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Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European people
DIR By: guest30
Date: January 27, 2021, 7:14 am
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I read some blog posts on your website, and you always have a
negative view of the people of Eastern Europe and Russia, you
need to remember that when World War 2 ended, people that
colonized by Western European countries (UK, United States,
Portugal, Belgium, the Netherlands and France) tried to fight
colonialism and achieve freedom, and Russia and Eastern European
bloc countries were the first countries to provide assistance to
them in form of economic and military assistance to a colonized
country or kingdom, for example, Soviet provided military
assistance to North Korea to fight against the West in the
1950s, provided assistance to Vietnam during the war from 1960
to 1970, provided economic and military assistance to Indonesia
in the 1950s to counter Dutch colonialists
And this is another good information about anti racist and anti
colonialist action from Russia
After 1953, the continent underwent a rapid process of
decolonization, whereby nearly all the colonies became
independent nations. However, The nationalist movement was led
by the better educated young middle-class that had little
exposure to communism or socialism.[2] Soviet leaders, beginning
with Nikita Khrushchev, were excited by the enthusiastic young
black Africans who first came to Moscow for a major youth
festival in 1957. Patrice Lumumba Peoples' Friendship University
was established in Moscow in 1960 to provide higher education to
students from developing countries. It became an integral part
of the Soviet cultural offensive in nonaligned countries.[3]
The Kremlin saw an opportunity, and established four foreign
policy goals regarding Africa. First it wanted a lasting
presence on the continent, including port facilities in the
Indian Ocean. Second it wanted to gain a voice in African
affairs, primarily by supporting local communist parties, and
providing economic and military aid to the governments. Third it
wanted to undermine Western/NATO influence. However the Kremlin
was reluctant to send Soviet troops because of its fear of a
major escalation with NATO powers. Fidel Castro sent 300,000
Cuban troops to Africa to support fellow revolutionaries against
Western imperialism. The Kremlin thought Castro's adventurism
was dangerous but it was unable to stop him.[4] And finally,
after 1962, it was engaged in a bitter controversy with China
for influence and control of local radical movements.[5]
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations
And this is example of propaganda photo from Soviet Russia
officials to support colonized and oppressed African people
Source :
HTML https://twitter.com/HOCommunism/status/918185448178094080
Why Aryanism has more hate to the Eastern Europeans? You should
more hate and condemn Western Europeans, and give more support
and appreciation to Russia
And also, Russia is ever try to be anti Jewish country, this is
the information from the most trusted world knowledge website,
Wikipedia...
Soviet anti-Zionism was a propaganda doctrine promulgated in the
Soviet Union during the course of the Cold War, which
intensified after the 1967 Six-Day War. It was officially
sponsored by the department of propaganda of the Communist Party
of the Soviet Union and by the KGB. It alleged that Zionism was
a form of racism, and argued that Zionists were similar to
Nazis. The Soviet Union framed its anti-Zionist propaganda in
terms of the ideological doctrine of Zionology, in the guise of
a study of modern Zionism.[1]
.......
The official position of the Soviet Union and its satellite
states and agencies was that Zionism was a tool used by the Jews
and Americans for "racist imperialism." The meaning of the term
Zionism was defined by the ruling Communist Party of the Soviet
Union: "the main posits of modern Zionism are militant
chauvinism, racism, anti-Communism and anti-Sovietism... overt
and covert fight against freedom movements and the USSR."[6]
In his book A History of the Jews in the Modern World, Howard
Sachar argues that the atmosphere of the Soviet "anti-Zionist"
campaign in the wake of the Six-Day War was anti-Semitic, and
even compares it to Nazism:
"In late July 1967, Moscow launched an unprecedented propaganda
campaign against Zionism as a "world threat." Defeat was
attributed not to tiny Israel alone, but to an "all-powerful
international force." ... In its flagrant vulgarity, the new
propaganda assault soon achieved Nazi-era characteristics. The
Soviet public was saturated with racist canards. Extracts from
Trofim Kichko's notorious 1963 volume, Judaism Without
Embellishment, were extensively republished in the Soviet media.
Yuri Ivanov's Beware: Zionism, a book essentially replicated The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion, was given nationwide
coverage."[7]
A similar picture was drawn by Paul Johnson:
the mass media "all over the Soviet Union portrayed the Zionists
(i.e. Jews) and Israeli leaders as engaged in a world-wide
conspiracy along the lines of the old Protocols of Zion. It was,
Sovietskaya Latvia wrote 5 August 1967, an 'international Cosa
Nostra with a common centre, common programme and common
funds'".[8]
The Israeli government was also referred to as a "terrorist
regime" which "has raised terror to the level of state
politics." Even regarding the Entebbe hostage crisis, Soviet
media reported: "Israel committed an act of aggression against
Uganda, assaulting the Entebbe airport."[9]
Paul Johnson and other historians have also argued that United
Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 of 10 November 1975
that equated "Zionism" with "racism" was orchestrated by the
Soviet Union. Resolution 3379 was pioneered by the Soviet Union
and passed with numerical support from Arab, Muslim and African
states amidst accusations that Israel was supportive of the
apartheid regime in South Africa.[10] Though ten days before the
Dissolution of the Soviet Union, Soviet sponsored United Nations
General Assembly Resolution 46/86 was adopted on 16 December
1991 which revoked the determination in Resolution 3379.[11]
On 1 April 1983, official newspaper of the Communist Party of
the Soviet Union, Pravda, ran a full front-page article titled
From the Soviet Leadership:
"...By its nature, Zionism concentrates ultra-nationalism,
chauvinism and racial intolerance, excuse for territorial
occupation and annexation, military opportunism, cult of
political promiscuousness and irresponsibility, demagogy and
ideological diversion, dirty tactics and perfidy... Absurd are
attempts of Zionist ideologists to present criticizing them, or
condemning the aggressive politics of the Israel's ruling
circles, as antisemitic... We call on all Soviet citizens:
workers, peasants, representatives of intelligentsia: take
active part in exposing Zionism, strongly rebuke its endeavors;
social scientists: activate scientific research to criticize
reactionary core of that ideology and aggressive character of
its political practice; writers, artists, journalists: fuller
expose anti-populace and anti-humane diversionary character of
propaganda and politics of Zionism..."
.......
Another fact about the secret connection between Hitler regime
with the Jewish congress :
Another recurring Zionology theme was the allegation of secret
ties between the Nazis and the Zionist leadership. The thesis of
1982 doctoral dissertation of Mahmoud Abbas, a co-founder of
Fatah and one of the leaders of the Palestine Liberation
Organization and President of the Palestinian National Authority
who earned his Ph.D. in history at the Oriental College in
Moscow, was The Secret Connection between the Nazis and the
Leaders of the Zionist Movement.[12][13] According to HNN,
"Abbas claimed in his work that the Zionist leadership was
interested in convincing the world that a large number of Jews
were killed during the war in order to “attain larger gains”
after the war and to "divide the booty." Abbas’ primary claim in
his thesis is that the Zionist movement and its various branches
worked hand in hand with the Nazis against the Jewish people,
collaborating with them for the Jews’ destruction because the
Zionist leaders viewed “Palestine” as the only legitimate place
for Jewish immigration."[14] The doctoral thesis was published
as a book in 1984 under the title The Other Side: The Secret
Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism.[15]
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_anti-Zionism
#Post#: 3718--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 27, 2021, 12:45 pm
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> Nevertheless, in the context of civilization, the writings of
Alexander Dugin are concerned with ‘identity’ because various
nations around the world are perplexed with their national
identity.[2] The identity-puzzled nations search for their
identity in the history of foreign nations without knowing
anything about their ethno-genesis and anthropology. Thus, in
case of Russia, for Dugin, it harbors the multi-ethnic
communities of the Eurasian steppes and is a symbol of
collective identity — the pure identitarian state.[3]
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://medium.com/the-new-philosophical-beginning/alexander-dugins-approaches-to-the-history-of-civilizations-5c1b1e87a8f1
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> The Identitarian movement or Identitarianism is a post-World
War II European far-right[2][3] political ideology asserting the
right of Europeans and peoples of European descent to culture
and territories claimed to belong exclusively to them.
Originating in France and building on ontological ideas of
modern German philosophy, its ideology was formulated from the
1960s onward by essayists such as Alain de Benoist, Dominique
Venner, Guillaume Faye and Renaud Camus, considered the
movement's intellectual leaders.
>
> While on occasion condemning racism, it argues that particular
modes of being are customary to particular groups of people,
mainly based on ideas of thinkers of the German Conservative
Revolution, in some instances influenced by Nazi theories,[4][5]
through the guidance of European New Right leaders.[6][7][8]
Identitarians promote concepts such as pan-European nationalism,
ethnopluralism, remigration, or the Great Replacement conspiracy
theory, and they are generally opposed to globalisation,
multiculturalism, Islam and extra-European immigration.[9][10]
Influenced by New Right metapolitics, they do not seek direct
electoral results, but rather to provoke long-term social
transformations and eventually achieve cultural
hegemony.[11][12]
>
> Some Identitarians explicitly espouse ideas of xenophobia and
racialism, but most limit their public statements to more docile
language. Some among them promote the creation of white
ethno-states, to the exclusion of migrants and non-white
residents.[13][14] The Identitarian Movement has been classified
by the German Federal Office for the Protection of the
Constitution in 2019 as right-wing extremist.[15]
>
> The movement is most notable in Europe, and although rooted in
Western Europe, it has spread more rapidly to the eastern part
of the continent through conscious efforts of the likes of Faye.
It also has adherents among white nationalists in North
America,[19] Australia,[23] and New Zealand.[24][25][26] The
United States–based Southern Poverty Law Center considers many
of these organisations to be hate groups.[27]
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> The movement also appeared in Germany and converged with
preexisting circles, centered on the magazine Blue Narcissus
(Blaue Narzisse [de]) and its founder Felix Menzel [de], a
martial artist and former German Karate Team Champion, who
according to Gudrun Hentges – who worked for the official
Federal Agency for Civic Education – belongs to the "elite of
the movement".[70] It became a "registered association" in
2014.[71] Drawing upon thinkers of the Nouvelle Droite and the
Conservative Revolution such as Oswald Spengler, Carl Schmitt or
the contemporary Russian Aleksandr Dugin, it played a role in
the rise of the PEGIDA marches in 2014/15.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement
Aryanism is opposed to traditionalism; ethno-states, "white"
identity, identitarianism, xenophobia, conservatism, liberalism,
Western civilization, colonialism, and Judeo-Christianity, among
other things.
Aryanism is pro-immigration....
If Dugin and Putin's Russia were really interested in
decolonization then would they not be partaking in the work that
we are, because clearly a lot of work still needs to be done in
that regard?:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/pegida/
And as far as Israel and Russia are concerned:
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> The Russians in Israel are Russian citizens who are immigrants
to Israel from Russian communities of the Soviet Union and
post-Soviet states, and their descendants. They are mostly
members of mixed families, some of them Halachically[according
to whom?] non-Jewish members of Jewish households living in
Israel.[2] A few are descended from Russian Subbotnik families,
who have migrated to Israel over the past century. People of
full or partial non-Jewish ethnic Russian ancestry number around
300,000 of the Israeli population from the immigrants from the
Soviet Union and post-Soviet states,[1][2] and the number of
Russian passport holders living in Israel is in the hundreds of
thousands.[3]
>
> Most Russian people in Israel have full Israeli citizenship
and are involved in the country's economy on all levels.
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> Their religious affiliation is largely atheist or
non-religious, though about 40,000 follow the Russian Orthodox
Church according to a recent census and it is estimated about
10,000 are members Messianic Judaism, a groups that combines
elements of Christianity with elements of Judaism and Jewish
tradition.[8] A notable number of the community have also
undergone conversion to Orthodox Judaism due to affiliation to
the Jewish community through their ancestry or because of
marriage.
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Israel
In regards to Hitler and Zionism I believe you are referring to
the Transfer Agreement, as was the Russian you quoted on the
matter more than likely:
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> The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between
the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine is a book written by author
Edwin Black, documenting the transfer agreement ("Haavara
Agreement" in Hebrew) between Zionist organizations and Nazi
Germany to transfer a number of Jews and their assets to
Palestine.
--- End Quote ---
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> The book was met with criticism on multiple fronts. Historian
Richard S. Levy in Commentary wrote that "He relies on outmoded
secondary works, makes numerous errors, and distorts his
subject" and "Black’s neglect of the secondary scholarly
literature is perverse and leads him to his most serious error
of judgment—drastic overestimation of the political and economic
efficacy of the boycott weapon", and described the book as
"conspiracy-mongering, innuendo, and sensationalism".
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreement
--- Quote ---
> Edwin Black
> Black is the son of Polish Jews who were survivors of the
Holocaust.
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Black
Hitler's first choice for the Jews was Madagascar. Zionists and
the British had already chosen Palestine long before.
Hitler speaks on the plight of the Palestinians and of USA and
British hypocrisy 1939
HTML https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x309bue
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/
Eastern Europe is also part of Turandom. Is it any coincidence
then that throughout history barabarian hordes have always risen
up from Eastern Europe and Eurasia?
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/re-turanian-diffusion/
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/khazars-history-of-the-jewish-turkic-nomads/
Considering the rise of the far-right in Europe it is clear to
see that Europe once again has a barbarian problem, as does much
of Western civilization. Some things never change....
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/
Identitarians are also opposed to the European Union, Aryanism
and the True Left are not:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/western-revisionism-of-wwi-and-wwii/?message=231
#Post#: 3721--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: v3896
Date: January 27, 2021, 6:10 pm
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--- Quote from: NuminousSun link ---
> Nevertheless, in the context of civilization, [b]the writings
of Alexander Dugin are concerned with ‘identity’...
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1. You grossly overestimate the influence of Duginism on modern
Russian society. Dugin is a fringe political writer in Russia,
far less relevant than many SocDem, Conservative, Communist, and
Libertarian political philosophers. For the record –
kameradbaren mentions Dugin and Duginism zero times. Zero.
2. Why won’t you explain how did so many fake (((Russians)))
ended up in Israel? Okay, I’ll explain: Soviet Union
specifically enacted measures against zionism and many zionist
underground organizations were destroyed as a result, and all
the Jews – even those who’ve already pretty much assimilated
into Russian culture and assumed Orthodox Christianity as their
primary religion were forced to flee into Israel and USA.
Stating that ((Russian)) Jews are Russian is like stating that
German-speaking Germany-born Jewish zionists are German.
3. The first European nations to suffer from Turanian invasions
were the Slavic nations. Slavs were vastly different from the
Mongolic conquerors – they were settled agriculturalists, and
stayed that way during all the time of Mongolian invasions.
Mongolian genes did not affect Slavic population in any
significant way, since Mongols were more interested in gathering
tribute, rather than assimilating conquered nations. And yes,
Russians perceive the period of Mongolic conquest negatively.
The reason why Russians and Slavs are perceived as “half-asiatic
barbarians” is Eurocentrism – the idea that Western European
white supremacists used for centuries to discredit Russians as
barbarians, claiming that they are “non-white Mongolic mutts”.
While Russians in Russian Empire didn’t care much about ancestry
and judged people by their adherence to Russian culture and
Christian religion, and while Soviet Union was treating Asian
individuals not as a “mass of barbarians”, but as INDIVIDUALS –
you are still reciting Western European White Supremacist myths
while trying to bend history to conform to your ideology.
Third Reich specifically restricted freedom of individuals of
non-European blood (Ahnenpass, page 41), while Soviet Union was
not concerned about blood and identity at all, instead judging
people by their individual qualities. It should concern you,
that the mythical “politically correct” Third Reich which you
brag about did not exist in reality – and that Soviet Union
which was anti-racist and anti-zionist, fits the description
more accurately.
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 27, 2021, 6:56 pm
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> You grossly overestimate the influence of Duginism on modern
Russian society.
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Do we really? Or, perhaps you underestimate Dugin's influence?
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> Eurasia Party
>
> The Eurasia Party, which advances neo-Eurasianist ideas, was
launched in April 2001. Dugin was reported as the group's
founder. He said the movement would stress cultural diversity in
Russian politics, and oppose "American style globalisation, and
would also resist a return to communism and nationalism." It was
officially recognized by the Ministry of Justice on 31 May
2001.[9] The Eurasia Party claims support in some military
circles and by leaders of the Orthodox Christian faith in
Russia, and the party hopes to play a key role in attempts to
resolve the Chechen problem, with the objective of setting the
stage for Dugin's objective of a Russian strategic alliance with
European and Middle Eastern states, primarily Iran.
> Aleksandr Dugin is seen at the International Conference "New
Horizon" in May 2018 in Mashhad, Iran
>
> In 2005, Dugin founded the Eurasian Youth Union of Russia as
the youth wing of the International Eurasia Movement.[62]
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> National Bolshevik Party
>
> In 1992, Eduard Limonov founded the National Bolshevik Front
(NBF) as an amalgamation of six minor groups.[63] Aleksandr
Dugin was among the earliest members and was instrumental in
convincing Limonov to enter politics, and signed the a
declaration of the founding of the party in 1993.[64] The party
first attracted attention in 1992 when two members were arrested
for possessing grenades. The incident gave the NBP publicity for
a boycott campaign they were organizing against Western
goods.[65] The NBF joined forces with the National Salvation
Front (a broad coalition of Russian communists and
nationalists).[66] In 1998, Dugin left the NBP as a result of a
conflict with other members of the party.[67] This led to the
party moving further left in Russia's political spectrum, and
lead to members of the party denouncing Dugin and his group as
fascists.[68]
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> Stance on Ukraine and role in Russian politics
>
> Dugin supports Putin and his foreign policies but has opposed
the Russian government's economic policies. His 2007 quote,
"There are no more opponents of Putin's course and, if there
are, they are mentally ill and need to be sent off for clinical
examination. Putin is everywhere, Putin is everything, Putin is
absolute, and Putin is indispensable" – was voted number two in
flattery by readers of Kommersant.[69]
>
> In the Kremlin, Dugin represents the "war party", a division
within the leadership over Ukraine.[70] Dugin is an author of
Putin's initiative for the annexation of Crimea by Russia.[71]
He considered the war between Russia and Ukraine to be
inevitable and appealed for Putin to start military intervention
in eastern Ukraine.[71] Dugin said: "The Russian Renaissance can
only stop by Kiev."[72] During the 2014 pro-Russian conflict in
Ukraine, Dugin was in regular contact with pro-Russian
separatist insurgents.[73] He described his position as
"unconditionally pro-DPR and pro-LPR".[74] A Skype video call
posted on YouTube showed Dugin providing instructions to
separatists of South and Eastern Ukraine as well as advising
Ekaterina Gubareva, whose husband Pavel Gubarev declared himself
a local governor and after that was arrested by the Security
Service of Ukraine.[62] On 31 March 2014, Oleg Bahtiyarov, a
member of the Eurasia Youth Union of Russia founded by Dugin,
was arrested.[62] He had trained a group of about 200 people to
seize parliament and another government building, according to
the Security Service of Ukraine.[62]
>
> Dugin stated he was disappointed in Russian President Vladimir
Putin, saying that Putin did not aid the pro-Russian insurgents
in Ukraine after the Ukrainian Army's early July 2014
offensive.[73] In August 2014, Dugin called for a "genocide" of
Ukrainians.[75]
>
> Halya Coynash of the Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group
said that the influence of Dugin's "Eurasian ideology" on events
in eastern Ukraine and on Russia's invasion of the Crimea was
beyond any doubt.[76] According to Vincent Jauvert, Dugin's
radical ideology today became the basis for the internal and
foreign policy of the Russian authorities.[77] "So Dugin is
worth listening to, in order to understand to which fate the
Kremlin is leading its country and the whole of Europe."[77]
>
> He has criticized the "Euro-Atlantic involvement" in the 2004
Ukrainian presidential election as a scheme to create a "cordon
sanitaire" around Russia, much like the French and British
attempt post-World War I.[citation needed]
>
> Ukraine gave Dugin a five-year entry ban, starting in June
2006,[78] and Kiev declared him a persona non grata in 2007.[79]
His Eurasian Youth Union was banned in Ukraine.[78] In 2007, the
Security Service of Ukraine identified persons of the Eurasian
Youth Union who committed vandalism on Hoverla in 2007: they
climbed up the mountain of Hoverla, imitated sawing down the
details of the construction in the form of the small coat of
arms of Ukraine by tools brought with them and painted the
emblem of the Eurasian Youth Union on the memorial symbol of the
Constitution of Ukraine.[78] He was deported back to Russia when
he arrived at Simferopol International Airport in June 2007.[80]
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin
You call this 'an overestimation of Dugin's influence'? Not only
does Dugin clearly have influence in Russia, he also has
influence in the non-Russian world. This much is obvious:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/JbKgoPB.png
Interestingly, during WWII many Germans thought of Russians as
"barbarians" because of Bolshevism. These Germans were then
proven correct when the USSR invaded Germany:
World War II justified by former German soldiers
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PJkNZ30WV0
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/'whites'-are-the-biggest-rapists-in-history!/
And:
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/10/09/how-putins-russia-uses-soviet-era-tricks-to-evoke-racist-white-fears/
HTML https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-russia-exploits-american-white-supremacy-over-and-over-again
HTML https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/politics/russian-interference-race.html
etc.
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 27, 2021, 11:41 pm
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"3. The first European nations to suffer from Turanian invasions
were the Slavic nations."
The Bronze Age Turanian invasions predate the existence of
Slavic languages, since Slavic is a linguistic descendant of PIE
which was the language of the invading Yamnaya Turanians:
HTML https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/29/19/11631656-6865741-image-a-3_1553886788379.jpg
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> The most violent group of people who ever lived: Horse-riding
Yamnaya tribe who used their huge height and muscular build to
brutally murder and invade their way across Europe more than
4,000 years ago
> ...
> They would murder men and sire their own children so that
within a few generations the presence of the previous societies
is all but eradicated.
> ...
> Yamnaya people arrived in Eastern Europe approximately 5,000
years ago and their culture and customs spread rapidly to both
the east and the west.
>
> They then interbred with the Corded Ware people in central
Europe, with later generations inheriting a significant amount
of Yamnaya DNA.
> ...
> Ancient DNA reveals these migrants were well nourished, tall
and muscular. Some archaeologists also argue that the warrior
tribe consisted of skilled horsemen.
>
> 'It looks like they lived mostly on meat and milk products,'
says Professor Kristiansen.
> ...
> This theory is backed up by David Reich at Harvard Medical
School who is due to release a piece of research stating the
Yumnaya orchestrated a systematic genocide of Neolithic men.
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HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-diffusion/
"Mongolian genes did not affect Slavic population in any
significant way"
But Yamnaya genes did.
"The reason why Russians and Slavs are perceived as
“half-asiatic barbarians” is Eurocentrism – the idea that
Western European white supremacists used for centuries to
discredit Russians as barbarians, claiming that they are
“non-white Mongolic mutts”."
I am aware that such a perspective exists, but it is not ours.
While we also dislike Mongols, we do not dislike Mongols because
they are "Asiatic" but because they are Turanian:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/re-turanian-diffusion/
And Eurocentrism has nothing to do with it; for example, we
consider Southern Chinese blood preferable to Northern Chinese
blood for the reason that the latter is more Turanized by Mongol
blood:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yandi-vs-huangdi-myth-confirmed/
Moreover, we consider Southern Italian blood preferable to
Northern Italian blood for the reason that the latter is more
Turanized by Yamnaya/Hun/etc. blood, even though the former
contains a larger proportion of "non-white" blood overall:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/padania-vs-saturnia/
That Hitler disliked Russia but liked China is inexplicable by
those who claim he had a problem with "Asiaticness". If it was
"Asiaticness" that he had a problem with, he would consider
Russia bad but China worse (as Anglocentrists do). The only
racial model that adequately accounts for Hitler's evaluations
of Russia and China is Turanian diffusion.
And one more thing:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/turanian-sexism/
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: v3896
Date: January 28, 2021, 1:41 am
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1.Most Westerners I’ve met have a very distorted perception of
modern Russian politics. The perception of Dugin as this "most
popular political philosopher" mainly comes from conservative
Westerners who have a very vague understanding of current
Russian politics as a “paradise for conservatives based on
traditional Orthodox nationalist values”. Even if he is
appealing to Putinist government because of his rhetoric, he is
not popular among ordinary people. Most people, even those who
are somewhat into politics, either don't know much or don't care
about Dugin.
2. By the way, National-Bolshevik party where Dugin initially
comes from is currently banned in Russia. The only reason why
Dugin manages to publish his writings legally is because he is
pro-Putinist, i.e. the government doesn’t perceive him as a
threat. But that doesn’t make him more relevant. Most
pro-Putinists are still far from any ideology – they don’t need
any political ideology, even though Dugin is trying to present
his ideology as some sort of “enhanced Putinism”. Putinism,
however, is not based on ideology – it is based on money and
“stability”(which can be more correctly called “stagnation”).
Rich people get paid to support Putin, and poor people still
vote for Putin because they are afraid of 1990s situation being
repeated over again – they fear that if Putin is gone, the
society will fall into chaos. Neither rich people, nor poor
people need an ideology to justify their support for Putin.
That’s why Dugin is irrelevant to anyone except a small group of
"conservative intellectuals" – because his ideology is
absolutely unnecessary to justify Putinism. If Dugin would
disappear tomorrow - nothing would change, unless Putin
disappears too.
3. Some NS like to claim that Hitler respected Russians because
some Russian immigrants before WW2 were accepted into German
society – yes, these rich French-speaking “Russians”, who have
been completely Westernized and who hated Bolshevism because
communists forced them to leave country and gave away their
mansions to house poor peasants.
The modern perception of Russian people as barbaric was mostly
created by these Westernized “Russians” who’ve treated common
people, peasants, as trash. And when these poor people decided
that enough is enough and started the Revolution – these
peasants were even more demonized by these elites who've fled
the country. Also, the hatred towards Slavs was always present
in German culture, and this hatred was originated even before
Medieval era – because Slavs and Germans lived nearby or a
relatively small territory and competed for land and resources.
So, their hatred towards Slavs and Russians by extension has
always has been there. Not because it was justifiable, but
because it was either classist bigotry, or historical hatred
based on survivalism.
3.1 Hitler did not have problem with East Asians (Chinese or
Japanese) because they did not historically competed with
Germans for resources, but Slavs did. Where do you think Hitler
was trying to build his Tribesraum? Not on the Pacific coast,
but on the Russian plains, and Russians, not Japanese or
Chinese, were blocking the way. Also, Slavs were far more close
to other Europeans than to Scythians or Mongols both culturally
and genetically, but it never mattered for Germans. Germans had
a rich history of harassing other people who lived nearby - be
to Slavic, Baltic, Celtic, or Italic people (and WW2 wasn't the
first time Germans invaded Slavic lands). Pure visceral tribal
hatred towards everyone around them for the sake of survival
that manifested both in German and English imperialism, lasted
for centuries and was preserved within German culture, to be
later reignited just when it was necessary. Also, all the racist
myths about Russian people (and Russian Communists too) were
later successfully adopted by McCarthyist Anglos as if these
myths were made to appeal to natural instincts of the same
tribe. Coincidence? I don't think so.
4. Germany invaded USSR first. And how about the little affair
that Third Reich and USSR had before? They have invaded Poland
together. And apparently, all Soviet civilians who've reported
being assaulted by German soldiers don't matter? NS like to
claim that all the crimes were committed by Soviets, and that no
German soldier ever committed a crime against a Soviet citizen.
However, here’s the contradiction that no NS has been able to
address. Third Reich ratified Barbarossa decree shortly before
the war. TL/DR: This decree basically legalized all crimes
committed by German soldiers against Soviet civilians during the
war, while Soviet Union government ratified Directive No. 11072
that specifically prohibited crimes against German civilians.
Also, I will tell you why Aryanism has very grim chances of
succeeding in Russia: not because the people are bigoted and
barbaric. Many modern Russians are tired of this Putinist circus
and will gladly accept a non-Western, anti-zionist ideology
along with a simple agricultural lifestyle in a Russian village,
according to Aryanist ideal. However, they will not stand:
1. The political ignorance of current Aryanist leadership: I saw
AS once proposing to replace Russian government with “muslim
minorities” without him realizing that the most populous Russian
muslims are Caucasians, who are renowned tribalists surpassed
only Jews. The reason why native Russian-populated republics are
poorer that Caucasian republics is because Russians are not
generally tribalist, in stark comparison to Jews and Caucasians
– they don’t exploit the system using nepotist connections and
end up poorer, while Caucasians and jews in government get
richer.
2. The utter lack of empathy towards Soviet and Russian people
in general. In the end, it doesn’t even matter who started the
war. Innocent people on both sides suffered immensely as a
result. When I talk to Russian people - I never hear stories
about mythical "Gulags where 100 million people were executed",
but every family has a war story of losing their relatives and
loved ones. However, you show sympathy only to Germans – the
same guys who repeated after Goebbels: “We want total war!” The
same Germans, who’ve considered Russian people biologically
inferior and unworthy of empathy. How are you guys different
from White Supremacists who think that “all Black people are
subhumans unworthy of our compassion”? The only “Russian” people
you sympathize with are Westernized Russians from upper class
who’ve got expelled from Russia after Revolution for being
selfish money-hoarders. Sure, this attitude may get you
followers. Among a very small group of pro-European monarchist
conservatives, who are also racist and homophobic. Good luck
converting these guys, I guess? But be careful – they will only
use you to get into power, just like their predecessors who’ve
tried to use Hitler and NS to restore their power in Russia and
get their mansions back (and spread lies about Russian peasants
being barbaric to justify the elitist feudal rule, implying that
Russian peasants are "Asiatic mutts who deserve to be conquered
and ruled by White Europeans").
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: guest5
Date: January 28, 2021, 7:23 pm
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--- Quote ---
> 1.Most Westerners I’ve met have a very distorted perception of
modern Russian politics. The perception of Dugin as this "most
popular political philosopher" mainly comes from conservative
Westerners who have a very vague understanding of current
Russian politics as a “paradise for conservatives based on
traditional Orthodox nationalist values”. Even if he is
appealing to Putinist government because of his rhetoric, he is
not popular among ordinary people. Most people, even those who
are somewhat into politics, either don't know much or don't care
about Dugin.
--- End Quote ---
The last sentence I put in bold reminds me of this guy in the
U.S.:
HTML https://cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/images/91dd5b3b-0001-0004-0000-000000498543_w1200_r1_fpx32.16_fpy45.jpg
You also admit that Dugin has more power in the West than he
does in Russia, which is exactly why we point out his influence
in Western civilization, especially among rightists. See
picture\meme in my previous response.
We are concerned with killing Western Civilization here,
after-all. It is Western rightists we are most concerned with
therefore, and rightists in general. Western rightists see Putin
as a savior and appreciate Dugin, well, those Western rightists
who know Dugin is of course.
--- Quote ---
> The modern perception of Russian people as barbaric was mostly
created by these Westernized “Russians” who’ve treated common
people, peasants, as trash. And when these poor people decided
that enough is enough and started the Revolution – these
peasants were even more demonized by these elites who've fled
the country.
--- End Quote ---
We advocate treating everyone as individuals until they prove
otherwise here. Taking note of this ideal, how then are we meant
to see Dugin after he does a speaking tour with "white
nationalist" types in the West, and other places?
My "Nazi" grandfather was saved by a Russian field hospital
during WWII after being shot by a Russian. I am aware not all
Russians are barbarians, perhaps more than most here....
One thing is for certain, if we allow rightists, Western
rightists especially, to get there way, Western civilization
will not die. And, it will only be a matter of time before we
have Western colonialism 2.0, but with nukes this time around:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
From where I'm sitting Westerners\rightists are very close to
getting their way.
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: Dazhbog
Date: January 31, 2021, 7:49 am
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--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> Most people, even those who are somewhat into politics, either
don't know much or don't care about Dugin.
--- End Quote ---
Duginism, the way the term is used here, is a shorthand for any
kind of Russian expansionism, driven by the belief that Russia
is on a 'civilizing mission' regarding its immediate
neighborhood, what they call the 'Eurasian' landmass or even the
entire world. A well-known synonym would be Russian messianism,
which, in one form or another, has been the driving force behind
every major political development in Russia at the latest since
the Russian empire, whether under the cloak of Orthodox
traditionalism or communism.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> If Dugin would disappear tomorrow - nothing would change,
unless Putin disappears too.
--- End Quote ---
Not even then anything would change regarding Russian
messianism, as many Russian opposition figures subscribe to it
too (and merely regard Putin as an inefficient messianist):
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny
--- Quote ---
> In early 2012, Navalny stated on Ukrainian TV, "Russian
foreign policy should be maximally directed at integration with
Ukraine and Belarus… In fact, we are one nation. We should
enhance integration."
>
> ...
>
> In October 2014, Navalny said in an interview that despite
Crimea being illegally "seized", "the reality is that Crimea is
now part of Russia". When asked if he would return Crimea to
Ukraine if he became president, he said "Is Crimea some sort of
sausage sandwich to be passed back and forth? I don't think so".
>
> ...
>
> "Putin likes to speak about the 'Russian world' but he is
actually making it smaller. [...]"
>
> ...
>
> Navalny has also expressed his support for pro-Russian
secessions in Georgia and Moldova.
>
> ...
>
> In 2018, after the establishment of the Orthodox Church of
Ukraine, an event labeled as the ending of more than three
centuries of Russian spiritual and temporal control of the
dominant faith in Ukraine, Navalny tweeted: "What took centuries
to create has been destroyed by Putin and his idiots in four
years...Putin is the enemy of the Russian World."
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Udaltsov
--- Quote ---
> "I am a Soviet patriot and consider the destruction of the
Soviet Union the greatest mistake and a crime. Therefore, I
regard the absorption of Crimea to be a small but important step
towards the revival of a renewed [Soviet] Union."
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> Also, the hatred towards Slavs was always present in German
culture
--- End Quote ---
This is contradicted by the fact that the Germans lived
peacefully with a number of Slav minorities such as the
Silesians or the Masurians, who with time organically integrated
into the wider German folk without even as much as forced
assimilation, not even in the 19th century, when anti-Slav
sentiment in Germany was arguably at its peak.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> [...] their hatred towards Slavs and Russians by extension
[...]
--- End Quote ---
German anti-Slav sentiment was always chiefly directed against
the Poles (and, to some extent, the Czechs) and a plethora of
German and Prussian leaders was actually willing to ally with
Russia against Poland based on these sentiments.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> Hitler did not have problem with East Asians (Chinese or
Japanese) because they did not historically competed with
Germans for resources, but Slavs did. Where do you think Hitler
was trying to build his Tribesraum? Not on the Pacific coast,
but on the Russian plains, and Russians, not Japanese or
Chinese, were blocking the way.
--- End Quote ---
As hinted at above, the Germans' most immediate Slavic rivals
for resources and living space are the Poles, not the Russians.
Yet, before Poland revealed its own barbarian, identitarian
nature, Hitler was actually trying to win them over as allies
against the Soviet Union, completely breaking with German
geopolitical tradition (including that of leaders Hitler
admired, such as Frederick the Great and Bismarck).
This shows that Hitler was indeed evaluating the Slav countries
according to their individual quality and not simply acting on
age old prejudices.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> Also, Slavs were far more close to other Europeans than to
Scythians or Mongols both culturally and genetically
--- End Quote ---
Even if what you say was true, fact of the matter is, that there
is a strong tendency towards ignobility (traditionalism,
identitarianism etc.) in many Slav countries. If it wasn't
passed down by the Scythians or other Yamnaya-descendants, there
must have been a different source for this. Said ignoble
tendencies are a reality nevertheless.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> Germany invaded USSR first. [...] And apparently, all Soviet
civilians who've reported being assaulted by German soldiers
don't matter? NS like to claim that all the crimes were
committed by Soviets, and that no German soldier ever committed
a crime against a Soviet citizen. However, here’s the
contradiction that no NS has been able to address. Third Reich
ratified Barbarossa decree shortly before the war. TL/DR: This
decree basically legalized all crimes committed by German
soldiers against Soviet civilians during the war, while Soviet
Union government ratified Directive No. 11072 that specifically
prohibited crimes against German civilians.
--- End Quote ---
Operation Barbarossa, including the harsh measures taken against
those parts of the civilian population that couldn't be reliably
counted on to oppose the Soviet system (respectively Soviet
partisans etc.), was necessary in order to ensure a demographic
and territorial victory over Turanism:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/red-coup/?message=3461
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> And how about the little affair that Third Reich and USSR had
before? They have invaded Poland together.
--- End Quote ---
A last resort to prevent Germany being encircled by the Western
allies, as well as to put a quick stop to the ethnic cleansing
of the German, Ukrainian etc. minorities in Poland.
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> I saw AS once proposing to replace Russian government with
“muslim minorities” without him realizing that the most populous
Russian muslims are Caucasians, who are renowned tribalists
surpassed only Jews.
--- End Quote ---
Even if what you say was true, there never was any talk of
handing Russia to a particular ethnic group, simply a Muslim
takeover. Whether these Muslims are ethnic Russian converts or
representatives of Muslim-majority ethnic minorities is
irrelevant, as long as they are of a sufficient quality
(evidently, there is no interest in subhumans like Ramzan
Kadyrov seizing power).
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> The utter lack of empathy towards Soviet and Russian people in
general. In the end, it doesn’t even matter who started the war.
Innocent people on both sides suffered immensely as a result.
--- End Quote ---
People who supported the Soviet system can hardly be called
innocent. Where was their empathy with 'Kulaks' and other 'class
enemies', 'bourgeois nationalists' etc. that were ruthlessly
brutalized and exterminated throughout its existence?
--- Quote from: v3896 link ---
> The only “Russian” people you sympathize with are Westernized
Russians from upper class who’ve got expelled from Russia after
Revolution for being selfish money-hoarders. Sure, this attitude
may get you followers. Among a very small group of pro-European
monarchist conservatives, who are also racist and homophobic.
[...] But be careful – they will only use you to get into power,
just like their predecessors who’ve tried to use Hitler and NS
to restore their power in Russia and get their mansions back.
--- End Quote ---
As can be read all over the board, we do not sympathize with
racists and homophobes. Besides, the types you speak of always
give in to their Turanian nature when push comes to shove:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Rodzaevsky
--- Quote ---
> At the end of the war, perhaps as a desperate attempt to avoid
execution in case that he would be captured by the advancing Red
Army, Rodzaevsky began to state that the Soviet regime under
Joseph Stalin was evolving into a nationalist one. He gave
himself up to Soviet authorities in Harbin in 1945, with a
letter that shows striking similarities with the doctrines of
National Bolshevism:
>
> "I issued a call for an unknown leader, ... capable of
overturning the Jewish government and creating a new Russia. I
failed to see that, by the will of fate, of his own genius, and
of millions of toilers, Comrade J.V. Stalin, the leader of the
peoples, had become this unknown leader."
--- End Quote ---
No True Leftist would ever take someone like this seriously,
much less work with them.
#Post#: 4460--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: guest30
Date: February 25, 2021, 4:45 am
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Whatever you think how hostile and "evil" Russia is, from real
perspective, Russia is good for anti-Western cooperation....
Russia cooperation with muslim, anti-Zionist, and anti-Western
country Syria
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Syria_relations#:~:text=Russia%E2%80%93Syria%20relations%20refers%20to,most%20of%20the%20Arab%20countries.
Russia in 2011 and 2012 used its veto-power in the United
Nations Security Council against resolutions promoted by Western
and Arab countries, to prevent possible sanctions or military
intervention against the Syrian government, and Russia continued
supplying large amounts of arms that Syria's government had
earlier contracted to buy and which were used to fight
Western-backed rebels.[8] On 30 September 2015, Russia began a
military intervention in the Syrian Civil War in support of the
Syrian government, consisting of intensive air and cruise
missile strikes against several terrorist groups, including ISIS
and Al-Nusra Front (Al-Qaeda’s official affiliate in Syria).
Russia cooperation with muslim, anti-Zionist, and anti-Western
country Iran
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Russia_relations#
Military
Unlike previous years in which Iran's air fleet was entirely
Western-made, Iran's Air Force and civilian air fleet are
increasingly becoming domestically and Russian built as the US
and Europe continue to maintain sanctions on Iran.[29][30][31]
In 2010, Iran's refusal to halt uranium enrichment led the UN to
pass a new resolution, number 1929 to vote for new sanctions
against Iran which bans the sale of all types of heavy weaponry
(including missiles) to Iran. This resulted in the cancellation
of the delivery of the S-300 system to Iran:[32] In September
2010 Russian President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree banning
the delivery of S-300 missile systems, armored vehicles,
warplanes, helicopters and ships to Iran.[citation needed]
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also criticised Russia for kowtowing to the
United States.[33] As a result of the cancellation, Iran brought
suit against Russia in Swiss court and in response to the
lawsuit Russia threatened to withdraw diplomatic support for
Iran in the nuclear dispute.[citation needed]
Since the outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011, Iran and
Russia have become the Syrian government's principal allies in
the conflict, openly providing armed support. Meanwhile,
Russia's own relations with the West plummeted due to the
Ukraine crisis, the 2018 Skripal poisoning incident in Great
Britain, and alleged Russian interference with Western politics,
prompting the U.S. and Europe to retaliate with sanctions
against Russia. As a result, Russia has shown a degree
willingness to ally with Iran militarily. Following the JCPOA
agreement, President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban in 2015 and
the deal for the S-300 missile defense system to Iran was
revived.[34] The delivery was completed in November 2016 and was
to be followed by a $10 billion deal that included helicopters,
planes and artillery systems.[35]
......
Relations between Russia and Iran have increased as both
countries are under U.S. sanctions and are seeking new trade
partners. The two countries signed a historic US$20 billion oil
for goods deal in August 2014.[40][41][42]
Western countries is group of countries that oppress the world
with their colonization idea for almost more than 500 years
(from late 1400's until late 1900's), therefore anti Western
policy is good for people who not want to be oppressed
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Western_sentiment#Russia
Vladimir Putin has promoted explicitly conservative policies in
social, cultural and political matters, both at home and abroad.
Putin has attacked globalism and neoliberalism,[24] and promoted
new think tanks that stress Russian nationalism, the restoration
of Russia's historical greatness, and systematic opposition to
liberal ideas and policies.[25] Putin has collaborated closely
with the Russian Orthodox Church. Patriarch Kirill of Moscow,
head of the Church, endorsed his election in 2012 stating
Putin's terms were like "a miracle of God."[26][27] The Russian
Orthodox Church sometimes is host to groups that promote
nationalist and anti-Western tendencies.[28][29]
The Russian government has restricted foreign funding of some
pro-liberal Non Governmental Organizations. Pro-Russian
activists in the former Soviet Union frequently equate the West
with homosexuality and the gay agenda,[30] and Russian gay
propaganda law was welcomed by nationalist and religious
political figures in Russia as a bulwark against Western
influence.
And homosexuality is not good for human society, it make
sexual contact which produce sex/gender disease, so it need to
be put in order, and if you support Islam as a religion which
teach people against Jews and the West, you should not oppose
anti-homosexuality people, Islam is also forbids homosexuality,
and homosexual idea is popular among Western liberal oppressor
countries
I dont know why you support and encourage people to support
a country just because its policy is allowing 1960's
counterculture idea like liberalism, gender freedom, so-called
human "equality", and many counterculture ideas, even though
country which heavily influnced by counterculture like Western
countries (Western Europe countries, include Australia, New
Zealand, and United States) is historically and until now openly
support Jews, Israel, and still keep oppressing non-Western
countries and its people trough proxy wars, economic debt,
imposing oppressing economic system (like privatization of
national central bank which make huge national debt and
inflation for example), economic sanction, and many more...
Better you support a country that have anti-Zionist and
anti-Western sentiment even its have negative views on 1960's
counterculture ideas
United States is country who oppress and frequently attack anti
Jewish and anti Western countries like Iraq (See again US
invasion of Iraq in 2003), Syria (with their anti Syria
government rebel soldiers whom they aid to make endless civil
war from 2010 until now), and also Iran, (With sending their
military troops to Iran's border and enforce economic sanction
to them (Iran) along with her Allies Western country,
particularly country that become NATO members), from that you
should have no problem with Russia, because Russia's policy is
also anti United States
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Americanism
Negative or critical views of the United States or its influence
are widespread in places such as Russia, North Korea, China,
Iran, Serbia,[11][12] Bosnia,[13] Belarus[14] the Greater Middle
East and Latin America such as Bolivia, Mexico and
Venuzuela,[15][16] with disagreements and skepticism of its
foreign policies more widespread, including some NATO countries
such as France, Germany and Spain.[16] On the other hand, it
remains low in Israel, the Philippines, Sub-Saharan Africa, and
certain countries in central and eastern Europe such as Poland
and Hungary.[15]
So the conclusion is, to you who now want to enter or still
struggle in political world and want to enforce anti-Jewish and
anti-Western policy in any of your country origin, you must
support Russia, its good for arms trade and alternative economic
cooperation if your country origin get sanctioned diplomatically
or economically by "the West..."
Dont be tricked by this forum's implicit pro Western propaganda
information...
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Re: Aryanism's hostility towards Russia and Eastern European
people
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: February 25, 2021, 11:00 pm
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"Russia is good for anti-Western cooperation"
No.
Your own quote:
--- Quote ---
> Vladimir Putin has promoted explicitly conservative policies
in social, cultural and political matters, both at home and
abroad. Putin has attacked globalism and neoliberalism,[24] and
promoted new think tanks that stress Russian nationalism, the
restoration of Russia's historical greatness, and systematic
opposition to liberal ideas and policies.[25]
--- End Quote ---
This makes Russia pro-Western.
--- Quote ---
> The Russian government has restricted foreign funding of some
pro-liberal Non Governmental Organizations. Pro-Russian
activists in the former Soviet Union frequently equate the West
with homosexuality and the gay agenda,[30] and Russian gay
propaganda law was welcomed by nationalist and religious
political figures in Russia as a bulwark against Western
influence.
--- End Quote ---
To the average Russian, "Western" means Counterculture. To us,
Western civilization is what the Counterculture was trying to
overthrow. Therefore if Russia is anti-"Western" (average
Russian use of the term), it is actually anti-Counterculture,
and therefore pro-Western in the true sense.
Dugin himself, being more educated than the average Russian,
agrees with me academically:
irrussianality.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/interview-with-alexander-dugin/
--- Quote ---
> PR: There are people who say that you are anti-Western.
>
> AD: No, I don’t agree. I am not anti-Western. I am
anti-liberal. In fact, I love the West. I have written eight
volumes dedicated to Western culture, Western philosophy. I have
written two volumes on Greek and Byzantine culture; a volume on
Latin culture; a volume on Germany; a volume on France; a volume
on England; a volume on America, including North America. I am
interested in the Western logos; I study it; it is
extraordinarily complicated. I don’t only criticize it, I know
it and understand it deeply. Until a certain moment when this
liberal, globalist ideology triumphed, the West was a jewel. The
West produced daring thought, beautiful thought, sunny thought.
It had everything. Until the 1980s. What happened in the West in
the 80s affected universities, art, mass media, all of society.
I consider that contemporary Europe is an anti-Europe. I simply
cannot accept the West in its current condition, at the end of
modernity. I find that I have more sympathizers in Western
cultural circles than in Russian ones. The West is my spiritual,
intellectual motherland. That’s not to mention Western European
culture, which I admire. I know all the so-called ‘cursed’
French poets by heart. I love English culture. I’m not some evil
Russian peasant who hates the West. I know European languages
quite well. I know the West, I live my life through it. One can
even say that I love the West.
--- End Quote ---
Dugin and I have the same (accurate) understanding of what is
Western. The only difference is that I hate what he loves.
"country which heavily influnced by counterculture like Western
countries (Western Europe countries, include Australia, New
Zealand, and United States) is historically and until now openly
support Jews, Israel"
This is already changing. As Counterculture-influenced people
see that Jews are oppressors, not victims, they stop supporting
Jews and Israel. The fastest way we could screw things up now is
by listening to you.
The countries which really support Israel are those which were
not influenced by the Counterculture:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/
These are the true Western countries.
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