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       Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 23, 2024, 3:23 am
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       Classify Vivek: Oval with wide lower face, or smoothened
       oblong?:
       Younger pic, note smoothness and narrower lower face:
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       Current pic, note wider lower jaw, but no significant reduction
       in smoothness, and overall no significant change in face shape
       (I will say the jaw is heavier. So perhaps it is a case of
       "robust oval"?):
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       #Post#: 26076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 23, 2024, 4:00 am
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       The younger pic doesn't actually help convince me, as this is
       the one where the oblongness is apparent. The middle pic looks
       almost square, but I understand it was shot from below so let's
       disregard it completely. In the last pic, note how the width at
       eye-level is narrower than the width below (also no Aryan
       teeth). Caricaturists have also noticed this:
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       Verdict: not Oval.
       #Post#: 26077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 23, 2024, 5:23 am
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       Well, at least he will go down in history as the most
       Aryan/non-anthropocentric candidate IMO (not from a phenotype
       perspective, obviously). As I said earlier, India must lead the
       world in restoring non-anthropocentrism, which can be done
       through its immigrant population (although other "non White"
       ethnicities are also welcome, as Aryan blood is probably just as
       rare in those populations as it is in the Indian population.)
       Family photo:
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       His mother is the most Aryan leaning of the bunch.
       Also, just found this childhood pic:
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       Note the dolichocephaly and high gonial angle..
       #Post#: 26096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 24, 2024, 12:27 pm
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       I would like to know, would you classify me as oval? I should
       note that I have Aryan teeth, but they are currently shifted and
       straightened due to orthodontic treatment. I only had this done
       as part of restorative procedure to "fix" an incorrect wisdom
       tooth extraction: I had a molar removed when I went to got to go
       get my wisdom tooth extracted, so I had to get braces to move my
       wisdom tooth into the place of my old molar. Of course "fixing"
       the crowding was also a part of the treatment as the braces were
       to be placed on all my teeth, which I (regrettably) agreed to. I
       should note they will probably shift back if I take my retainers
       off as the treatment was done after my skull had most likely
       fully developed.
       I think this sometimes give my face a rather artificial
       appearance.
       #Post#: 26097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 24, 2024, 1:48 pm
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       I am not sure how to classify you, as your hairstyle in the
       picture you sent me obscures too much the upper part of your
       skull. Your facial features appear enlarged relative to your
       skull perimeter; I am not sure whether this impression is caused
       by camera, hairstyle, or something else. For example, your
       eyebrows appear very close to the top of your head, comparing
       with the model skulls I have posted where there is always plenty
       of vertical room above the eyebrows before reaching the top.
       #Post#: 26099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 24, 2024, 2:08 pm
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       I raise my eyebrows before taking a picture (which is why you
       can see wrinkles), but yes, my hair is obscuring part of my
       forehead. As for facial features, which ones are you referring
       to specifically? (Nose, lips, brow ridge?)
       My mouth may appear wide due to orthodontics straightening my
       teeth.
       #Post#: 26100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 24, 2024, 2:19 pm
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       I have a picture from before my treatment, but that was when I
       also had wisdom teeth, which were distorting my face shape.
       #Post#: 26101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 24, 2024, 5:43 pm
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       "which ones are you referring to specifically"
       All.
       #Post#: 26106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 24, 2024, 11:49 pm
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       I see. I will admit, my nose bridge and brow ridge are rather
       heavy, especially when viewed from the side. I would say my face
       is a mix between oval and oblong. Now that I think of it, no one
       in my family has an oval shape (even my mother is more ellipse
       than oval), except my brother when he was younger, but now even
       he has gotten a longer skull (although he has lighter features,
       shallower eye sockets, and more dolichocephaly than myself). I
       don't even think I had an oval face when I was younger. I have a
       picture of my brother when he was younger, can I send it to you
       and you say whether it is oval (I will try to find a younger
       picture of myself next)?
       Puberty definitely hit both of us hard. I could notice the
       behavioral changes in myself becoming more short tempered,
       angry, aggressive, etc.
       #Post#: 26108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 25, 2024, 12:02 am
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       "I have a picture of my brother when he was younger, can I send
       it to you and you say whether it is oval (I will try to find a
       younger picture of myself next)?"
       OK, but I also hope you get back to:
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