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Re: Academic decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: May 6, 2021, 7:35 pm
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Here are a few articles by a psychologist who focuses on
childhood education. He suggests allowing children to have a
"self-directed" education where they learn things they are
interested in, rather than following the Western model of being
forced to learn every subject and having their grade-level
"progress" be rigidly determined by things such as exams. He has
a number of articles explaining his views on this, but here are
some articles telling us what we knew all along about the
Western school system:
[quote] “Why Don’t Students Like School?” Well, Duhhhh…
Children don't like school because they love freedom.
Someone recently referred me to a book that they thought I'd
like. It's a 2009 book, aimed toward teachers of grades K
through 12, titled Why Don't Students Like School? It's by a
cognitive scientist named Daniel T. Willingham, and it has
received rave reviews by countless people involved in the school
system. Google the title and author and you'll find pages and
pages of doting reviews and nobody pointing out that the book
totally and utterly fails to answer the question posed by its
title.
Willingham's thesis is that students don't like school because
their teachers don't have a full understanding of certain
cognitive principles and therefore don't teach as well as they
could. They don't present material in ways that appeal best to
students' minds. Presumably, if teachers followed Willingham's
advice and used the latest information cognitive science has to
offer about how the mind works, students would love school.
Talk about avoiding the elephant in the room!
Ask any schoolchild why they don't like school and they'll tell
you. "School is prison." They may not use those words, because
they're too polite, or maybe they've already been brainwashed to
believe that school is for their own good and therefore it can't
be prison. But decipher their words and the translation
generally is, "School is prison."
Willingham surely knows that school is prison. He can't help but
know it; everyone knows it. But here he writes a whole book
entitled Why Don't Students Like School? and not once does he
suggest that just possibly they don't like school because they
like freedom, and in school they are not free.
I shouldn't be too harsh on Willingham. He's not the only one
avoiding this particular elephant in the room. Everyone who has
ever been to school knows that school is prison, but almost
nobody says it. It's not polite to say it. We all tiptoe around
this truth, that school is prison, because telling the truth
makes us all seem so mean. How could all these nice people be
sending their children to prison for a good share of the first
18 years of their lives? How could our democratic government,
which is founded on principles of freedom and
self-determination, make laws requiring children and adolescents
to spend a good portion of their days in prison? It's
unthinkable, and so we try hard to avoid thinking it. Or, if we
think it, we at least don't say it. When we talk about what's
wrong with schools we pretend not to see the elephant, and we
talk instead about some of the dander that's gathered around the
elephant's periphery.
But I think it is time that we say it out loud. School is
prison.
If you think school is not prison, please explain the
difference.
The only difference I can think of is that to get into prison
you have to commit a crime, but they put you in school just
because of your age. In other respects school and prison are the
same. In both places you are stripped of your freedom and
dignity. You are told exactly what you must do, and you are
punished for failing to comply. Actually, in school you must
spend more time doing exactly what you are told to do than is
true in adult prisons, so in that sense school is worse than
prison. [/quote]
HTML https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/200909/why-don-t-students-school-well-duhhhh
[quote]School is a prison -- and damaging our kids
Longer school years aren't the answer. The problem is school
itself. Compulsory teach-and-test simply doesn't work
Parents send their children to school with the best of
intentions, believing that’s what they need to become productive
and happy adults. Many have qualms about how well schools are
performing, but the conventional wisdom is that these issues can
be resolved with more money, better teachers, more challenging
curricula and/or more rigorous tests.
But what if the real problem is school itself? The unfortunate
fact is that one of our most cherished institutions is, by its
very nature, failing our children and our society.
School is a place where children are compelled to be, and where
their freedom is greatly restricted — far more restricted than
most adults would tolerate in their workplaces. In recent
decades, we have been compelling our children to spend ever more
time in this kind of setting, and there is strong evidence
(summarized in my recent book) that this is causing serious
psychological damage to many of them. Moreover, the more
scientists have learned about how children naturally learn, the
more we have come to realize that children learn most deeply and
fully, and with greatest enthusiasm, in conditions that are
almost opposite to those of school.[/quote]
HTML https://www.salon.com/2013/08/26/school_is_a_prison_and_damaging_our_kids/
[quote] The Culture of Childhood: We’ve Almost Destroyed It
Children learn the most valuable lessons with other children,
away from adults.
[...]
Adults began to see it as their duty to suppress children’s
natural willfulness, so as to promote obedience, which often
involved attempts to remove them from the influences of other
children and subordinate them to adult authority. The first
systems of compulsory schooling, which are the forerunners of
our schools today, arose quite explicitly for that purpose.
If there is a father of modern schools, it is the Pietist
clergyman August Hermann Francke, who developed a system of
compulsory schooling in Prussia, in the late 17th century, which
was subsequently copied and elaborated upon throughout Europe
and America. Francke wrote, in his instructions to
schoolmasters: “ Above all it is necessary to break the natural
willfulness of the child. While the schoolmaster who seeks to
make the child more learned is to be commended for cultivating
the child’s intellect, he has not done enough. He has forgotten
his most important task, namely that of making the will
obedient. ” Francke believed that the most effective way to
break children’s wills was through constant monitoring and
supervision. He wrote: “ Youth do not know how to regulate their
lives, and are naturally inclined toward idle and sinful
behavior when left to their own devices. For this reason, it is
a rule in this institution [the Prussian Pietist schools] that a
pupil never be allowed out of the presence of a supervisor. The
supervisor’s presence will stifle the pupil’s inclination to
sinful behavior, and slowly weaken his willfulness .” [Quoted by
Melton, 1988.]
We may today reject Francke’s way of stating it, but the
underlying premise of much adult policy toward children is still
in Francke’s tradition. In fact, social forces have conspired
now to put Francke’s recommendation into practice far more
effectively than occurred at Francke’s time or any other time in
the past. Parents have become convinced that it is dangerous and
irresponsible to allow children to play with other children,
away from adults, so restrictions on such play are more severe
and effective than they have ever been before. By increasing the
amount of time spent in school, expanding homework, harping
constantly on the importance of scoring high on school tests,
banning children from public spaces unless accompanied by an
adult, and replacing free play with adult-led sports and
lessons, we have created a world in which children are almost
always in the presence of a supervisor, who is ready to
intervene, protect, and prevent them from practicing courage,
independence, and all the rest that children practice best with
peers, away from adults. I have argued elsewhere (Gray, 2011,
and here ) that this is why we see record levels of anxiety,
depression, suicide, and feelings of powerlessness among
adolescents and young adults today.
The internet is the savior of children’s culture today
There is, however, one saving grace, one reason why we adults
have not completely crushed the culture of childhood. That’s the
Internet. We’ve created a world in which children are more or
less prevented from congregating in physical space without an
adult, but children have found another way. They get together in
cyberspace. They play games and communicate over the Internet.
They create their own rules and culture and ways of being with
others over the Internet. They mock adults and flout adult rules
over the Internet. [/quote]
HTML https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/201610/the-culture-childhood-we-ve-almost-destroyed-it
[quote]Through their influence upon the students, Halle became a
centre from which pietism became very widely diffused over
Germany. Under Francke's influence, Christian missionary efforts
were greatly enhanced,[7] zeal was aroused and recruits for
Christian missions were gained,[3][9] and Halle also became the
centre for Danish-Halle Mission to India.[10][11][/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Hermann_Francke
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: SirGalahad Date: May 6, 2021, 10:26 pm
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I distinctly remember the trauma of being forced to go to
school, for those first few years. It has affected me to such an
extent, that I actually remember my very first day of
kindergarten quite vividly, which is a memory that most people
would probably lose to time, or at the very least would melt
away into the general memory of kindergarten as a whole. I
completely broke down and started bawling, begging my mom not to
take me. Crying was a common occurrence for the first couple of
grades after kindergarten as well. At some point I just accepted
it, although my distaste for the schooling system never went
away, and followed me all the way until I graduated high school.
My mom did a pretty good job homeschooling me and providing me
with fun and educational material that required no coaxing or
force before I had to go to school, so it's more proof that the
current schooling system needs a severe overhaul, or at the very
least, it shouldn't be mandatory. If the government had allowed
children to go to school on their own terms, when they felt they
were ready, my mom would have probably chosen that, since she
still refuses to talk about how it all played out to this day,
out of the sheer guilt
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: guest5 Date: May 7, 2021, 12:23 am
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My kindergarten teachers in Germany used to drag us by our ears
when we "misbehaved". When my grandmother found out she went
down to the kindergarten and I never saw those two teachers
again. Not sure what happened. I was so absent my senior year of
high-school I almost did not graduate and had to attend
night-school during the summer in-order to get my diploma. I've
sworn that if I ever had a child they would never attend any
formal schooling and I would find a way to teach them anything
they ever wanted to know.
I've taught myself more than anything I've ever learned in a
Western school and that includes college....
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 7, 2021, 12:30 am
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"what we knew all along about the Western school system"
Yes, it is crucial to emphasize that compulsory schooling is
uniquely Western. All civilizations had schools, but no other
civilization had compulsory schooling. This means all of us who
have ever been forced to go to school are direct, personal
victims of Western initiated violence, inflicted upon us daily
for almost our entire childhood. This is what we need more
people to become Woke to. It is when we are conscious of this
that we better appreciate just how much more initiated violence
Western colonialism caused by making compulsory schooling a
worldwide phenomenon.
Awareness of compulsory schooling as initiated violence also
places the popular rightist talking point of "non-white"
students vandalizing classrooms etc. in a completely different
light: they are doing Ahimsa!
Attitude towards compulsory schooling is also one of the biggest
divides between False Leftists (who defend it as a "human right"
and as necessary for progress) and True Leftists (who condemn it
as torture), which proves False Leftists are Westerners. As True
Leftists, we must be careful to argue against compulsory
schooling NOT (as the Salon article does) on the grounds that
other learning methods are more efficient:
[quote]the more scientists have learned about how children
naturally learn, the more we have come to realize that children
learn most deeply and fully, and with greatest enthusiasm, in
conditions that are almost opposite to those of school.[/quote]
which is surrendering to False Left values (and also leaves us
cornered if it turns out this is untrue). Instead we must argue
that even if compulsory schooling is more efficient, without
which modernity would collapse, we would rather modernity
collapse ASAP than this constant violence initiated against
children continue for even a day longer. Moreover, to even be
searching for more efficient methods of learning is a mistake in
the first place, as it leads to:
HTML https://tofasakademi.com/neuralink-how-the-human-brain-will-download-directly-from-a-computer/
[quote]Neural Lace is a brain-computer interface technology that
could allow human brains to compete with Artificial Intelligence
(AI). Currently, Elon Musk [<<< IT'S ALWAYS HIM!!!] is funding
research toward the development of Neural Lace technology, this
is the emerging technology that could link human brains with
computers without the need of a physical connection.
This would be possible by implanting tiny electrodes into the
brain. The result would be the enhancement of memory and
cognitive powers by effectively merging humans and Artificial
Intelligence.
Elon Musk, who runs several successful companies, including
Tesla and SpaceX, has outlined his fears in several
opportunities saying that the rapid advancement in Artificial
Intelligence means that humans will either have to merge with
Artificial Intelligence at some point in the future or become
irrelevant. When he is asked about why he founded Neuralink he
responds saying that the “existential risk is too high not
to.”[/quote]
Musk's attitude is identical to that of Westernized "non-whites"
during the colonial era: "The rapid advancement in Western
countries means we have to adopt Western schooling quickly or
become irrelevant." No, the correct reaction in each case is not
to join the evil, but to destroy it.
[quote]If there is a father of modern schools, it is the Pietist
clergyman August Hermann Francke, who developed a system of
compulsory schooling in Prussia, in the late 17th century, which
was subsequently copied and elaborated upon throughout Europe
and America.[/quote]
Francke is without doubt one of the most evil people in history,
but compulsory schooling can be traced further back to two
people:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycurgus_of_Sparta
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_ben_Gamla
Post-Renaissance Western school is basically a hybrid of the
agoge and the yeshiva.
"I actually remember my very first day of kindergarten quite
vividly, which is a memory that most people would probably lose
to time, or at the very least would melt away into the general
memory of kindergarten as a whole. I completely broke down and
started bawling, begging my mom not to take me."
I have the same memory. NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
"she still refuses to talk about how it all played out to this
day"
You have a duty to confront her about it.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: Zea_mays Date: May 9, 2021, 1:15 am
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[quote]As True Leftists, we must be careful to argue against
compulsory schooling NOT (as the Salon article does) on the
grounds that other learning methods are more efficient:[/quote]
Indeed. Reading some of the other stuff by the same author, it
is so disappointing when he gets so close to having excellent
point after excellent point, but then ends up not being radical
enough to just reject Western attitudes completely. In his
writings, he also has a number of references to hunter-gatherer
societies, because I guess he thinks those are the most
dissimilar from the Western education system, by supposedly
allowing children to play and not have such rigidly structured
exams and adult supervision outside of school... (However,
anyone who has ever seen a documentary on hunter-gatherer
societies knows that, in reality, they frequently have strict
coming-of-age rituals and other restrictions on childhood).
Although I think overall many of his articles offer good points
that can be modified from False Left to True Left:
HTML https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn
By the way, has anyone ever had nightmares where you failed a
single class and have to repeat highschool all over again? Or
are stuck in a loop where you're late to class and don't know
where your locker or classroom is? Or anything like that? This
is a form of PTSD.
[quote]One hundred and twenty-eight readers responded to the
survey. In response to the question of the level of school
involved in their dreams, 73% mentioned high school, 34%
mentioned college, 12% elementary school, and 7% middle school
or junior high school. (These totals add to more than 100%
because some noted more than one setting for their recurring
dreams.) Here are the other main findings:
Nearly everyone rated their school dreams as unpleasant. Nobody
rated them as pleasant.
I asked people to rate the pleasantness of their recurring dream
on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 = very pleasant, 2 = somewhat
pleasant, 3 = neither pleasant nor unpleasant, or equally
pleasant and unpleasant, 4 = somewhat unpleasant, 5 = very
unpleasant.
None of the respondents rated their recurring dream as 1 or 2.
Only two respondents rated their recurring dream as a 3. One of
those two rated her dream as a 3 rather than a 4 or 5 only
because her “massive sense of relief” on realizing in the later
part of the dream that she had already finished school negated
the unpleasantness of the earlier part. All of the rest rated
their school dreams as a 4 or a 5, with the average being midway
between 4 and 5.
[...]
I asked the survey respondents to indicate the number of years
that had passed since they had last been a student in the kind
of school that was the setting of their recurrent dream. The
responses varied from about 5 years on up to about 60 years. On
the basis of those responses, I made guesses about the age of
each participant and found a range from 20 years up to 77 years
old, with most (72%) being in their 30s or 40s. Regardless of
age, respondents generally indicated that the dream had remained
pretty much the same over the years, though some indicated that,
with time, it had become less frequent and in some cases less
anxiety-provoking.
[/quote]
This is dripping with Western Civilization:
[quote]The third most common dream theme—after the
missed-class-all-semester and can’t-find-the-classroom themes—is
the theme of being forced, as an adult, to go back to high
school, or even elementary school, because of some bureaucratic
snafu or the discovery that the dreamer had failed to meet some
requirement. Twenty-one (17%) of the survey respondents reported
such a recurrent dream.[/quote]
HTML https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-learn/201606/they-dream-school-and-none-the-dreams-are-good
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: June 7, 2021, 12:29 am
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China's Confucianist attidue towards children on display:
HTML https://youtu.be/2X5MtCukMTk
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 15, 2021, 11:40 pm
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Someone begins to scratch the surface of the uniquely Western
violence of compulsory schooling:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9990835/Virginia-high-school-English-teacher-says-expecting-children-sit-quietly-White-Supremacy.html
[quote]Virginia high school English teacher faces calls to be
fired for claiming on video that telling kids to sit still is
'white supremacy'
...
HTML https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/14/22/47924591-9990835-image-a-42_1631653872137.jpg[/quote]
(Nice face shape too.)
Of course, this is still a long way from demanding an end to
compulsory schooling altogether. But it's a start.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 1, 2021, 9:55 pm
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Children vs Western infrastructure:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIcAuQGoKlI
Anyone on the side of Western infrastructure (e.g. Watson) is
part of the problem. To me this is the feel-good story of the
day.
And from the comments:
[quote]Stories about those kids sound exactly like kids I had to
deal with on a flight from Turkey. Parents letting them smear
the in-flight meals on the backs of the seats and windows,
running up and down the aisles screaming non-stop, even grabbing
me when I was trying to sleep. I was extremely tired after a 12
hour stopover, and after a few hours of this crap, I finally
complained to a flight attendant, and she just gave me this
appalled/shocked look and said, "sir! They are children!" As if
that made it alright. It's the normal attitude in so many of
those countries in the region, disciplining children is
completely unheard of. I know because the flight was my escape
from a teaching contract in a neighboring country-- every day
I'd come home with a searing headache, non-stop screaming and
chaos at the school, every single day. Co-teachers said the same
thing, "James, come on, they are children."[/quote]
The parts in bold are why we have to win this war.
(It goes without saying that James should not be allowed to
teach. Anyone want to try doxxing him?)
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: christianbethel Date: October 2, 2021, 10:48 pm
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[quote author=rp link=topic=45.msg600#msg600 date=1596150982]
BTW, what do you make of False Leftists who use the term
"childish" with a negative connotation, but nevertheless
reproduce? Aren't they essentially disparaging their own
offspring? How can we expect them to raise their child with love
when they hold contempt for its very existence? This type of
attitude, coupled with the fact that they identify as "white"
who obviously carry tribalist ancestry, makes my blood boil, and
under a National Socialist state, I would sentence them to
maximum punishment. For this alone I will fight to my death for
National Socialism.
Fortunately, as many "blacks" are moving to the True Left, they
are recognizing the true nature of these "Karen" parents, who,
far from being "loving mothers", exhibit the same attitude to
their children as they do to "non-whites" when they are
ethnically profiling them.
[/quote]
'Childish' ≠ 'Childlike'. 'Childish' talks about the
'negative' qualities of children; 'childlike' denotes the
positive qualities. You would do well to conflate 'childish'
with 'childlike' to acommodate your ideology.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: SirGalahad Date: October 2, 2021, 11:10 pm
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All we're pointing out is that in society, maturity is seen as a
positive while childishness is seen as a negative. In our
worldview, it would be the reverse. The goal isn't to become
more mature, it's to become more childish (or rather, remain
childish in the best case scenario). The fact that "childish" is
used as an insult, is problematic in any context. Mostly because
it:
1. Generalizes all children by virtue of them being children
alone, not taking into account that children vary widely in
behavior. We need to see them as individuals first and foremost.
2. Ignores the fact that adults can possess some of the negative
qualities attributed to children.
3. Amounts to victim blaming. Of course small children are prone
to cry or "throw fits". That's the proper reaction for someone
who hasn't had their emotional sensitivity stolen yet by the
world. It's not their fault that they were conceived against
their will, and born into a troubled world.
Or any combination of the above. The fact that the word "mature"
is basically NEVER used disparagingly should clue you in on the
issue here. If "childish" is a fair word to use, then how come
nobody ever says "Ugh, he's being so mature" whenever an adult
does something wrong? Surely adults possess negative qualities
as well.
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