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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: antihellenistic Date: September 24, 2024, 9:17 pm
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Result of Hitler's Bombing of London during 1940s (London Blitz)
[quote]A few days into the Blitz, Churchill visited the
docklands in the East End of London. ‘Fires were still raging
all over the place,’ wrote Ismay, ‘some of the larger buildings
were mere skeletons, and many of the smaller houses had been
reduced to rubble. The sight of tiny paper Union Jacks which had
already been planted on two or three of these pathetic heaps
brought a lump to one’s throat.’4
Their first stop was an air-raid shelter where forty people had
been killed and many more wounded by a direct hit the previous
night. There, Ismay remembered,
we found a big crowd, male and female, young and old, but all
seemingly very poor. One might have expected them to be
resentful against the authorities responsible for their
protection; but, as Churchill got out of the car, they literally
mobbed him. ‘Good old Winnie,’ they cried. ‘We thought you’d
come and see us. We can take it. Give it ’em back.’ Churchill
broke down, and as I was struggling to get to him through the
crowd, I heard an old woman say ‘You see, he really cares: he’s
crying.’2[/quote]
Source :
Churchill: Walking With Destiny by Andrew Roberts page 602
HTML https://archive.org/details/churchill-walking-with-destiny_202102/page/n601/mode/2up
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: antihellenistic Date: September 27, 2024, 3:08 am
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Queen Elizabeth (1900 - 2002) and King George VI (1895 - 1952)
inspect the bomb damage at Buckingham Palace in London, after an
air raid during the Blitz, 10th September 1940. (Image: (Photo
by Fox Photos/Hulton Archive/Getty Images))
HTML https://i2-prod.mylondon.new
s/incoming/article23452963.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_GettyImages-101
687160.jpg
Source :
Royal Family: Incredible forgotten photos of Buckingham Palace
hit by a bomb with the Queen's mum and dad staring into a huge
crater
HTML https://www.mylondon.new
s/news/nostalgia/gallery/royal-family-incredible-forgotten-photo
s-23452915
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Re: True Left breakthrough: anti-democracy
By: antihellenistic Date: October 29, 2024, 7:47 pm
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[quote]"The recognition of the plurality of autonomous life
would, however, immediately lead back to a disastrous pluralism
tearing the German people apart into discrete classes and
religious, ethnic, social, and interest groups if it were not
for a strong state which guarantees a totality of political
unity transcending all diversity."[/quote]
Carl Schmitt, The Legal Basis of the Total State (1933)
[quote]“Every actual democracy rests on the principle that not
only are equals equal, but unequals will not be treated equally.
Democracy requires, therefore, first homogeneity and second – if
the need arises – elimination or eradication of
heterogeneity.”[/quote]
— Carl Schmitt, The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: antihellenistic Date: November 1, 2024, 5:45 pm
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[quote author=antihellenistic link=topic=40.msg16059#msg16059
date=1665734491]
Was Hitler Really Wanted Peace with Britain?
The answer was Hitler not really wanted peace with Britain. He
wanted to invade her but the British airpowers defeated his both
airpowers and naval powers which made long time recover. British
used radar-technology to made her warplanes easily found the
Hitler's warplanes and shot them down. And their fighterplanes
attacked back with bombed the Hitler's ports, ships, and
headquarters which used for preparation to invade Britain on
French-occupied territory. And also Hitler's naval powers not
yet to match the Britain's naval power during that time which
made invasion of Britain harder during 1940. See this
information :
Source : "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of
Nazi Germany, Arrow books 1991." by William L. Shirer
Book can be read on this link/URL :
HTML https://archive.org/details/B-001-014-606/page/780/mode/2up
Read only the sentences which given bold if you don't have time
to read all the quoted contents
[quote]...fortunately for posterity and the truth, the
mountainous secret German military files leave no doubt that
Hitler’s plan to invade Britain in the early fall of 1940 was
deadly serious and that, though given to many hesitations,
the Nazi dictator seriously intended to carry it out if there
were any reasonable chance of success. Its ultimate fate was
settled not by any lack of determination or effort but by the
fortunes of war, which now, for the first time, began to turn
against him.[/quote]
(Page 762)
[quote]...the Naval War Staff had estimated that to fulfill the
demands of the Army for landing 100,000 men with equipment and
supplies in the first wave, along a 200-mile front from amsgate
to Lyme Bay, would necessitate rounding up 1,722 barges, 1,161
motorboats, 471 tugs and 155 transports. Even if it were
possible to assemble such a vast amount of shipping, Raeder told
Hitler on July 25, it would wreck the German economy, since
taking away so many barges and tugs would destroy the whole
inland-waterway transportation system, on which the economic
life of the country largely depended.16 At any rate, Raeder
made it clear, the protection of such an armada trying to supply
such a broad front against the certain attacks of the British
Navy and Air Force was beyond the powers of the German naval
forces.[/quote]
(page 766)
[quote]British light naval forces bombarded the chief Channel
invasion ports, Ostend,Calais, Boulogne and Cherbourg, while the
R.A.F. sank eighty barges in Ostend Harbor. In Berlin that day
Hitler conferred with his service chiefs at lunch. He thought
the air war was going very well and declared that he had no
intention of running the risk of invasion.24 In fact, Jodl got
the impression from the Fuehrer’s remarks that he had
“apparently decided to abandon Sea Lion completely,” an
impression which was accurate for that day, as Hitler confirmed
the following day — when, however, he again changed his
mind.[/quote]
(page 770)
...
[quote]...two hundred German bombers, escorted by three
times as many fighters, appeared over the Channel about
midday, headed for London. Fighter Command had watched the
assembling of the attackers on its radar screens and was ready.
The Germans were intercepted before they approached the
capital, and though some planes got through, many were
dispersed and others shot down before they could deliver their
bomb load. Two hours later an even stronger German formation
returned and was routed. Though the British claimed to have shot
down 185 Luftwaffeplanes, the actual figure, as learned after
the war from the Berlin archives, was much lower — fifty-six,
but thirty-four of these were bombers. The R.A.F. lost only
twenty-six aircraft.
...
The German Navy, crippled by the losses off Norway in the early
spring, was unable, as its chiefs admitted all along, to provide
the sea power for an invasion of Britain. Without this, and
without air supremacy, the German Army was helpless to move
across the narrow Channel waters. For the first time in the war
Hitler had been stopped, his plans of further conquest
frustrated, and just at the moment, as we have seen, when he was
certain that final victory had been achieved He had never
conceived — nor had anyone else up to that time — that a
decisive battle could be decided in the air. Nor perhaps did he
yet realize as the dark winter settled over Europe that a
handful of British fighter pilots, by thwarting his invasion,
had preserved England as a great base for the possible
reconquest of the Continent from the west at a later date. His
thoughts were perforce turning elsewhere; in fact, as we shall
see,had already turned[/quote]
(page 781 - 782)
What if Hitler's soldiers successfully invade Britain? See this
information below.
[quote]The Nazi German occupation of Britain would not
have been a gentle affair. The captured German papers
leave no doubt of that. On September 9 Brauchitsch, the
Commander in Chief of the Army, signed a directive
providing that “the able-bodied male population between
the ages of seventeen and forty-five [in Britain] will,
unless the local situation calls for an exceptional
ruling, be interned and dispatched to the Continent.”
Orders to this effect were sent out a few days later
by the Quartermaster General, in OKH, to the Ninth and
Sixteenth armies, which were assembled for the invasion.
In no other conquered country, not even in Poland, had
the Germans begun with such a drastic step. Brauchitsch’s
instructions were headed “Orders Concerning the
Organization and Function of Military Government in
England” and went into considerable detail. They seem
designed to ensure the systematic plunder of the island
and the terrorization of its inhabitants. A special
“Military Economic Staff England” was set up on July 27
to achieve the first aim. Everything but normal household
stocks was to be confiscated at once. Hostages would be
taken. Anybody posting a placard the Germans didn’t like
would be liable to immediate execution, and a similar
penalty was provided for those who failed to turn in
firearms or radio sets within twenty four hours.
Actually, already in August Heydrich had organized six
[color=red]Einsatzkommando for Britain which were to
operate from headquarters in London, Bristol, Birmingham,
Liverpool, Manchester and Edinburgh — or in Glasgow, if
the Forth Bridge was found blown up. They were to
carry out Nazi terror;[/color] to begin with, they were
to arrest all those on the “Special Search List, G.B.
[Great Britain],” which in May had been hurriedly and
care- lessly compiled by Walter Schellenberg, another one
of Himmler’s bright young university graduates, who was
then chief of Amt (Bureau) IV E— Counterespionage — of
R.S.H.A. Or so Schellenberg later claimed, though at this
time he was mainly occupied in Lisbon, Portugal, on a
bizarre mission to kidnap the Duke of Windsor. [/quote]
(Page 783)
...
[quote]This Nazi Black Book actually formed a supplement
to a supposedly highly secret handbook called
Informationsheft, which Schellenberg also claims to have
written, and whose purpose seems to have been to aid
the conquerors in looting Britain and stamping out
anti-German institutions there. It is even more amusing
than the Search List. Among the dangerous institutions,
besides the Masonic lodges and Jewish organizations, which
deserved “special attention” by R.S.H.A., were the
“public schools” (in England, the private schools), the
Church of England, which was described as “a powerful
tool of British imperial politics,” and the Boy Scouts,
which was put down as “an excellent source of
information for the British Intelligence Service.” Its
revered leader and founder, Lord Baden Powell, was to be
immediately arrested. [/quote]
(Page 784)
Another information about how the British people will got
treated if Hitler succeed on invade Britain. See this
information below.
[quote]The Nazis also had plans for the deportation and
enslavement of 50% of Britain's adult male population in the
event of a successful invasion.[26][/quote]
Source :
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II
HTML https://64.media.tumblr.com/8586d73bcb769f014964151c5c5ba7a8/865ca80cede2d0aa-eb/s1280x1920/c8435b856164cd78d183d89e431a3d2258c4b970.jpg
[/quote]
Authentic source on Hitler's Plan to Conquer Britain
Translated from German into English Language by Google Translate
[quote]Working guidelines for the military administration in
England.
1.) The use of all the country's resources for the purposes of
the fighting troops and for the needs of the German war economy
is the main task of the military administration.
2.) The provision of the country's auxiliary forces presupposes
that security and order prevail. Their maintenance must
therefore be ensured. Administrative measures should not violate
military law unless the enemy has given cause for reprisals.
3.) Irregulars of both sexes must be dealt with in a legal
manner. If the population begins fighting after the town has
been completely conquered or in towns behind the fighting front,
the residents found in Kaspb are considered to be irregulars.
Persons in whom the active enemy has a keen interest should be
taken as hostages.
4.) The military-age population between the ages of 17 and 45 is
to be interned and deported to the mainland as soon as possible,
unless the local authorities deem an exception necessary.
5.) The collection of taxes and other monetary charges is
prohibited for the commanders as well as for the troop leaders.
The right to take decisive measures is reserved for the
Commander-in-Chief of the Army and the departments expressly
authorized by him.
6.) The state laws that came into force before the occupation
continue to apply, provided they do not contradict the purpose
of the occupation.
The state authorities may continue to work if they behave
loyally.[/quote]
Source :
Unterlagen des Generalquartiermeisters im Generalstab des Heeres
beim OKH: Sammelmappe „Militärverwaltung England" - Befehle und
Weisungen über die Organisation und den Einsatz der
Militärverwaltung in England (1) (9. September 1940)
HTML https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/nodes/7336#page/1/mode/grid/zoom/1
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: rp Date: December 4, 2024, 11:37 pm
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Its incredible that Rudolf Hess was the only authentic
(Hitlerist) NSDAP member that lived well into the late 20th
century:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9lM-aaCHJU
The Zionists knew this, and that he would potentially reveal
their lies about the Reich, which is why they locked him up and
probably had him killed.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: rp Date: December 19, 2024, 8:02 pm
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As the "Holocaust" narrative increasingly falls out of fashion
(which the Jews have anticipated), we will increasingly see a
more honest ZC narrative of WW2, that Hitler was still bad
because he was anti Western civilization and Jews are part of
Western civilization.
I even saw the "comedian" Owen Benjamin (Jew) say that the
"Holocaust" was fake but that there was indeed persecution of
Jews.
And yet some idiots in the Aryanism.net comments think talking
about Third Reich revisionism is still getting us somewhere...
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: christianbethel Date: February 2, 2025, 8:17 pm
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[quote author=guest78 link=topic=40.msg14069#msg14069
date=1655232466]
What the World Rejected: Hitler's Peace Offers 1933-1940
Paperback – Illustrated, October 26, 2016
[quote]Written by Germany’s foremost diplomatic historian of the
early twentieth century, this work maps out all the numerous
times that Adolf Hitler made unconditional offers of peace to
all the nations of Europe—and how the major anti-German
belligerents, France and Britain, turned down these offers each
and every time.
The author lists all of Hitler’s offers in detail, complete with
quotes, starting with his first offer of May 17, 1933, his
second offer of December 18, 1933, his third offer of May 21,
1935, his fourth offer of March 31, 1936, his fifth offer of
September 30, 1938, his sixth offer of December 6, 1938, his
seventh offer of late 1939 to Poland to settle the Danzig
Corridor issue peacefully, and finally, his offer of world peace
on October 6, 1939, just over a month after Britain and France
had declared war on Germany for invading Poland on September 1
(but not on the Soviet Union, which also invaded Poland on
September 17).
This edition benefits from four new sections which did not
appear in the original publication. These are:
– The full text of Hitler’s “Appeal for Peace and Sanity”
speech, made before the Reichstag on July 19, 1940, following
the fall of France. Although nearly half the British cabinet
wanted to take up his offer, Churchill’s warmongering put an end
to this final offer of peace;
– Hitler’s Political Testament, dictated just hours before his
death on April 29, 1945, wherein he spelled out once again how
he had tried to avoid the war, and blamed Jewish agitators for
the refusal of other nations to accept his peace offers;
– Hermann Göring’s final letter—from this death cell in
Nuremberg—to Winston Churchill, in which he blamed the latter’s
warmongering on behalf of “Jewish Bolsheviks” for the conflict;
and
– An extract from The Forrestal Diaries, in which the US
Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal quotes British Prime
Minister Neville Chamberlain as complaining that “the world
Jews” have forced England into the war.
Fully reset and illustrated throughout with 22 rare
photographs.[/quote]
HTML https://www.amazon.com/What-World-Rejected-Hitlers-1933-1940/dp/1684186102
HTML https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71o71q2sUuL.jpg
Are many Western powers still anti-German?:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/brexit/
[/quote]
HTML https://z-lib.gs/book/5011468/df6365
Fixed that for you.
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: christianbethel Date: February 3, 2025, 2:33 pm
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[quote author=rp link=topic=40.msg28987#msg28987
date=1734660166]
As the "Holocaust" narrative increasingly falls out of fashion
(which the Jews have anticipated), we will increasingly see a
more honest ZC narrative of WW2, that Hitler was still bad
because he was anti Western civilization and Jews are part of
Western civilization.
I even saw the "comedian" Owen Benjamin (Jew) say that the
"Holocaust" was fake but that there was indeed persecution of
Jews.
And yet some idiots in the Aryanism.net comments think talking
about Third Reich revisionism is still getting us somewhere...
[/quote]
Hey man, don't look at me. JJ was the one who made the thread
about Western revisionism of the world wars. I support him in
that endeavor, but I realize we should be focusing on activism
and ideological discussion. Problem is, every time we get into a
discussion we're just branded as 'Nazis' and kicked out of
wherever we try to perform activism (at least in my personal
experience).
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: antihellenistic Date: February 4, 2025, 2:42 am
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[quote author=christianbethel link=topic=40.msg29290#msg29290
date=1738549035]
[quote author=guest78 link=topic=40.msg14069#msg14069
date=1655232466]
What the World Rejected: Hitler's Peace Offers 1933-1940
Paperback – Illustrated, October 26, 2016
[quote]Written by Germany’s foremost diplomatic historian of the
early twentieth century, this work maps out all the numerous
times that Adolf Hitler made unconditional offers of peace to
all the nations of Europe—and how the major anti-German
belligerents, France and Britain, turned down these offers each
and every time.
The author lists all of Hitler’s offers in detail, complete with
quotes, starting with his first offer of May 17, 1933, his
second offer of December 18, 1933, his third offer of May 21,
1935, his fourth offer of March 31, 1936, his fifth offer of
September 30, 1938, his sixth offer of December 6, 1938, his
seventh offer of late 1939 to Poland to settle the Danzig
Corridor issue peacefully, and finally, his offer of world peace
on October 6, 1939, just over a month after Britain and France
had declared war on Germany for invading Poland on September 1
(but not on the Soviet Union, which also invaded Poland on
September 17).
This edition benefits from four new sections which did not
appear in the original publication. These are:
– The full text of Hitler’s “Appeal for Peace and Sanity”
speech, made before the Reichstag on July 19, 1940, following
the fall of France. Although nearly half the British cabinet
wanted to take up his offer, Churchill’s warmongering put an end
to this final offer of peace;
– Hitler’s Political Testament, dictated just hours before his
death on April 29, 1945, wherein he spelled out once again how
he had tried to avoid the war, and blamed Jewish agitators for
the refusal of other nations to accept his peace offers;
– Hermann Göring’s final letter—from this death cell in
Nuremberg—to Winston Churchill, in which he blamed the latter’s
warmongering on behalf of “Jewish Bolsheviks” for the conflict;
and
– An extract from The Forrestal Diaries, in which the US
Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal quotes British Prime
Minister Neville Chamberlain as complaining that “the world
Jews” have forced England into the war.
Fully reset and illustrated throughout with 22 rare
photographs.[/quote]
HTML https://www.amazon.com/What-World-Rejected-Hitlers-1933-1940/dp/1684186102
HTML https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71o71q2sUuL.jpg
Are many Western powers still anti-German?:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/brexit/
[/quote]
HTML https://z-lib.gs/book/5011468/df6365
Fixed that for you.
[/quote]
Hitler wanted the war, and he intended to expand his territory,
there's nothing wrong with it, as long it resulting the defeat
of Western Civilization and it's cultural influences
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Re: Western Revisionism of WWI and WWII
By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 4, 2025, 4:39 pm
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"Hitler wanted the war, and he intended to expand his territory"
Yes, but his intention was to expand eastwards first:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drang_nach_Osten#Lebensraum_concept_of_Nazi_Germany
[quote]Adolf Hitler, dictator of Nazi Germany from 1933–1945,
advocated for a Drang nach Osten to acquire territory for German
colonists at the expense of central and eastern European nations
(Lebensraum). The term, by then, had gained enough currency to
appear in foreign newspapers without explanation.[19] Nazi
propaganda depicted Eastern Europe as historically Germanic
territories, promoting the myth that these regions were stolen
from Aryan races by Hunnic and Avar tribes.[20] Hitler viewed
Slavs as primitive subhumans and for this reason detested the
German empire's alliance with Austria-Hungary during World War
I. In his works such as Mein Kampf and Zweites Buch, Hitler
viewed the Slavs as lacking the capability to form a state.[21]
Anti-Slavism was also a core doctrine of Nazi ideology, which
considered Slavs to be racially inferior Untermensch.[/quote]
Thus it made strategic sense for him to want to avoid war on the
western front in addition to war on the eastern front. This
accounts for his peace offers with Britain etc.. It also made
strategic sense for Churchill to reject his offers. Had Britain
accepted the offers, National Socialist Germany could have
defeated Russia and then, being both no longer threatened by
Russian invasion and in possession of Russian resources, would
have been in a much stronger position from which to threaten
Britain. Churchill already knew that Hitler wanted independence
for British colonies, thus his priority was to ensure that
Hitler was incapable of effectively pressuring Britain to
surrender its colonies.
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