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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 10, 2023, 10:00 pm
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"I'm not certain it is men with non-Aryan blood memory."
So I guess that answers the second part of my question?:
[quote]do you agree that it was not naturally selected against?
Perhaps it was sexually selected against by the farmers (again,
why?)?[/quote]
Ergo, neither the farmers nor natural selection would have
necessarily eliminated this trait?
" It could be men with Aryan blood memory prioritizing face over
body. Surely (I hope) you wouldn't be attracted to a skinny fat
woman without an Aryan face?"
No way. I wouldn't even prefer an ectomorph with a non-Aryan
face. Now that we have gotten my preferences out of the way,
which of the two I mentioned would you prefer (if you had to
choose), if you don't mind me asking?
"But are you saying that a truly ectomorphic woman (even if
facially at least as beautiful as Kaur) is less able to give you
this feeling?"
With an ectomorph it is different. In particular, if they are
shorter than me, although I feel sexually attracted to them, the
feeling of attraction (while certainly surpassing my feelings of
attraction toward skinny-fat women with Aryan faces of similar
stature, to the point of manifesting in reproductive desire) is
not the same. I recognize that the height difference between
genders is simply a biological fact, but one cannot deny the
sexual dynamics at play. It is not necessarily a negative thing,
as I view them to be more neotenous (perhaps even more so than
myself), and I am drawn toward their childlike innocence. I feel
this way with shorter skinny-fat women with Aryan faces as well,
but with them, this attraction manifests in a somewhat
patriarchal impulse of a "caring father/older brother".
On the other hand, an ectomorphic woman who is as facially
beautiful as Kaur but taller than me would certainly illicit a
greater feeling of attraction (even reproductive desire) than
both ectomorphic women of smaller stature with Aryan faces and
non-ectomorphic women with Aryan faces of similar stature (i.e.
Kaur herself). This would not be the same feeling as with Kaur,
but certainly something similar.
Ultimately, I don't think either the matriarchal impulse (which
I suspect is either a result of Stockholm syndrome or the "fake
love" hormone oxytocin) or the patriarchal impulse (which is
tied to carnal/"paedophilic" (i.e. loving someone because they
are a child) desire) are good emotions but rather "lower
emotions", so ectomorphs not eliciting this reaction should be a
good thing.
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 10, 2023, 10:09 pm
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Also:
"It could be men with Aryan blood memory prioritizing face over
body."
The racial reason behind this could be that an Aryan face would
indicate superior character (i.e. greater empathy due to the
high forehead) as well as ergonomic advantage in farming due to
more gracile bones, while a skinny-fat body would not
necessarily indicate Aryan personality traits nor afford
ergonomic advantage (due to the reasons I mentioned earlier).
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 11, 2023, 12:19 am
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"which of the two I mentioned would you prefer (if you had to
choose), if you don't mind me asking?"
Aryan face + insufficiently ectomorphic body > non-Aryan face +
sufficiently ectomorphic body, definitely!
On the other hand, if both faces are sufficiently Aryan, but
with the slightly better face on the less ectomorphic body, then
it could go either way (case-by-case judgement).
"if they are shorter than me,"
"I am drawn toward their childlike innocence."
Even if they are older in age??
"I feel this way with shorter skinny-fat women with Aryan faces
as well, but with them, this attraction manifests in a somewhat
patriarchal impulse of a "caring father/older brother"."
So again, even if they are older than you, you would still feel
like you are their father/older brother just because they are
shorter than you??
"On the other hand, an ectomorphic woman who is as facially
beautiful as Kaur but taller than me would certainly illicit a
greater feeling of attraction (even reproductive desire) than
both ectomorphic women of smaller stature with Aryan faces and
non-ectomorphic women with Aryan faces of similar stature (i.e.
Kaur herself)."
This brings us to another point. You previously said:
[quote]I suspect that this impulse is what makes young pre-teen
boys attracted to somewhat sexually mature teenage/adult
women[/quote]
Might we have stumbled on another mechanism leading to
Eurocentrism? Are "whites" perceived as more mature and thus
more attractive to those attracted to maturity? Is Eurocentrism
stronger among those with a general tendency to be attracted to
maturity?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 15, 2023, 8:05 pm
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"Even if they are older in age??"
Depends on their behavior. Also depends on whether or not I know
their age beforehand. If I do not know their age beforehand, but
they are childlike in their disposition, I will not feel that
feeling as much as I would if I were interacting with a person
whom I know is younger but acts similarly. If I do know their
age beforehand, and they are older, and they are childlike in
their disposition, I will most definitely not feel this emotion.
"Might we have stumbled on another mechanism leading to
Eurocentrism? Are "whites" perceived as more mature and thus
more attractive to those attracted to maturity? Is Eurocentrism
stronger among those with a general tendency to be attracted to
maturity?"
This could be likely. We should investigate if "non-Whites" who
lust after "cougars" are also Eurocentric (probably likely since
the term is Western in origin). However, there is also a
non-Eurocentric form of this lust (e.g. aunties).
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 16, 2023, 3:30 am
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"there is also a non-Eurocentric form of this lust (e.g.
aunties)."
I think this is a structurally distinct archetype. Whereas
attraction to cougars is on account of them being perceived as
having more sexual experience compared to younger women,
attraction to aunties it is almost the opposite: it is on
account of a presumption that their generation was on average
less promiscuous than more recent generations and hence they are
actually expected to have less sexual experience than younger
women.
(I personally give a bonus to women who reach menopause without
reproducing, as I can henceforth look at them with certainty
that they will never be reproducing. In contrast, when I look at
young women who have not yet reproduced, I pessimistically
estimate that many of them will end up reproducing in the
future, therefore they are at best on probation in my mind.)
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Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
By: rp Date: April 17, 2024, 7:45 pm
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Hanania himself has very ghoulish physiognomy, which is why his
detractors on the far right call him "Jewish" a lot:
[Img]
HTML https://www.econlib.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/hanania.png[/img]
I myself don't see that much facial Turanism, just heavy
features.
In fact, his overall smooth skull and facial ovalness indicates
some Aryan blood. (He has spoken out against factory farming and
has conceded the ethical superiority of veganism, despite
himself being a meat eater).
But his Eurocentrism certainly indicates non Aryan blood.
What do you think?
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Re: Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 17, 2024, 8:53 pm
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"ovalness"
Perhaps we need a new Ellipse category to put this shape into.
Here is a better angle to show you what I mean:
[img]
HTML https://www.harpercollins.com/cdn/shop/articles/55030_dab8f391-f38f-46e9-8824-4d1c4753970b_1200x1200.jpg?v=1712788007[/img]
His skull is widest in the middle and narrows both upwards and
downwards. The Ellipse can be considered a reduced Oblong.
"What do you think?"
A bullet hole would improve his skull.
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Re: Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
By: rp Date: April 17, 2024, 9:04 pm
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Ok. Would you classify this particular face shape as Turanian or
Gentile or Aryan?
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Re: Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
By: rp Date: April 17, 2024, 9:11 pm
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"The Ellipse can be considered a reduced Oblong."
Ellipse = elongated "Aryan"
Oblong = elongated robust "Aryan"
The ellipse (which is what an egg is shaped like) produces the
"egg head" appearance, giving one the appearance of having an
abnormally freakishly large head, or "Frankenstein" appearance.
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Re: Re: Face Shapes and Preferences
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 17, 2024, 9:16 pm
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"Ellipse = elongated "Aryan"
Oblong = elongated robust "Aryan""
No, not everything has to be placed into root race boxes. We can
just say they are mixed. As we went through again only recently,
Oblongs are the least neotenous:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-mate-choice-copying-2640/msg25666/#msg25666
therefore under no circumstances are they to be grouped with
Ovals which are the most neotenous.
I am now arguing that Ellipses should be grouped with Oblongs (I
have never seen a Elliptical child). Therefore neither should be
called Aryan.
"The ellipse (which is what an egg is shaped like)"
No, a (chicken) egg is oval. The term "oval" etymologically
means "egg-shaped":
HTML https://mathmonks.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Oval-vs-Ellipse.jpg
HTML https://thefrugalchicken.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Anatomy-of-an-Egg-min.jpg
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