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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 22, 2023, 4:02 pm
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There could be an additional mechanism at work: "non-white"
females seeing "white" females prefer "white" males and hence
copying the "white" females whose judgement is presumed to be
better than that of "non-white" females.
I suspect that if two males (irrespective of ethnicity) were
equally popular numerically among females, but one is more
popular with "white" females, that one will be preferred by
psychologically colonized female mate choice copiers. It could
even be that the one who is less popular overall, but more
popular with "white" females, will be preferred by
psychologically colonized female mate choice copiers. And we
already know that, in reality, the "white" female preference for
"white" males is the strongest of all:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/psychological-decolonization/msg8954/#msg8954
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Subjectively, a psychologically colonized "non-white" female
perceives a "white" male as a male belonging to "white" females,
so if she can successfully 'steal' him, she perceives herself as
rising in status to the level of a "white" female, which is what
she (consciously or subconsciously) aspires to do. She then
perceives herself as (and behaves as if she is) superior to
"non-white" females who do not have a "white" male spouse. This
then further agitates other psychologically colonized
"non-white" females who interact with her into also getting
"white" male spouses of their own in order to 'catch up'.
Does this phenomenon also occur among psychologically colonized
"non-white" males? Probably! (Certainly I have seen "non-white"
males with "white" female spouses behave as if they are superior
to "non-white" males who lack a "white" female spouse.)
""guarding" women from external influences, similar to what you
prescribed"
In what I was referring to, neither men nor women (except the
matchmakers) would have access to the information about who is
popular, so it's not a case of women systematically being
informationally restricted relative to men. Historically, the
matchmakers themselves were often (older) women.
#Post#: 21071--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: July 22, 2023, 11:59 pm
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And then the Aryan females will follow the lead of the non-Aryan
Eurocentrism females, since the non-Aryans (who outnumber the
Aryans) have now boosted the popularity of the "White" male.
#Post#: 21072--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 23, 2023, 12:59 am
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Unless they are self-aware of their own racial superiority
(which is what we are aiming at). For example, if an Aryan
female is able to perceive that most females are racially
inferior to herself, hopefully she will connect the dots and
conclude that that popular male is popular merely with the
racially inferior, and thus herself avoid copying them.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: July 26, 2023, 4:03 am
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Mate choice copying also explains the 80-20 rule. Now normally,
this wouldn't be a problem, as we would expect a good chunk of
the 80 percent to be inferior anyway, and this would simply mean
the inferior women being paired with the inferior men. But now
we have the added problem of Eurocentrism, as well as (due to
the Western glorification of high sexual dimorphism) low sexual
dimorphism women preferring high sexual dimorphism men. While
the low sexual dimorphism women would have practiced mate choice
copying before Westernization, the top 20% would have included a
greater amount of low sexual dimorphism men, since sexual
dimorphism would not have been glorified much. This would have
resulted in appropriate pairings for low sexual dimorphism women
even if they themselves belonged to the 80 percent of mate
choice copiers.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 12, 2023, 11:02 pm
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Theory:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/mate-choice-copying/msg21061/#msg21061
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> There could be an additional mechanism at work: "non-white"
females seeing "white" females prefer "white" males and hence
copying the "white" females whose judgement is presumed to be
better than that of "non-white" females.
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confirmed (I guarantee the "friends abroad" in the first comment
are "white"; the second comment makes it explicit):
HTML https://incels.is/threads/3600-comments-of-white-worship-and-ricecel-hate-by-japwhores.525592/
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#Post#: 22572--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 3, 2023, 8:52 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rachel-bilson-thinks-weird-single-154350115.html
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> Rachel Bilson is cautious about, hypothetically, dating a
middle-aged man who hasn’t had a higher number of sexual
partners.
> ...
> the actress noted that if a man’s number of sexual partners
was “really low” when he hits his 40s, it would be a “little
weird” — while also acknowledging it wasn’t “fair” of her to
make that judgment.
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> Bilson further admitted that she used to ask her partners
about how many people they had been intimate with in the past
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Does mate choice copying correlate positively with other high
sexual dimorphism preferences?
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> Following her breakup from Hader, 45, Bilson quipped on a
March 2022 episode of her podcast that she was going to miss the
actor’s “big d–k.”
> ...
> Bilson revealed in May that she was fired from a gig after
sharing she wanted to be “manhandled” in the bedroom.
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About Bilson:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Bilson
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> Categories ... American people of English-Jewish descent
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 25, 2023, 8:46 pm
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Enemy discussion:
HTML https://incels.is/threads/incel-science-mind-blowing-theory-on-female-desire.538514/
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> Women actually have no idea what IS and ISN'T attractive. They
are simply going off what other women tell them is attractive.
And this makes perfect sense evolutionarily.
> ...
> what qualities do you want your male offspring to have, those
are the qualities your going to search in your mate. Well,
there's the obvious ones; physically healthy etc.. but the most
obvious one is this: HE is liked well sexually by other women.
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> IF you mate with a guy that is liked well by other women; and
your male child inherits that genetic 'trait'... then as a woman
you have the golden ticket and your genes are now likely to be
massively distributed. Thus the 'preference' for liking guys
that are liked by other women ITSELF will get massively
distributed; and that IS what's happened.
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> Women are not picking guys other women like because he has
good reviews or something. Instead; the women that picked guys
that other women liked... had chad son's that other women liked
(just like their dad) and thus ended up giving her hundreds of
grandkids.
>
> Whereas the women that DIDN'T have this genetic preference.
> ...
> other women DIDN'T like their sons; so they got a LOT less
offspring, and their genes died out.
>
> Pretty soon ALL surviving women specifically and on a genetic
level like men that other women like.
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This is just:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
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> The theory will function regardless of the physical or
behavioral trait a female chooses, as long as it is heritable
(that is, the trait varies between individuals of the
population), because it is possessing the trait that makes males
attractive, and not the qualities of the trait in itself. Once a
preference becomes established, females choosing males with
elaborate secondary sexual traits will produce sons that carry
alleles for the trait and produce daughters that carry alleles
for the preference, generating genetic coupling that will drive
self-reinforcing coevolution of both trait and preference, due
to the mating advantage of males with the trait, creating a
Fisherian runaway sexy sons process.[8]
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What I will add is that, from my own observation, women who have
better (by our standards) taste in men tend to only be found
among the subset of women who have decided to voluntarily
refrain from reproducing in the first place, thus in one motion
sweeping aside all of the above into irrelevance. Similarly, men
who have better (by our standards) taste in women are frequently
those among the subset of men who have decided to voluntarily
refrain from reproducing. It is the decision to voluntarily
refrain from reproducing that detaches us from Yahweh's
enslavement (ie. all of the above) and reconnects us with God's
world of aesthetical absolutism.
(Needless to say, natural selection (a.k.a. Yahweh's tyranny)
then ensures good taste is almost never transmitted to the next
generation. This is why we need National Socialism.)
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: April 16, 2024, 7:57 pm
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#Post#: 26547--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: May 24, 2024, 12:52 am
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I think attraction towards one's father (Electra complex) is a
form of mate choice copying. This is why you see girls with
vegetarian mothers and meat eating fathers become sexually
attracted to meat eaters themselves, even if the mother herself
does not prefer meat eaters (but instead had merely lowered her
standards when she got married). It does not matter to the
daughter that the mother has lowered her standards, all she sees
is that her mother selected her father and thus he must be a
worthy mate.
However, this is not always bad. For example, a woman who has a
vegetarian father may become attracted to vegetarian men, as she
sees her father as a role model.
The only problem with the latter scenario is that it may lead to
some women with non Aryan blood merely choosing vegetarian men
because the latter are more popular.
#Post#: 26549--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: May 24, 2024, 1:08 am
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Of course, Electra complex could simply be a form of creator
worship. The daughter perceives her father as a worthy mate
because he was able to conceive her.
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