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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: March 23, 2024, 9:43 am
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The tweet seems to be from the perspective of traditional gender
roles: mothers are better "nurturers". Given that we were just
discussing about mother being superior to fathers, how does our
position differ?
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: March 23, 2024, 2:42 pm
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Our position is that more neotenous individuals are better
nurterers. Our position happens to coincide with the enemy
tweeter's position in this case only because the pictured
individual man is low in neoteny. You yourself said:
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> trying to relate to them by speaking in "baby talk" but in
reality end up looking like retards
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You think women don't also do this?
We also never said that mothers are superior to fathers. We said
that children with incomplete information who have Oedipus
complex are superior to other children with similarly incomplete
information who do not have Oedipus complex:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg25343/#msg25343
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg25347/#msg25347
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: March 23, 2024, 11:27 pm
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"You think women don't also do this?"
I agree.
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 2, 2024, 1:39 am
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxn2n3yrWKI
Not only should the Collins be whipped to death, but so should
Uygur and Kasparian for even semi-defending the Collins.
Previous Collins coverage:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/exposing-people-with-the-western-darwinian-worldview/msg18931/?topicseen#msg18931
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/exposing-people-with-the-western-darwinian-worldview/msg24319/?topicseen#msg24319
Woke comments:
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> This may be the most cringe video you guys have ever made,
y’all trying to ride the middle line of this is so gross
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> Hell, Ana and you both confirmed “oh it happened to me, so now
I’m okay doing to children as well”.
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> The progressives. That's why people are turned off.
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> All their father and the rest of the freaks out there who
believe in this is telling the world and their children is that
you no longer matter you are nothing but a means to an end
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> btw, this family means they need to save the world is code for
"We need to have more CAUCASIANS."
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> The logic follows that if you could get charged with assault
for smacking an adult, then it should be illegal for smacking a
child. I'm extremely confident if that man "slapped" another
adult, they'd sue them for assault in America.
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> I would have done a night in jail if I could have slapped him
across the face and said, you gotta be nice in restaurants or
you’re gonna get bopped.
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> worse is reprimanding a person AND saying I love you in the
same instant send poor signals of learning and punishment.
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> If that’s what he does in public with a reporter present it’s
hard to think it’s not way worse at home.
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> If this guy is willing to do that in public in front of a
reporter, and then doubles down on it, just imagine what he’s
doing to those kids behind closed doors. Sorry, this should
actually be investigated. Those kids are quite likely in real
danger.
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> This is serious. A parent that strikes their 2yo child during
a RECORDED interview is a HUGE red flag for abuse. This is what
they think is ok when people are watching, imagine what they do
when people aren't watching. It sounds like these kids are being
abused. I hope DCFS gets involved.
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> Arrest this mean and miserable man.
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> Don't be your kids first bully.
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> My god!!!! Do NOT DO THIS!!!! DO NOT have a ton of
kids......ABSOLUTE WORST decision EVER
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> I am still waiting for anyone to be able to explain why the
birth rate going down is a bad thing.
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> Cenk, you are WRONG! In a world of rapidly diminishing
resources, plant & animal species EXTINCTION, etc...this you do
you is COMPLETE BULLSH*T! When another person's actions impacts
others,it most certainly is THEIR BUSINESS! YOUR family will
have LESS accessible to them due to narcissistic PIGS, like
these laissez-faire fktards.
> ...
> The FORCING of respect (yes sir/ma'am), that sh*t don't
fly...THAT is a parental CONTROL issue. Your kids AREN'T your
property & they don't owe you SQUAT!
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> Is Ana misinformed on this story? The Collins weren't/aren't
some couple promoting people in the US having more kids, they
first popped up b/c they believed it was their responsibility
(i.e. Malcolm and Simone) to have as many kids as possible to
stem the tied of foreigners coming into this country and taking
the collective IQ down. That's what their movement believes in,
that immigrants or people of a lower IQ shouldn't have kids or
mix with people that have 'high IQs'.
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> How about we create a world without disgusting rightwing
assholes?
> Sure, it's going to be ugly for a bit, but totally worth it.
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: June 10, 2024, 6:24 pm
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Aside from state control over reproduction, state control of
childcare is an important issue. Children are constantly ignored
and are excluded in traditional family environments. Slowly they
become accustomed to this behavior and emulating this same
behavior toward their younger siblings (as I found myself doing
without realizing, unfortunately).
I myself preferred my home environment, as most of the adults I
interacted with outside were even more adulterated and mean
toward me/children. There was also the fact that it was the best
alternative I had to compulsory schooling.
However, I remember I would become angry whenever other people
would come to my house. My mom remarked how even as a child, I
would cry whenever someone else entered the home. This is
perhaps because I was able to detect the initiated violence of
people being invited into my house without my consent. However,
much of my anger would be misdirected toward the invitees.
I now realize that it is my parents fault for inviting them. I
also now realize that my parents themselves were the ones who
had initiated violence against me by bringing me into this
world.
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: June 26, 2024, 8:56 pm
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Regarding hitting children, surely you would agree that certain
behavior warrants punishment? For example, I would consider
appropriate for a child who harms animals to be punished.
However, I would delegate the doling out of such punishment to
a centralized authority, as putting the parents in charge risks
corruption. Moreover, punishment by parents is almost always
done with the intention of altering the child's behavior, which
of course is no different than communist gulag torture.
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 26, 2024, 9:21 pm
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"I would consider appropriate for a child who harms animals to
be punished."
Of course! All who initiate violence should receive retaliatory
violence. I have praised such incidents in the past, for
example:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-ahimsa/msg7870/#msg7870
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: June 29, 2024, 8:00 am
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HTML https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/i-unschool-my-children-they-decide-what-they-want-to-learn-and-we-don-t-teach-them-anything/ar-BB1p0KHg?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6cad62add1414bf1ac8cdf0f00130668&ei=22
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 29, 2024, 4:34 pm
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> “Parents adopting this conception perceive rewards, threats,
evaluations, and planned sequential teaching as learning
disruptors,” wrote Canada-based study authors in a 2021
investigation into the long-term outcomes of unschooling.
>
> “These parents are also convinced that, when the child
acquires in-depth knowledge on a subject that interests them and
develops skills on their own,” said researchers, “all the
commitment, work habits, and effort put into attaining this
knowledge can then be transferred to another learning
objective.”
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Once again False Leftists are using the argument that
unschooling is preferable on the grounds that it is more
pedagogically efficient. What if this turns out not to be the
case? Unschooling then gets discarded. I previously discussed
this here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/childcare-issues/msg6195/#msg6195
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> As True Leftists, we must be careful to argue against
compulsory schooling NOT (as the Salon article does) on the
grounds that other learning methods are more efficient:
>
> [quote] the more scientists have learned about how children
naturally learn, the more we have come to realize that children
learn most deeply and fully, and with greatest enthusiasm, in
conditions that are almost opposite to those of school.
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which is surrendering to False Left values (and also leaves us
cornered if it turns out this is untrue). Instead we must argue
that even if compulsory schooling is more efficient, without
which modernity would collapse, we would rather modernity
collapse ASAP than this constant violence initiated against
children continue for even a day longer.[/quote]
In general, False Leftists always rely on the line of
argumentation that whatever they are trying to promote is a more
efficient method than the traditional Western method for
achieving what Western civilization wants to achieve. Thus they
keep setting up returns to Western tradition upon their claims
being disproven.
We must always stick to the True Left argument that unschooling
is preferable to compulsory* schooling on purely ethical
grounds, even if it is less pedagogically efficient.
In short, False Left arguments are intended to appeal to
Westerners, whereas True Left arguments are intended to appeal
to anti-Westerners.
(* Note that we do not necessarily consider unschooling
preferable to genuinely voluntary schooling. If children
themselves voluntarily disciple themselves to a teacher whose
teaching style involves a structured syllabus rather than to
another teacher whose teaching style does not involve a
structured syllabus, there is no problem because no violence has
been initiated.)
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Re: Childcare Issues
DIR By: rp
Date: July 1, 2024, 4:13 am
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Interesting thing I noticed: some Indian parents try to enforce
Aryan ideals like not killing insects using "child rearing"
methods. Perhaps because their stance is based on virtue theory
(not killing insects in their eyes is a "virtue" (for which they
will be rewarded in the afterlife). Consequence of using a Vedic
ontological framework for Aryan ethics?
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