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Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 29, 2021, 1:56 am
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www.discovermagazine.com/mind/evolution-could-explain-why-having-a-girlfriend-makes-men-more-attractive#.XaD6JmYRVPY
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> females save time and energy finding a worthy mate by
selecting one previously picked by others.
> ...
> Females can try to assess male genes and paternal attributes
based on physical or behavioral clues, like shiny coats or sexy
mating dances. Or they can skip the search entirely and pick
partners previously deemed mate-worthy by others.
>
> For decades, biologists theorized that mate choice copying
existed and observed it anecdotally. But the first direct
evidence came from studies on guppy fish conducted in the 1990s.
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> Researchers allowed guppy gals to choose between males plopped
in their tanks. Generally, they picked mates based on size, tail
length and coloration — vibrant orange being the most favored.
That was, until scientists added a Plexiglas partition
permitting a fish to watch another pair’s courtship (in guppy
love, females glide along as males shimmy, body arched in an
S-shape). Afterwards, the observer female often selected the
previously courted male, even if a brighter-orange fish was
available. If a drab male was initially courted for a longer
duration or by multiple females, his chances of being picked
increased even more.
> ...
> Experiments to detect mate copying in humans generally go like
this: Researchers ask participants to rate the attractiveness or
desirability of a person shown in photos with or without an
apparent romantic partner.
> ...
> the data we do have suggest that being with a woman —
particularly a beautiful one thought to be the significant other
— does increase a man’s appeal in the minds of female
evaluators. In a 2018 review, 16 out of 18 studies found adding
a presumed romantic partner to a man’s photo made other women
score him as more attractive or desirable than the same man
solo. Additionally, the studies that varied the beauty of the
female partner found that making her more attractive also
increased his score.
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Policywise, those who practice mate choice copying should not be
allowed to reproduce. Only after we are left with a population
comprised of those who do not practice mate choice copying can
we accurately and thoroughly prohibit reproduction of those who
prefer non-Aryan traits.
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Are you aware of the 80/20 rule? (i.e. 80 percent of women match
up with the top 20% of men):
www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/b21ksk/8020_confirmed_by_tinder_again/
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 30, 2021, 1:14 am
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You would think reading stuff like this alone would detour most
people from finding a 'mate' and reproducing. Sad!!! If
you do feel that way after reading stuff like this you can thank
nature and Yahweh for all of it!
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 23, 2022, 9:46 pm
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Purely for entertainment:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWIKNw_ikE
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Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
DIR By: rp
Date: July 7, 2023, 6:33 am
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But since Mate Choice copying is a non-Aryan trait itself, these
women would be non Aryan, right?
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Re: Re: Sexual Dimorphism Preferences
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 7, 2023, 1:48 pm
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Can you outline a mechanism for how mate choice copying would be
selected against under Neolithic subsistence farming conditions?
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: July 7, 2023, 6:00 pm
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I was referencing this quote from your post:
[Quote]
Policywise, those who [b]practice mate choice copying should not
be allowed to reproduce. [/B]Only after we are left with a
population comprised of those who do not practice mate choice
copying can we accurately and thoroughly prohibit reproduction
of those who prefer non-Aryan traits.
[/Quote]
Which I assumed implied that those individuals would be non
Aryan
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 7, 2023, 9:04 pm
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The reason why those who practice mate choice copying should not
be allowed to reproduce is because they confuse the picture of
who is making which choices for what reasons. Mate choice
copying makes it harder for us to see who is Aryan and who is
not. This does not imply that the mate choice copiers themselves
are unanimously non-Aryan.
Being a pre-Neolithic (indeed pre-human) trait, mate choice
copying is certainly not a trait that emerged from the Neolithic
subsistence farming lifestyle, so I agree it is not of Aryan
origin, but as far as I can tell, there is no clear indication
that this lifestyle selected against it either.
I have even speculated that this lifestyle might have introduced
a form of mate choice copying among men also. I have noticed
that low-sexual-dimorphism men tend to idolize female
celebrities more devotedly than high-sexual-dimorphism men. I
trace it back to:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-monarchism/
comparing it to male bees/ants/etc. pursuing the same queen that
all the other males are also chasing (which favours those with
low sperm production, since the less energy spent on producing
sperm, the more can be spent on chasing the queen, success in
which is what enables the sperm to be used at all), in contrast
to males of less monarchist species whose reproductive strategy
is based on indiscriminately impregnating a large number of
females (which obviously favours those with high sperm
production, since this enables more impregnations). What do you
think?
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: July 7, 2023, 9:18 pm
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I agree. But in the case of Aryan females, if it is not
necessarily biology that causes mate choice copying, then what
is it? Environment? Then hypothetically, couldn't these females
unlearn it? Or if it is biology, then wouldn't that imply that
all Aryan females should be prohibited from reproducing?
And what about Aryan males? Since you have theorized that there
is a biological basis for mate choice copying among them,
shouldn't they theoretically be prohibited from reproducing
also?
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 7, 2023, 10:02 pm
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Another possibility is to circumvent mate choice copying by
suppressing information about who is popular. There have been
eras when high-class people did not go on outdoor dates and
instead relied on professional matchmakers to set up indoor
dates, such that no one except the matchmakers themselves would
have known who was popular. Thus (unless they were bribing the
matchmakers to disclose the information!) people would have had
to go by their own judgement. If we were to adapt this system,
matchmakers should be state employees for best results.
The male version is actually an improvement, since it reduces
their sexual dimorphism. We should definitely prohibit all the
scatter-impregnators from reproducing first before we even start
worrying about which of the queen-chasers are chasing the queen
only because they see others doing so and which because they are
independently arriving at the same conclusion.
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Re: Mate choice copying
DIR By: rp
Date: July 21, 2023, 11:11 pm
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Female mate choice copying could explain perhaps why
reproductive Eurocentrism is stronger among "non-White" females
than males. Since reproductive Eurocentrism has been established
to have some biological basis in preference for high sexual
dimorphism, and we have also established that women who prefer
high sexual dimorphism outnumber women who prefer low sexual
dimorphism, it follows that even low-sexual dimorphism
preferring women would fall prey to Eurocentrism.
Among men, however, the extent of the effects of mate choice
copying are minor (i.e. light skinned low sexual dimorphism
celebrities being promoted more than dark skinned ones, due to
the former being more popular among the general (I.e. mixed
blood) populace).
This is why I believe many ancient philosophers stressed the
importance of "guarding" women from external influences, similar
to what you prescribed with regard to mate choice copying.
What do you think?
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