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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 25, 2023, 8:29 pm
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"Cracker" is also inaccurate:
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Related:
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: August 25, 2023, 8:33 pm
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Cracker is not a reference to biscuits, but a reference to "Whip
cracker", or the "cracking" sound the whip would make when a
slavemaster would whip their slave.
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 25, 2023, 8:36 pm
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Many False Leftists that I have encountered in the past think it
is a reference to the biscuit and think it is an accurate
comparison.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(term)#Etymology
[quote]Another possibility, which may be a modern folk
etymology, supposes that the term derives from "soda cracker", a
type of light wheat biscuit which dates in the Southern US to at
least the Civil War.[23] The idea has possibly been influenced
by "whitebread", a similar term for white people. "Soda cracker"
and even "white soda cracker" have become extended versions of
"cracker" as an epithet.[24][/quote]
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: August 25, 2023, 8:38 pm
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Yeah, I think the terminology has been somewhat misappropriated.
In fact, i myself only imagine the biscuit when the term is
used, not the slaveowner. I would recommend trying to reclaim
the term rather than discard it altogether.
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 10, 2023, 1:17 pm
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[quote author=BeerBelly link=topic=359.msg21656#msg21656
date=1692733820]
"Of course, this is obviously a non-Aryan trait, since the
Neolithic revolution resulted in a steady supply of food and
this would have no longer been advantageous."
How sure are we that some neolithic people did not have a small
beer belly?
[quote]The quest for a kind of beer which could have appeared in
the world before the first evidences of Neolithic culture
(crops, domesticated animals, villages, pottery, ...) has much
stimulated the imagination.
Three conjectures sum up the various hypotheses according which
this event could have happened between 30,000 and 10,000 BC, the
latter date setting the oldest domestication of food plants and
animals in the Near East and Asia :
a) The accidental occurence of a fermented porridge during
prehistory would have led humans to reproduce the phenomenon for
their own benefit. Like higher primates, humans also developed
an appetite for ethanol. This stimulus led them to reproduce and
perfect the initial accidental fermentations. This is the
assumption of the reproducible technical accident with
prehistorical very rudimentary material means.
b) Spiritual life in the Upper Paleolithic was sufficiently
advanced for ceremonies to be the occasion for drinking
fermented drinks. The prehistorical cave paintings testify to
the richness of that collective mental life. The funeral
practices of Neanderthal for example, one of the human branches
coexisting in Europe with others like Homo Sapiens, are
accompanied by rituals. The collective psychic life in the
Paelolithic would have been a stronger dynamic than the
development of material life. Hypothesis of the human spiritual
quest as a driving force for human evolution.
c) Simply gathering or picking up grain would have effortlessly
provide enough starch to brew some primeval beers. These first
grain surpluses would have been collected in ecosystems rich in
wild grasses and a very low human population density. The
surpluses of raw material (grains, tubers) generates major
social changes, including new drinking behaviors. This third
assumption is based on economics...[/quote]
HTML https://beer-studies.com/en/world-history/Birth-of-brewing
[quote]With around seven calories per gram, alcohol contains
almost as many calories as pure fat. In addition, many alcoholic
drinks are also high in sugar meaning you could be consuming
lots of empty calories, which could lead to weight gain -
including a beer belly - and put your long-term health at
risk...[/quote]
HTML https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/appearance/how-can-i-beat-my-beer-belly
How Can Ectomorphs Lose Belly Fat? [Easier Than You Think]
[quote]Having belly fat is one of the most common struggles that
the majority of skinny people have. And just because you’re an
Ectomorph, that doesn’t mean that you can’t develop it. You can
always carry body fat even if you’re skinny. This usually occurs
when you’re too inactive. The basic advice that you’ll see all
over the internet is that you need to eat less. I know exactly
what you’re thinking. That doesn’t make any sense for
Ectomorphs, right? Not only will that make you feel lighter and
more tired but If you read the majority of articles about
gaining weight as an Ectomorph, most of them (Including mine)
recommend that you always have a calorie surplus. That means you
should always be eating more. So how can Ectomorphs lose belly
fat?[/quote]
HTML https://ectomorphing.com/how-can-ectomorphs-lose-belly-fat/
I imagine that in neolithic societies the winter months did not
involve much physical labor and a lot of celebrating the prior
years bountiful harvest? Neolithic belly fat was more than
likely not part of a survival mechanism as it would have been in
paleolithic tribes, but it could have still existed, no?
[/quote]
Pre-Neolithic people in warm climates were ectomorphs, so there
is no contradiction between ectomorphy and the non-Aryan trait I
mentioned. If I have said otherwise, then I misspoke.
As for neolithic societies, the evidence that belly fat would
have been selected against is deduced from the simple fact that
extra body weight would require extra energy to move, thus
making farming more energy intensive. However, given that
farming itself is a labor intensive task, it is possible that
those with this trait would have never gained fat in the first
place. So it is also possible that this trait was not selected
against. In the latter case, we could say that skinny fat/belly
fat is a trait of non-Aryan origin (similar to blonde hair and
mate choice copying) but not a non-Aryan trait in and of itself
(meaning Aryans could also carry it). What do you guys think?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 10, 2023, 6:04 pm
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Surely belly fat would also make heat dispersal more difficult?
I do not understand even the claim in the linked article that
ectomorphs can have belly fat, or more precisely, that someone
with belly fat can still be classified as an ectomorph. Aren't
ectomorphs supposed to have fast metabolism, which would thus
burn off excess fat automatically even without physical
activity?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 10, 2023, 7:00 pm
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"Surely belly fat would also make heat dispersal more difficult"
Again, this would not be a problem if one did not accumulate
belly fat in the first place, by burning off excess caloric
intake through strenuous physical labour.
However, you are correct that this would have caused a problem
among the pre-Neolithic populations who did not engage in as
much strenuous labor, but
who nevertheless lived in a warm climate. But the flip side is
that, as I previously mentioned, this would have also been
advantageous to them as it would have helped them during times
of food scarcity and famine, both of which are likely in absence
of a steady food supply that was made possible by the Neolithic
revolution.
"I do not understand even the claim in the linked article that
ectomorphs can have belly fat, or more precisely, that someone
with belly fat can still be classified as an ectomorph."
It is possible that the article is referring to ectomorphs whose
metabolism has slowed down due to aging. I have seen many
ectomorphs gain a potbelly as they age.
"Aren't ectomorphs supposed to have fast metabolism, which would
thus burn off excess fat automatically even without physical
activity?"
That is the Aryanist definition of ectomorphy. However, I noted
that it is possible to have other ectomorphic traits (such as
long limbs, narrow shoulders, both of which increase surface
area/volume ratio and thus heat dispersal) while having a rather
slow metabolism (that specifically increases propensity to
accumulate abdominal fat but not necessarily increase in overall
BMI). This is a broader definition of ectomorphy would include
the aforementioned individuals as well.
If not, then what is the explanation behind the skinny fat
physique we see in middle class Indians who have a low BMI but
excess abdominal fat, even though we have established that
ectomorphy is a warm climate adaptation?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 10, 2023, 7:58 pm
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"If not, then what is the explanation behind the skinny fat
physique we see in middle class Indians who have a low BMI but
excess abdominal fat, even though we have established that
ectomorphy is a warm climate adaptation?"
Sexual selection, perhaps?
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-metabolism/msg21582/#msg21582
You yourself mentioned being attracted to skinny fat women!!
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: rp Date: September 10, 2023, 8:26 pm
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"You yourself mentioned being attracted to skinny fat women!!"
If you are referring to:
[quote], I like the Aryan face + gracile body + endomorphic
somatotype as well[/quote]
I did not mention it explicitly, as gracile bodies and
endomorphic somatotypes do not necessarily produce a skinny fat
physique.
However, I concede that at the beginning of the sentence:
[quote]Note the thin forearm, but also note the hourglass figure
and body fat in her upper arms.[/quote]
I did implicitly allude to her skinny-fat physique, as the fat
distribution is mainly concentrated in her upper arms and
hips/buttocks, giving her an outwardly thin appearance in some
photos. But what could be the reason behind this sexual
selection? I can see why those women with Gentile blood memory
would sexually select for mesomorphic men despite mesomorphy
being evolutionarily disadvantageous in warm climates, as
mesomorphy would make one a better hunter. But why would those
men with non-Aryan blood memory sexually select for endomorphic
skinny-fat women? In my case, it was a certain matriarchal
impulse that made me attracted to them, the feeling that a woman
like Kaur would be able to provide me with "love" and "warmth"
of a "caring mother/older sister". In fact, I suspect that this
impulse is what makes young pre-teen boys attracted to somewhat
sexually mature teenage/adult women (see the Japanese "straight
shota" Hentai genre for this example).
However, given that this trait would not be disadvantageous so
long as there is enough strenuous physical labor to burn the
excess caloric intake (which I theorized in the case of farming
there was as the fat accumulation is primarily
minimal/concentrated toward certain parts of the body in
contrast to cold climates), do you agree that it was not
naturally selected against? Perhaps it was sexually selected
against by the farmers (again, why?)?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 10, 2023, 8:51 pm
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"why would those men with non-Aryan blood memory sexually select
for endomorphic skinny-fat women?"
I'm not certain it is men with non-Aryan blood memory. It could
be men with Aryan blood memory prioritizing face over body.
Surely (I hope) you wouldn't be attracted to a skinny fat woman
without an Aryan face? :o
"In my case, it was a certain matriarchal impulse that made me
attracted to them, the feeling that a woman like Kaur would be
able to provide me with "love" and "warmth" of a "caring
mother/older sister"."
But are you saying that a truly ectomorphic woman (even if
facially at least as beautiful as Kaur) is less able to give you
this feeling?
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