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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: February 10, 2021, 9:08 pm
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False claim: Hitler quote on controlling people and eroding
freedoms
[quote]Update December 10, 2020: Adding paragraph eight to
include a passage written by Hitler in reference to Germany in
1918.[/quote]
[quote]Users on social media have been sharing a quote
misattributed to Adolf Hitler on his alleged views on how to
control people. Some posts claim the words appeared in Hitler’s
book “Mein Kampf”, which outlined the ideology that formed the
basis for Nazism and set out his hatred of Jews. This is
inaccurate.
As of May 20, 2020, the quote has been shared over 20,940 times
on Facebook. Examples are visible here, here, here, here,
here.
The posts read: “The best way to take control over a people and
control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a
time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost
imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see
those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at
which these changes cannot be reversed. -Adolf Hitler, Mein
Kampf”
The Leibniz Institute for Contemporary History, a research
organization dedicated to the study of German history of the
20th and 21st century ( here ), confirmed to Reuters these
words are misattributed to Hitler. “Whoever invented this quote,
it was not Hitler and it has never been written in Mein Kampf”,
a spokesperson for the Institute told Reuters on email. “We do
not know in which context the author of this post is trying to
manipulate a discussion by an invented "Hitler"-quotation,” they
added.
Professor Timothy Snyder, a historian at Yale University, also
confirmed to Reuters that Hitler’s idea of taking power was very
different from what the quote alleges. “Those words do not
appear in Mein Kampf, nor do they represent Hitler’s beliefs,”
he told Reuters via email. “His idea of taking power was to
discredit traditional sources of factuality in favor of a myth
of a supposedly innocent nation and its supposedly faultless
leader, and to undermine the rule of law by willful violent
actions carried out in the name of a race.” (This is Snyder's
opinion)
Snyder further explained that Hitler came to power by
“exploiting a crisis” and consolidated it by “undermining
constitutional institutions of altering them by mixing them with
his own racial institution, the SS (Schutzstaffel or the
‘political soldiers’ of the Nazi Party bit.ly/2ZobO5B )”.
According to Snyder, Hitler’s conviction was that Germans would
fully support him by “taking them to war”. “He believed that he
was giving the German race its freedom by fighting for resources
instead of pursuing technology, and by destroying an “enemy”
(the Jews),” he said. Snyder also added that those who
supported Hitler before he came to power “glorified weapons and
opposed what they called the ‘system’, by which they meant
parliamentary democracy”.
According to Snopes, the quotation in the claim and its
misattribution to Hitler and Mein Kampf was “virtually
non-existent until 2014”, when it appeared in the book
“Willfully Ignorant” ( bit.ly/2Zlgzg8 ) as a heading to one of
the chapters of the fictional novel by American writer Pat
Miller (here).
At the start of Mein Kampf’s Chapter 15 – The Right to Self
Defense, Hitler made a similar statement to that in the social
media claims (beginning with “A shrewd conqueror will always
enforce his exactions on the conquered only by stages”). This
was in reference to his disagreement over Germany’s new
democratic republic following World War One’s Armistice in 1918
and not reflecting his own policy preferences as a leader.
Some iterations of the claim (visible here) include photo that
is not of Adolf Hitler but a photoshopped image of former
British Prime Minister David Cameron.
Users are resharing this false quote amidst weeks of lockdown
and social isolation worldwide to prevent the spread of the new
coronavirus (here), which has been met with protests and
defiance by some Americans ( here, here).
VERDICT
False. This quote is incorrectly attributed to Adolf Hitler and
historians say the ideas are not representative of his beliefs.
A similar, not identical, passage can be found in Mein Kampf in
reference to Germany’s post-World War One policies, not Hitler’s
own preferences.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read
more about our work to fact-check social media posts
 here.[/quote]
HTML https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hitler-freedom/false-claim-hitler-quote-on-controlling-people-and-eroding-freedoms-idUSKBN22X1W5
It is so refreshing in this world when people can put aside
their biases and assumptions and stick to the facts. How are we
ever supposed to make it to where we are meant to go if we
cannot walk in truth? THAT is what the absolute truth is about,
not false pride and false world views. If your worldview is
based on inaccuracies you cannot ever get to where you would
like to go....
Is Snyder's opinion correct?
[quote]If the government is driving a nationality to its
destruction, the rebellion of every member of that people is not
merely a right, but a duty. Whether or not this condition exists
is not shown by theoretical stories, but it is shown when force
is used against the people and in the success of effort to
suppress the nationality. Of course, every governing power
claims their responsibility is to uphold the authority of the
state no matter how badly they have abused that authority, even
though it has betrayed the interests of a nationality a thousand
times over. In fighting such a power and in winning freedom or
independence, the peoples’ instinct for self-preservation will
have to use the same weapon used by its adversary. That is to
say the battle will be carried on by “legal” means as long as
the power which is being overthrown also uses legal methods, but
the
insurgents should not hesitate to use illegal means if the
oppressor employs them. Never forget that the highest purpose of
man’s existence is the preservation of his own kind and not the
maintenance of a state or government. The question of legality
is secondary if the survival of the race is at stake and they
may be pushed aside or destroyed. Even though the methods used
by the ruling power are a thousand times “legal”, the
self-preservation of the oppressed is always the most noble
justification for a struggle using any and every weapon. The
truth of this statement can be seen by anyone, and this earth’s
history shows tremendous examples in the wars of independence
against inward or outward enslavement of peoples.
The law of humanity is above the law of the state. However, if a
people are defeated in their struggle for human rights, this
means those people are not favored on the scale of Fate and they
are not slated to remain on this world. The world will not be
possessed by those who are weak-willed.
Using Austria as a clear and striking example, it is easy to see
how a tyranny can wrap itself up in so-called “legality”. The
legal power of the state once rested with the anti-German
foundation of the Parliament with its non-German majority and on
the equally anti-German ruling House. These elements embodied
the entire authority of the state. Any attempt to change the
German-Austrian people through these groups would have been
nonsense. Consequently, our admirers of the “legal” way as the
only “permissible” one, and those admirers of the state’s
authority itself were bound to think that all resistance must be
abandoned because it could not be carried on by legal means. —
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, pg. 64[/quote]
It would be interesting to know what Snyder makes of the
American Revolution wouldn't it? Whose side do you think Hitler
would have been on in that conflict?
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: February 13, 2021, 9:13 pm
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Putin Won’t Have It! WWII Was West’s Fault! Hitler Was Created
and Pushed to Attack Russia!
[quote]Vladimir Putin: “There's nothing good about
totalitarianism. But putting the Soviet Union on the same level
as fascist Germany is as cynical as can be."[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rim2aTobAg
Reminder:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/
Putin is full of it. Russia is part of Western civilization and
always has been! Hitler was anti-Western!!!
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/german-colonial-empire/
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: rp Date: February 14, 2021, 12:32 pm
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Allied leaders were anti-Nazi, not anti-racist:
HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/04/29/allied-leaders-were-anti-nazi-not-anti-racist-were-now-paying-price-their-failure/
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: February 15, 2021, 2:04 pm
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Hitler Speaks on the plight of Sudeten Germans and the hypocrisy
of the democratic nations
[quote]Adolf Hitler speaks about the plight of the Sudeten
Germans in Czechoslovakia and the total hypocrisy of the
democratic nations in their condemnations of Germany, and in
their failure to intervene on behalf of the abused ethnic
Germans in the Sudetenland. He compares them to the "defenceless
Palestinians" who are even then being abused while under British
authority and he states that the Sudetens are not defenceless,
will not suffer their fate, and that the German Reich will do
what is necessary to relieve their suffering
(12-9-1938).[/quote]
HTML https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=WppUD9IpODU
Adolf Hitler’s Address on the Sudeten Germans
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym8led_1ZS4
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: February 18, 2021, 7:59 pm
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(No, the following images are not satirical pieces).
[img]
HTML https://wearswar.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/daseqhkvqaakshg-large.jpg?w=616[/img]
[img width=960
height=1280]
HTML https://codoh.com/media/files/images/vuedh4_371.jpg[/img]
[quote]Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Sep 12, 2005
12:20 pm)
There seems to be some form of mental illness at work in those
that push this bizarre nonsense. It's as if they wish it were
true and revel in their invented misery. [/quote]
Do you think?
[quote]Stalag (Hebrew:
סטאלג‎) was a short-lived
genre of Nazi exploitation Holocaust pornography in Israel that
flourished in the 1950s and early 1960s, and stopped after the
time of the Eichmann Trial, because of a ban by the Israeli
government.[1] These books did not include Jews to avoid taboos.
They are no longer available for a reading today in terms of
traditional publication, although the advent of the Internet has
allowed for peer-to-peer file sharing. [/quote]
[quote]Purported to be translations of English-language books by
prisoners in concentration camps, these books were highly
pornographic accounts of imprisonment, generally of Allied
soldiers, sexual brutalization by female SS guards (or in some
cases by Imperial Japanese women), and the prisoners' eventual
revenge, which usually consisted of the **** and murder of their
tormentors.[2] The books, with titles like I Was Colonel
Schultz's Private ****, were especially popular among adolescent
boys, often the children of concentration camp survivors.
[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalag_fiction
HTML https://frame.lan
d/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/stalag-cover-2.jpg
Nothing to see here folks! Carry on! This is all perfectly
normal! Oh! And never forget, it's always been everyone else's
fault to why Jews are treated they way they are by the rest of
humanity throughout human history! Jewish behavior has nothing
to do with this at all!!!
Has any other group of people ever been expelled from countries
as many times as Jews? I bet you cannot find a group of people
you have even been expelled a tenth as many times as Jews have?
Expulsions and exoduses of Jews
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Expulsion_judios-en.svg/1280px-Expulsion_judios-en.svg.png
Expulsions of Jews in Europe from 1100 to 1600
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: christianbethel Date: March 19, 2021, 3:18 pm
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I hope this thread delves into the true causes and reasons
behind the Invasion of Poland. Churchill, Lord Halifax, and
Stalin all lured Hitler into a trap which he tragically sprung.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: Dazhbog Date: March 19, 2021, 7:14 pm
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[quote author=christianbethel link=topic=40.msg4962#msg4962
date=1616185083]I hope this thread delves into the true causes
and reasons behind the Invasion of Poland. Churchill, Lord
Halifax, and Stalin all lured Hitler into a trap which he
tragically sprung.[/quote]
Are you implying that Hitler should have simply looked the other
way while Poland was slaughtering its German, Ukrainian,
Belarusian and Lithuanian minorities, as well as training
Zionist paramilitaries?
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: April 5, 2021, 6:25 pm
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The Rhine Meadows Camps - What Really Happened?
[quote]The Rhine Meadows Camps are a controversial topic, but
the truth of what happened is easily established.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icFKdMw7nT8
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: April 6, 2021, 6:39 pm
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The Chinese Wehrmacht Panzer Commander: Chiang Wei-kuo
[quote]When the Wehrmacht rolled into Austria in 1938 during the
Anschluss, there was one officer commanding a Panzer regiment
that stood out. He wasn't a German, and frankly, wasn't even
European. Chiang Wei-kuo was the son of China's generalissimo
Chiang Kai-shek, received military education in Bavaria, and
even commanded a Panzer regiment as Germany annexed their
southern neighbour.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-7OpFlQOg
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: guest5 Date: April 10, 2021, 2:29 am
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Waffen-SS: Elite or Mass-Army?
[quote]Waffen-SS divisions are often portrayed as an elite
formations, yet, this view misses that the Waffen-SS had a large
amount of divisions with very different combat records. This
video takes a closer look at the Waffen-SS based on academic
sources and will also explain why many statements of the
Waffen-SS divisions are just wrong, since they don't account for
the heterogeneity of the various divisions.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4RveXKfrIk
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