 2023, 9:26 pm
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Jews seem to be the purest subgroup of Turanians, while most
other subgroups seem to have significant Gentile admixture.
However, nowadays, they seem to be matriarchal, unlike most
Turanians, or even their ancestors. One thing's for sure: the
fact that they have been able to remain racially pure as a tribe
all these millennia makes them all the more devious, as I
suspect their ethnotribalism far exceeds that of even most
non-Jewish Turanist groups.
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Re: Roman Road-Construction
By: rp Date: February 15, 2023, 9:49 pm
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An Empire of Immigrants
HTML https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/empire-immigrants#:~:text=Many%20immigrants%20advanced%20their%20families,status%20of%20a%20free%20person.
[quote]Rome was still an empire of immigrants in those years.
Many immigrants advanced their families’ reputations and their
own careers by settling inside the Roman Empire’s borders:
Franks, Armenians, Vandals, Moors, Ethiopians, and more. Unless
conquered and enslaved in war, every man and woman who lived
inside the empire’s territorial border held the status of a free
person. A kaleidoscope of options for where to live, what to
enjoy, and how to earn a living kept society colorfully in
motion. Latin may have famously been the common language, but
all around the ancient world, multilingualism was the norm. A
basic definition of Romanitas—the quality of what it meant to
live under the rule of the emperors, to call one of the
hundred-plus provinces your home, and to know that the borders
of your world were protected day and night by soldiers at the
frontier—emerged from this array of diversity. Privilege,
education, wealth, and one’s own dreams filled in the rest.
[/quote]
How will rightists explain this? ;D Cope and seethe
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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
By: antihellenistic Date: July 21, 2023, 9:56 am
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Rightist Rome (Bad Rome) vs Leftist Rome (Good Rome)
Rightist Rome. Roman Republic (Racial Identitarianism and
Faustianism)
[quote]...Irrespective of age or context, the success of
European civilization stems from its evolutionary backgrounds as
made manifest by the Faustian spirit of its earliest peoples,
the Proto-Indo-Europeans and their successors, the
Indo-Europeans. Early Rome, both of the monarchial and
republican variety, was a continuation of the Faustian soul of
Indo-Europe.
...
In continuation of the Faustian soul of Europe, the Republican
era of ancient Rome was an epoch or martial glory and by
extension, militaristic expansion, and one could argue by even
the most objective metrics, the apogee of Roman civilization.
Rome’s geopolitical expansion and eventual hegemonic lordship
over huge swathes of Europe, North Africa and Western Asia is
unprecedented in European history in terms of its sheer scale,
scope and tempo, and as such is an important period of study for
ethnonationalists.
...
The Indo-Europeans most likely originated from within the vast
Pontic-Caspian steppes of Eurasia, and were initially a nomadic
and later a transhumant pastoralist people, who conquered,
colonized and migrated throughout Europe proper, the ancient
Near East and the Indian Subcontinent. The Indo-Europeans were a
hierarchical tribal people, with society being divided along
tripartite lines, i.e. the religious, cultivator and warrior
castes.
...
Competition is still, and has historically, always been both
indigenous to the Faustian nature of European man, and a main
contributory factor to White-European civilizational success;
competition is however only a social net positive when it occurs
within racially homogenous societies.[/quote]
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/01/19/faustian-rome-the-indo-european-nature-of-the-roman-republic/
Leftist Rome. Roman Empire (Integralism and Suffragism)
[quote]it was during the reign of the Emperor Claudius (r.
41–54AD) in which the first non-Roman, non-Italic citizens, was
granted the freedom to hold political office within the city of
Rome itself. [11] Claudius himself was born in Lugdunum
(modern-day Lyons, France) and his extending of the political
enfranchisement to non-Romans was quite revolutionary at the
time.
...
...50% of them being of a non-Indo-European origin, would
account for a significant percentage of the population growth
experienced by Rome during the later Imperial periods. [17]
Moreover, r/K selection theory posits that individuals of
lower-status will compensate for low levels of parental
investment with the siring of more offspring, and recently
manumitted freedmen, particularly from low-IQ areas, such as
North Africa, would be a prime example of this process of
selection, which would in turn would exert a dysgenic effect
over the entire population.
During the Republic, Rome was characterized by racio-cultural
homogeneity.[/quote]
HTML https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/01/20/faustian-rome-the-indo-european-nature-of-the-roman-republic-part-2/
Therefore, homogenous society did not prevent people for doing
bad things for their neighbors. True Left's political theory
confirmed
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Re: Roman Road-Construction
By: . Date: September 15, 2023, 8:34 pm
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If the best racial elements of the germanic and mediterranean
races were to combine to form an empire, then said empire would
be able to rule the world, like what Hitler said in his table
talks. The germanic race with its directness, discipline,
upright character, and its organizational abilities. And the
best elements of the mediterranean races with their cultural
genius, expressive fire, and their ability to create
militaristic defensive fortifications. Not only would such an
empire be indestructible, it would also usher in the new golden
age. It's time for this insane Anglo/Russian bipolar world order
to come to an end! Germany must wake up now.
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Re: Roman Road-Construction
By: . Date: September 15, 2023, 9:24 pm
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I am determined that this vision becomes reality.
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Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: antihellenistic Date: November 8, 2023, 5:50 pm
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Roman Empire Colonialism
[quote]The Roman Empire was extended over many lands that were
racially non-European, and in North Africa and the Near East
these would fall out of the Western orbit with the decline of
Roman rule. On the other hand, the Romans ruled over areas in
Europe that would also break out of Roman rule, such as the
territory of present day Germany and regions in northern and
eastern Europe, which were European racially and would continue
the Western tradition. Although this is a long discussion, there
is a tendency among some scholars to identify Rome as a
multiracial empire, but this is a mistake. As Azar Gat has
observed in Nations: The Long History and Deep Roots of
Political Ethnicity and Nationalism, ethnicity was no less an
important component of the makeup of empires generally than
domination by social elites over a tax paying peasantry or slave
force. ‘Almost universally they were either overtly or tacitly
the empires of a particular people or ethnos.’ [52] While Gat
does not identify the Romans and Italians as a race, but writes
of the Romans and Italians as ethnic groups with their own
distinctive culture, it is worth noting first that the Etruscans
were the only non-Indo-European people in the Italian peninsula,
and secondly that as the Romans defeated all other ethnic groups
in Italy they imposed a process of acculturation to Roman ways.
This was achieved through elite connections, military service,
and eventually the granting of citizenship. Citizenship was
granted to all Italian residents after the so-called Social War
of 91–88 BC. Gat writes that ‘if ethnic differences in Italy
were still noticeable at the beginning of the 1st century BC,
they had practically disappeared by the end of that century. By
the time of Augustus, the concepts of Roman and Italian had
become virtually identical.’ [53] Now, it is true that as the
process of Romanisation continued, in 212 AD the entire free
population in the Empire, including members of other races, was
given citizenship status. This means, however, that before this
rather late date in Rome’s history, the vast majority of those
who held Roman citizenship were Italian. Moreover, historians
agree that the only reason the Emperor Caracalla extended
citizenship was to expand the Roman tax base. All in all, the
acquisition of citizenship came in graduated levels with
promises of further rights with increased assimilation; and,
right until the end, not all citizens had the same rights, with
Romans and Italians generally enjoying a higher status. Rome was
a very Eurocentric empire. Beyond citizenship, Romanisation was
largely successful in the Western half of the empire, i.e.
Italy, Gaul, and Iberian, all of which were Indo-European in
race. Meanwhile, the Eastern Empire retained its upper crust of
Greekness, with a mass of Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Judaic,
Persian, and Assyrian peoples following their ancient ways,
virtually untouched by Roman culture. The process of
Romanisation and expansion of citizenship was effective only in
the Western (Indo-European) half of the Empire, where
inhabitants were European in race; whereas in the East it had
superficial effects apart from the Greek
inhabitants.[54][/quote]
Source :
Faustian Man in Multicultural Age by Ricardo Duchesne page 93,
94
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Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 8, 2023, 6:20 pm
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[quote]Rome was a very Eurocentric empire. Beyond citizenship,
Romanisation was largely successful in the Western half of the
empire, i.e. Italy, Gaul, and Iberian, all of which were
Indo-European in race.[/quote]
This is cherrypicking. What about the notorious failure of
Romanization in Britain, where the only serious dispute is whose
fault it was?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Roman_rule_in_Britain#Interpretative_variations
[quote]The historian Theodor Mommsen (Britain, 1885) said that
"It was not Britain that gave up Rome, but Rome that gave up
Britain ...", arguing that Roman needs and priorities lay
elsewhere.[38] His position has retained scholarly support over
the passage of time.
Michael Jones (The End of Roman Britain, 1998) took the opposite
view, saying that it was Britain that left Rome, arguing that
numerous usurpers based in Britain combined with poor
administration caused the Romano-Britons to revolt.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZs2_i_cDE
Just because we academically agree with Duchesne on some points
does not mean he is an honest historian. The one thing he
accurately admits is that:
[quote]in 212 AD the entire free population in the Empire,
including members of other races, was given citizenship
status.[/quote]
Therefore Rome cannot be accused of colonialism. You yourself
understood this as recently as back here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/what-did-the-romans-think-about-race/msg21045/#msg21045
[quote]Roman Empire (Integralism and Suffragism)[/quote]
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Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: Anglo-Saxons Date: November 8, 2023, 8:55 pm
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The Anglo-Saxon colonialism of the Romano-British is why we all
are typing in a Germanic language. Perhaps the British Empire
may never have been a colonial empire had itself not been
previously colonized by Anglo-Saxon blood?
[quote]The Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain is the process
which changed the language and culture of most of what became
England from Romano-British to Germanic. The Germanic-speakers
in Britain, themselves of diverse origins, eventually developed
a common cultural identity as Anglo-Saxons.[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_settlement_of_Britain
Related:
[quote]Regional languages
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Roman_provincial_languages_150CE.png
"Provincial Languages of the Roman Empire circa 150 CE"
[img]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/PalmyraWoman.JPG/800px-PalmyraWoman.JPG[/img]
"Funerary bust (2nd century AD) of Aqmat, a Syrian woman, with
an inscription in the Palmyrene dialect of Aramaic"
The dominance of Latin and Greek among the literate elite may
obscure the continuity of spoken languages, since all cultures
within the Roman Empire were predominantly oral.[51] In areas
where Syriac, Coptic, and Aramaic were spoken, they coexisted
with Greek.[52][/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Roman_Empire
Noteworthy:
Had Germany won WWII you would not all be speaking German.
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Re: What did the Romans think about Race?
By: antihellenistic Date: April 10, 2024, 10:02 pm
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Our enemies hate Roman Empire because according to them, that
kingdom resulting demographic reductions for "whites" or
"Europeans"
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