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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: rp
Date: July 26, 2023, 8:18 pm
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Where's the lie though?:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7kEtGWb6_U
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: July 27, 2023, 12:37 am
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It's OK for nuclear testing to be "white":
HTML https://us.yahoo.com/news/oppenheimers-test-wasnt-remote-populated-222831206.html
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> Oppenheimer's test site wasn't remote. It was populated by
Hispanos and Native Americans
>
> In the course of a single afternoon in 2017, the whole of Paul
Pino’s life clicked. At a meeting of the Tularosa Basin
Downwinders Consortium, Pino thought about the people he’d lost,
the family members he’d mourned — his mother, who died of bone
cancer, his brother who died of stomach cancer, and his sister
who died of thyroid cancer — and as he listened to the
consortium’s two-hour presentation, tears streamed down his
face, and his grief turned into anger.
>
> Pino is one of hundreds of thousands of people known as
“downwinders” — those living in the fallout zone of nuclear test
sites, exposed to high levels of radiation that increase the
risk of cancer. While downwinder communities span several states
including Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and Idaho, as a result of
decades of nuclear weapons testing, the people of New Mexico
were the first victims of the atomic bomb, the result of the
Manhattan Project’s Trinity Test on July 16, 1945 — less than a
month before the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
> ...
> "Oppenheimer," the massive blockbuster biopic of J. Robert
Oppenheimer, “the father of the atomic bomb,” has sparked
renewed interest in the dawn of the Atomic Age and prompted
conversations about its decision not to depict the communities
that bore the brunt of the fallout.
>
> Tina Cordova, founder of TBDC, is hoping that increased
interest in Oppenheimer and the atomic bomb will cast a
spotlight on the group's fight for recognition. “We were a
sacrifice to our country’s quest for nuclear superiority,”
Cordova said. “They spread more than ten pounds of plutonium
across the Tularosa Basin. Our government has never come back to
sort out what happened to us. We’re just collateral damage.”
> ...
> For Cordova, the ethnic makeup of Los Alamos and the White
Sands testing site is central to why they were chosen, and how
the downwinders have been treated since. “We were the first
people ever exposed to radiation as the result of an atomic
bomb, and most of us were Hispanos and Native Americans,” she
said. “In the 1940s, they depended on us to be uneducated,
unsophisticated, and unable to stand up for ourselves. We’re not
those people any longer.”
> ...
> “If you don't address the entire history, then you're
essentially perpetuating a lie. And the idea that no one lived
here and no one was harmed is a lie.”
>
> As radiation contaminated the air, water and soil throughout
the Tularosa Basin, cancer became a reality — as predictable as
New Mexico’s yearly monsoons. “We don’t ask if we’re going to
get cancer, we ask when,” Cordova said. “In my own family, just
look at the level of loss my mom experienced. She lost my dad,
her sister, her mother, a sister-in-law. I had cancer myself.
Imagine the trauma associated with that, and that’s what we live
with every day.”
> ...
> Cordova said the group tried to get in contact with the
filmmakers while they were shooting in New Mexico but was told
that there wasn’t interest in meeting with them.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: christianbethel
Date: July 27, 2023, 2:21 pm
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Wow, what fúcking horseshít. I never knew the nuclear test site
was inhabited. 'Whites', man. They gotta go.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: rp
Date: September 16, 2023, 11:36 am
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Turanian vs Aryan blood memory as manifest in modern day
warfare:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VuGRBraMb0
Russian armored cavalry = Turanian steppe horse "warriors"
Japanese fortified infantry = Aryan valley-dwelling kshatriyas
These steppe dwellers still have the nerve to call Aryan
fortifications "cowardly", despite the fact that Aryans have to
step out of their forts to deal any significant damage to the
enemy. Can we say the same about charioteers/tank operators?
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Canada
DIR By: .
Date: September 26, 2023, 8:44 pm
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HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/speaker-anthony-rota-resignation-1.6978422
Anthony Rota resigns as Speaker after honouring Ukrainian
veteran who fought with Nazi unit
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>
>
> Liberal MP Anthony Rota is stepping down as House of Commons
Speaker after inviting a former Ukrainian soldier who fought in
a Nazi division to Parliament — a dramatic turn of events that
will be welcomed by MPs on all sides who said the embarrassing
incident was unforgivable.
>
> "I reiterate my profound regret for my error in recognizing an
individual in the House."
>
> Rota said the "public recognition" he gave to a former Nazi
soldier "caused pain to individuals and communities," including
Jewish people, Poles and "other survivors of Nazi atrocities."
>
> On Friday, Rota invited Ukrainian veteran Yaroslav Hunka, a
constituent of his from North Bay, Ont., to sit in the
parliamentary gallery during Ukrainian President Volodymyr
Zelenskyy's address to Parliament.
>
> Over the weekend, it emerged that Hunka was part of the First
Ukrainian Division, also known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division
or the SS 14th Waffen Division — a voluntary unit under the
command of the Nazis.
>
> Poland takes steps toward extradition
>
> The shockwaves from the 98-year-old's appearance in Parliament
are still being felt.
>
> Poland's education minister has said he wants Hunka be
extradited to face criminal penalties for his role in the
Galician division, a unit that committed atrocities against
Poles in the Second World War. Przemysław Czarnek said he
has "taken steps" to get Hunka to Poland.
>
> The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Centre (FSWC), a Jewish rights
group, said Rota's action "compromised all 338 MPs" and "handed
a propaganda victory to Russia."
>
> B'nai Brith, another Jewish group, said the government must
make the Duchesne Commission's 1980s-era report public in its
entirety so the country can learn the true extent of Ukrainian
Nazi activities in post-Second World War Canada.
>
> Reports suggest as many as 2,000 Ukrainian members of Adolf
Hitler's Waffen-SS were admitted to Canada after the war — after
some British prodding. The commission said the number is likely
lower than that.
>
> But Jewish groups have long been critical of how these
collaborators have been allowed to live in peace in Canada after
voluntarily serving in Hitler's war machine.
>
> Historians have documented how soldiers like Hunka were
trained at SS facilities in Germany, swore an oath to Hitler and
received an education in Nazi doctrine.
>
> "We cannot move forward as a country from Friday's humiliating
debacle without the government committing to finally opening its
wartime records," said Michael Mostyn, B'nai Brith Canada's CEO.
>
> Parliament 'tarnished,' NDP MP says
>
> Government House Leader Karina Gould, who is of Jewish
descent, said she's horrified she celebrated Hunka. The Ontario
MP also posed for a picture with the man after Friday's
festivities.
>
> She said Rota should have never invited "someone like this."
>
> She said the outgoing Speaker was also "very misleading" when
he encouraged parliamentarians to stand and applaud a Nazi
collaborator.
>
> "Imagine the Jewish community sitting down to Yom Kippur and
having somebody that is affiliated with the SS and the horrific
murders taking place in Eastern Europe being honoured in the
House of Commons," Julian added, referring to the Jewish high
holiday.
>
> "Where is the prime minister? Why is he hiding?" Conservative
Leader Pierre Poilievre said.
>
> "Our nation's reputation is in tatters. Will he stand up and
apologize for this mess he helped create?" he added, trying to
link Rota's invitation to the Prime Minister's Office.
>
> "Has there ever been a greater diplomatic embarrassment in the
history of our country? I mean it literally.
>
> Rota initially resisted calls to resign. But he lost the
support of some key Liberal cabinet ministers — a sign that his
position had become increasingly tenuous.
>
> It wasn't just the invitation — Rota also recognized Hunka as
a "Canadian hero" in the House of Commons and prompted a
standing ovation.
>
> "What happened on Friday is completely unacceptable. It was an
embarrassment to the House and Canadians," Foreign Affairs
Minister Mélanie Joly told reporters Tuesday.
>
> Joly also said she's spoken to her Ukrainian counterpart about
the incident, which has had global repercussions.
>
> Trudeau stopped short of saying Rota should resign but made it
clear where he stands.
>
> "This was deeply embarrassing for the House and for Canada,"
Trudeau said.
>
> Health Minister Mark Holland, who recently served as
government House leader and worked closely with the Speaker in
that role, said Rota is "a profoundly good man" and the last few
days have been "incredibly difficult" for him and those who know
him well.
>
>
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Canada
DIR By: .
Date: September 26, 2023, 8:51 pm
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HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/25/canadas-house-speaker-apologises-after-praising-ukrainian-veteran-who-fought-for-nazis
Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian
veteran of Nazi unit
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>
>
> Jewish groups voice anger over standing ovation for Yaroslav
Hunka, 98, after Volodymyr Zelenskiy speech
>
> Canada has become embroiled in an escalating political
controversy after members of its House of Commons were
encouraged to join in a standing ovation for an individual who
fought in Ukraine with a Nazi military unit accused of war
crimes during the second world war.
>
> Images from the Canadian parliament showed Zelenskiy and the
Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, standing and applauding
Hunka, in scenes condemned by Jewish groups. As lawmakers
cheered, Zelenskiy raised his fist in acknowledgment as Hunka
saluted from the gallery during two separate standing ovations.
>
> The Kremlin on Monday called the incident “outrageous” and
pictures of Zelenskiy were quickly seized on by pro-Kremlin
social media accounts.
>
> The decision to allow about 600 members of the division to
live in Canada after the second world war has long been a source
of controversy in Canada, and was the subject of a government
commission of inquiry in the 1980s into whether Canada had
become a haven for war criminals.
>
> The Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs, a Canadian Jewish
group, said it was “deeply troubled” that a veteran of a Nazi
division that participated in the genocide of Jews had been
celebrated.
>
> Jewish groups have long campaigned against two memorials in
Canada connected to Ukrainians who fought on the German side.
>
> Dominique Arel, the chair of Ukrainian studies at the
University of Ottawa, told Canada’s public broadcaster CBC that
the division Hunka was part of had attracted thousands of
Ukrainian volunteers, many joining with hopes they could achieve
Ukrainian independence.
>
> Zelenskiy was in Ottawa to bolster support from western allies
for Ukraine’s fight against the Russian invasion. Vladimir Putin
has painted his enemies in Ukraine as “neo-Nazis”
>
> The row also raises uncomfortable questions surrounding the
memorialising of prominent Ukrainian figures who fought
alongside Nazi forces during the war.
>
> In his speech to Canadian lawmakers, Zelenskiy noted that the
city of Edmonton was the first to commemorate victims of the
Holodomor, the mass famine inflicted on Ukrainians that killed
millions in the early 1930s. The city erected a memorial in 1983
in recognition of the 50th anniversary of the famine.
>
> On the issue of the Galicia division, the commission’s head,
Jules Deschênes, ruled that members “should not be indicted as a
group”.
>
> “The members of Galicia division were individually screened
for security purposes before admission to Canada. Charges of war
crimes of Galicia division have never been substantiated, either
in 1950 when they were first preferred, or in 1984 when they
were renewed, or before this commission.”
>
>
>
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: WhyNow?
Date: September 27, 2023, 1:02 pm
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Gravitas: Canada's troubling history with Nazi soldiers,
unmasking a disturbing WWII legacy
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnveodQTXHQ
Comments:
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> There are nah tsees in every country opposed to Russia. You
can clearly see the ideology. How else does Zelensky get
invited into parliaments and Congress!?!
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> to be fair, almost all countries you are referring to also has
people who died fighting "nah tsees" as well. But I do agree
with the notion that it is an odd coincidence considering
Putin's accusations of Ukraine not too long ago.
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::) ;D
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: rp
Date: November 11, 2023, 1:11 am
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[img]
HTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKclVV2XwAAbnw8?format=jpg&name=900x900[/img]
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 21, 2023, 7:14 pm
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What we already knew:
HTML https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88-01314R000100360016-9.pdf
[img]
HTML https://incels.is/attachments/1700600728022-png.964646/[/img]
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> The U.S. Census Bureau has been asked to in-
> clude a question on religious affiliation in the
> 1980 census by 15 directors of the Religious Re-
> search Association. The question about religious
> affiliation was dropped from the 1960 and 1970
> census due to the demand of Jewish groups. Re-
> velation of the true number of Jews in the U.S.
> would undermine the myth that the Nazis killed
> six million Jews. The truth is, there are six million
> more Jews in the U.S. than Jewish organizations
> admit.... The Immigration Service reports that
> there are 8 million illegal immigrants in the U.S.
> Actually, there are at least 14 million.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: November 28, 2023, 8:28 pm
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Discriminative Sentiment Towards Colored People were not came
from Hitler Regime, but Previous German regime during World War
I
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> The fact that Germany cast its imperial vision in racial terms
exemplified the entanglement of empire and race in World War
I.30 On October 4, 1914, a group of prominent German
intellectuals published the “Manifesto of the 93” defending
Germany’s invasion of Belgium and conduct during the war in
general. This spirited defense at times took on racialized
imagery: “[I]n the east the earth is saturated with the blood of
women and children unmercifully butchered by the wild Russian
troops, and in the west dumdum bullets mutilate the breasts of
our soldiers. Those who have allied themselves with Russians and
Serbians, and present such a shameful scene to the world as that
of inciting Mongolians and negroes against the white race, have
no right whatever to call themselves upholders of civilization”
(emphases in the original).31 The manifesto used the language of
race in defense of Germany’s struggle to defend its freedom, a
vision of freedom that was thus essentially white.
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Source :
White Freedom The Racial History of an Idea Tyler Edward Stovall
2021 Princeton University Press page 208
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