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Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: July 9, 2020, 7:28 pm
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16 signs of bad parenting
HTML https://www.momjunction.com/articles/everything-need-know-bad-parenting_00256/
The first fucking one on the list:
[quote]1. The child is reprimanded even if he spoke the truth:
The child did something wrong and acknowledged it, nevertheless,
you scold him for committing a mistake. And you have forgotten
that he was courageous enough to be truthful.
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It is no surprise that such paternalistic attitudes are
replicated in the False Left, who castigate anyone that dares
speak the truth about taboo subjects.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 9, 2020, 11:56 pm
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To clarify, the linked article itself does not necessarily
promote childcare attitudes that we endorse. To use your excerpt
as an example:
[quote]The child did something wrong and acknowledged it,
nevertheless, you scold him for committing a mistake. And you
have forgotten that he was courageous enough to be
truthful.[/quote]
"Wrong"/"mistake" according to whom? The wording appears to
suggest that the child is using the parent's definition of
"wrong". This is the real problem.
Most importantly, the article claims towards the end that cruel
parenting causes children to become socially unsuccessful
adults. This itself is a False Left position. The True Left
position (in academic agreement with our enemies the
traditionalists) is that cruel parenting (by thoroughly killing
Original Nobility) causes children to become (morally
desensitized and hence) socially successful adults. Our
disagreement with traditionalists is that we argue that social
success is no justification for moral desensitization, and more
generally that no amount of future benefits for the adult that
the child will become can justify present cruelty to the child
as a child.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: July 30, 2020, 6:16 pm
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BTW, what do you make of False Leftists who use the term
"childish" with a negative connotation, but nevertheless
reproduce? Aren't they essentially disparaging their own
offspring? How can we expect them to raise their child with love
when they hold contempt for its very existence? This type of
attitude, coupled with the fact that they identify as "white"
who obviously carry tribalist ancestry, makes my blood boil, and
under a National Socialist state, I would sentence them to
maximum punishment. For this alone I will fight to my death for
National Socialism.
Fortunately, as many "blacks" are moving to the True Left, they
are recognizing the true nature of these "Karen" parents, who,
far from being "loving mothers", exhibit the same attitude to
their children as they do to "non-whites" when they are
ethnically profiling them.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: guest5 Date: July 30, 2020, 9:02 pm
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[quote author=rp link=topic=45.msg600#msg600 date=1596150982]
BTW, what do you make of False Leftists who use the term
"childish" with a negative connotation, but nevertheless
reproduce? Aren't they essentially disparaging their own
offspring? How can we expect them to raise their child with love
when they hold contempt for its very existence? This type of
attitude, coupled with the fact that they identify as "white"
who obviously carry tribalist ancestry, makes my blood boil, and
under a National Socialist state, I would sentence them to
maximum punishment. For this alone I will fight to my death for
National Socialism.
Fortunately, as many "blacks" are moving to the True Left, they
are recognizing the true nature of these "Karen" parents, who,
far from being "loving mothers", exhibit the same attitude to
their children as they do to "non-whites" when they are
ethnically profiling them.
[/quote]
I for one can honestly state I've never used the word "childish"
to insult an adult or anyone for that matter, so I had actually
never given the use of the word that much thought and analysis
until I met 90RF. Once I actually thought it through and became
aware of how the word was being used it started to make my blood
boil also. Now-a-days as soon as I hear an adult use the word
"childish" to put down another adult I instantly lose all
respect for that adult. After witnessing how western adults use
that word to attempt to insult Trump over the last four plus
years, as if they are so superior to him for no other reason
than the fact that they too are just as adulterated as Trump
himself is, I wouldn't even bat an eyelid if I saw you rounding
them up and loading them onto a freight car in your National
Socialist state. Just imagining how psychologically damaging
that is to children is enough to make me want to choke one of
these western adults to death....
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2020, 1:09 am
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[member=2]rp[/member]
"what do you make of False Leftists who use the term "childish"
with a negative connotation, but nevertheless reproduce? Aren't
they essentially disparaging their own offspring?"
Many False Leftists that I have encountered are obsessed with
the action of experiencing. They consider reproduction, as well
as raising children, to be particular experiences that they want
to try out as a way to enrich their own lives, without concern
for the initiated violence against the children involved. To the
extent that they attempt to justify their decision, they claim
they are giving their offspring a chance to experience stuff in
turn. Of course they would not apply such despicable reasoning
to initiating violence against people who already exist (e.g.
"I'm going to punch you in the face to give you a chance to
experience being punched in the face! It doesn't matter that you
never asked for it! You should thank me anyway! (And maybe later
you can have your turn to punch someone else in the face!)").
The negative connotation they attach to "childishness" goes back
to the same attitude: experiencing lots of stuff is good, so
children are inferior because they have experienced less stuff,
and the way to improve them is by increasing the variety of
their experiences (again, whether the children themselves want
it or not). Don't get me started on all the classes/camps/etc.
that False Leftist parents often sign up their offspring for!
"How can we expect them to raise their child with love when they
hold contempt for its very existence?"
I do not expect them to do so. As soon as we have eliminated
rightist bloodlines, they will be next.
@NS
"After witnessing how western adults use that word to attempt to
insult Trump over the last four plus years"
You know what I'm fearing will happen post-Trump? If Trump goes
down in history as a villain (which of course he should), I'm
then worried that when future children express their Original
Nobility, these same adults who today (inaccurately) call Trump
"childish" will then (just as inaccurately) say to children:
"Stop being so Trumpish!" We have so much work to do.....
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: July 31, 2020, 1:44 am
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“Don't get me started on all the classes/camps/etc. that False
Leftist parents often sign up their offspring for!”
Thankfully, my (non-Western) parents were critical of these
attitudes among other parents. It may have something to do with
them being “r type” selection parents.
“They consider reproduction, as well as raising children, to be
particular experiences that they want to try out as a way to
enrich their own lives, without concern for the initiated
violence against the children involved.”
Well guess what, other living beings aren’t yours to
“experiment” with for your pleasure. But when presented with
this they will accuse you of being a “totalitarian” who wants to
restrict their “freedom” of having a child... Then again, what
can you expect from those who belong to a civilization that has
literally experimented with non-human animals for several
millennia.
“ I do not expect them to do so. As soon as we have eliminated
rightist bloodlines, they will be next.”
Contrast this to True Leftists, who (either consciously or
subconsciously) recognize they possess tribalist ancestry and
thus choose to raise step/adopted children, whom they raise with
infinitely more love and care, possibly even more than “r-type”
selection parents (including mine).
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2020, 4:36 am
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"True Leftists, who (either consciously or subconsciously)
recognize they possess tribalist ancestry and thus choose to
raise step/adopted children"
It's not even about fear of one's own ancestry, but just simple
awareness that orphans (who are also likely to possess tribalist
ancestry) presently exist who need care. It's the same logic as
adopting existing homeless dogs etc. rather than having new ones
bred specifically for you.
"whom they raise with infinitely more love and care, possibly
even more than “r-type” selection parents"
I'm not sure why you say "even". r-strategists are far from good
parents in an absolute sense. They are only better than
K-strategists under the (highly realistic) assumption that both
types tend to prioritize the adults that the children will
become over the children themselves, whereupon the r-strategists
(who characteristically invest less effort into each offspring
due to the greater total number of offspring) will be expected
to initiate less violence on each child (though not necessarily
less violence in total) compared to K-strategists.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: July 31, 2020, 9:29 am
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"It's not even about fear of one's own ancestry,"
What about those that choose to become step-parents though?
"I'm not sure why you say "even"."
Well there are some non-Aryan "foster" parents, which is what I
was getting at, but in the context of True Leftist parents, you
are correct.
"They are only better than K-strategists under the (highly
realistic) assumption that both types tend to prioritize the
adults that the children will become over the children
themselves, whereupon the r-strategists (who characteristically
invest less effort into each offspring due to the greater total
number of offspring) will be expected to initiate less violence
on each child (though not necessarily less violence in total)
compared to K-strategists."
Ok. I was merely trying to make a distinction between Western
and non-Western parents using r/k selection theory, and I
assumed that non-Western and Western parents are r and k
strategists respectively, but this is not necessarily always
true though, is it? But in any case, would you agree that
non-Western parents are at least somewhat better than Western
parents?
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 31, 2020, 4:19 pm
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"What about those that choose to become step-parents though?"
They often believe in the superiority of a two-parent family, a
traditionalist position. To be fair, they are not genetically
selfish, but when the children themselves never asked for a
step-parent (but often have no choice but to accept the
step-parent becoming part of their lives as a result of the
decision made unilaterally by the biological parent), their
intrusion is additional initiated violence. (At least orphans
have an option to refuse adoption.)
"I assumed that non-Western and Western parents are r and k
strategists respectively, but this is not necessarily always
true though, is it?:
This is highly untrue. Colonialism enabled the colonial powers
to combine high offspring number with high investment into each
offspring, thus gaining the advantages of both r and K
simultaneously. Western boarding schools are one of the most
cruel examples of this phenomenon:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boarding_school
[quote]The classic British boarding school became highly popular
during the colonial expansion of the British Empire. British
colonial administrators abroad could ensure that their children
were brought up in British culture at public schools at home in
the UK, and local rulers were offered the same education for
their sons. More junior expatriates would send their children to
local British-run schools, which would also admit selected local
children who might travel from considerable distances. The
boarding schools, which inculcated their own values, became an
effective way to encourage local people to share British ideals,
and so help the British achieve their imperial goals.
One of the reasons sometimes stated for sending children to
boarding schools is to develop wider horizons than their family
can provide. A boarding school a family has attended for
generations may define the culture parents aspire to for their
children. Equally, by choosing a fashionable boarding school,
parents may aspire to better their children by enabling them to
mix on equal terms with children of the upper classes.[/quote]
"would you agree that non-Western parents are at least somewhat
better than Western parents?"
I warn against generalization. I agree that the spread of
Western civilization increased by orders of magnitude the
institutionally initiated violence that children were subjected
to (e.g. compulsory schooling, a uniquely Western institution).
But whether or not individual parents' attitudes towards
children would have been better had they never been exposed to
Western civilization is much harder to say, and would have to be
judged case by case anyway. I believe it is more likely that
parents of any civilization will persistently tend to act in the
interests of the adults that they intend the children to become
(as opposed to the interests of the children themselves), and
therefore that the difference between Western and non-Western in
the context of parenting is merely a difference between what
they estimate will give the future adults the biggest
advantages, which in turn is based on what options are available
in reality.
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Re: Childcare Issues
By: rp Date: July 31, 2020, 4:59 pm
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"is merely a difference between what they estimate will give the
future adults the biggest advantages,"
Ok. So its just that the Western estimate happens to involve
much more violence. Hence why Jewish and Gentile (i.e. "White")
parents are the primary targets of our criticism, and who are
also deserving of state punishment.
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