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Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: Junito18 Date: January 1, 2021, 2:21 pm
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Just found this blog spreading misinformation about race,
attributing Aryan traits to hunter-gatherers and Gentile traits
to agriculturalists e.g. saying hunter-gatherers were
ectomorphs, but also psychological traits.
HTML http://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2020/05/three-tribes-three-body-types.html
HTML http://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2021/01/how-neurodiverse-people-are-like-hunter.html
He has been posting on MBTI subreddits spreading his propaganda
and misinformation.
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/intj/comments/ko9lck/intj_and_the_huntergatherer_hypothesis/
Does anyone care to confront him?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 2, 2021, 12:30 am
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HTML http://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2020/05/three-tribes-three-body-types.html
[quote]Ectomorphs are typically late bloomers (late puberty) and
have lightweight body types, which would have been ideal for
hunting in our past.[/quote]
The primary prehistoric hunting weapon is the bow. The heavier
the bow you can draw, the greater the distance from which you
can take down prey, and the larger the prey you can take down.
This favours mesomorphs. Also, heavyweight body types generally
have better accuracy with a bow due to greater inertia.
(Turanian mounted archery is a separate discussion.)
(On a related note, I pointed out on the old blog that Olympic
archery athletes almost always had wide faces:
HTML http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/those-who-think-babylon-is-evil-must-think-zion-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-33396<br
/>)
There is also archaeological consensus that musculature (and
hence mesomorphy) decreases from switching to farming:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-immune-system/
Continuing:
[quote]Early farmers would have required very robust and strong
body types fit for the hard work they had to do
(endomorph)[/quote]
Actually:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/
[quote]the heavier your bones, the more body mass you have to
shift around all day (in addition to the stuff you are carrying
around) and hence the more energy is invested with no additional
return in the amount of food grown (which is limited by
farmland/sunlight/water/etc.)[/quote]
In the case of endomorphs, you would have to shift around extra
fat mass as well, which wastes even more energy. And the sun
definitely does not shine more on fields owned by fat farmers.
HTML http://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2021/01/how-neurodiverse-people-are-like-hunter.html
Their stuff about ADHD is correct. We have the same stuff here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/
Finally:
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/intj/comments/ko9lck/intj_and_the_huntergatherer_hypothesis/
[quote]the following hunter-gatherer traits?
...
No-ingroupism[/quote]
So how could they hunt?
[quote]Support the underdog[/quote]
So how could they hunt? (Prey = underdog by definition!)
[quote]High sense of justice[/quote]
So do they shoot arrows into themselves after hunting?
[quote]Less gender dimorphism[/quote]
A hypothetical hunter-gatherer society which adamantly demands
equal division of hunting and gathering labour between men and
women could in theory reduce their sexual dimorphism, but such a
society would be outcompeted by a neighbouring hunter-gatherer
society which divides hunting and gathering labour simply to
optimize efficiency (which involves men doing more hunting).
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 2, 2021, 12:48 am
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More elite archer pictures (top search engine results, not
pre-selected):
[img width=1280
height=853]
HTML https://www.usarchery.org/images/tinymce/160619154511-DSC03590.jpg[/img]
[img width=1280
height=853]
HTML https://worldarchery.org/sites/default/files/styles/manual_crop_3_2/public/news/images/body/roma17_a17_0157-x3_0.jpg?itok=J6gImW1A[/img]
[img]
HTML https://archery360.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/5-Mixed-Recurve-World-Archery.jpg?189db0&189db0[/img]
[img width=1280
height=852]
HTML https://worldarchery.org/sites/default/files/styles/manual_crop_3_2/public/news/images/body/roma17_a17_7359-x3.jpg?itok=PYllDQVA[/img]
[img]
HTML https://www.paralympic.org/sites/default/files/styles/large_original/public/images/180821141521934_David-Drahoninsky-Sarka-Musilova.jpg?itok=0LNw8kb4[/img]
[img width=1280
height=853]
HTML https://worldarchery.org/sites/default/files/styles/manual_crop_3_2/public/news/images/body/x19_7524-x4.jpg?itok=Eg6n8V--[/img]
HTML https://sportsmatik.com/uploads/world-events/players/ki-bo-bae_1564748722.jpg
HTML https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6h_MpIXkH7A/maxresdefault.jpg
[img width=1280
height=853]
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HTML https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-69729456,imgsize-156106,width-400,resizemode-4/69729456.jpg
[img]
HTML https://img.olympicchannel.com/images/image/private/t_16-9_360-203_2x/f_auto/v1593343725/primary/cnz0p3jtxgiq8qvomj1x[/img]
HTML https://sportsbeatsindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/An-San-Beats-Kumari-In-Women%E2%80%99s-Final-At-Tokyo-2020-Olympic-Test-Event.jpg
[img]
HTML https://uploads-sportbusiness.imgix.net/uploads/2021/03/GettyImages-1228060628.jpg?auto=compress,format&crop=faces,entropy,edges&fit=crop&w=1024&h=683[/img]
HTML https://sport.port.ac.uk/-/media/microsite-sports/hero-images-search-results-and-page-buttons/sports/archer-drawing-bow-1200x400.jpg
[img]
HTML https://worldarchery.spo
rt/sites/default/files/styles/header_desktop/public/news/images/
main/d19_2068-x4.jpg?h=17754d9c&itok=7e4O0_9g[/img]
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: Junito18 Date: January 2, 2021, 9:35 am
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[quote]Their stuff about ADHD is correct. We have the same stuff
here[/quote]
The stuff about ADHD is the only thing that got me thinking
actually. I used to think ADHD was a hunter-gatherer trait based
on my own experiences. When I was a kid, the other kids didn't
seem to be able to focus on tasks as well as me and I was
definitely less hyperactive than them. I used to spend time
working on elaborate projects - writing stories, building things
out of lego, playing on SimCity etc. The parallel between
investing energy into time-consuming constructive projects and
investing energy into farming, in which you are producing crops,
is clear. Such activities are associated more with autism, so I
thought that autism involved hyperfocus and was perhaps a trait
originating from farmers and ADHD involved an inability to focus
and originated from hunter-gatherers.
However, I've recently learned that there is such a thing as ADD
- ADHD without hyperactivity. I've also learned that both people
with ADHD and people with ADD are capable of hyperfocus but only
for things that interest them, and find it difficult to
concentrate on things that do not interest them. This describes
me well. I was horrified as a child by the thought of having a
9-5 job and doing the same thing every day. So it sounds like
ADD/ADHD and autism are not opposites and can exist in the same
person.
So, the thing I don't understand is: 1) if the kids around me
had ADHD, why did they seem to unable to focus on anything at
all? If I shared ADD with them, why was I still different? 2a)
Constructive projects do seem to be a farmer-originating
interest, but if it is associated with ADD/ADHD, which is a
hunter-gatherer trait, how can the two be reconciled? 2b) Both
ADD and ADHD and constructive projects seem to be associated
with the N personality type of MBTI, which seems to be more
farmer-associated. So is being a 'night owl', which the author
claims quite convincingly is a hunter-gatherer trait even though
most people are not night owls. How can these be reconciled?
I was also confused about how the majority of people can not
have ADHD/ADD and have no problem working a 9-5 if they are
primarily descended from hunter-gatherers, but I guess you've
answered that with your fisher hypothesis.
That post you linked to
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/<br
/>is hard to follow by the way. When you wrote 'I have ADHD. The
y
made me take amphetamines...' and 'Interesting post. I'd like to
know what relationship, if any, ADHD has to high and low blood
pressure...I'm only 5'10''' I thought you were talking about
your self, but then you quote the second bit, but then you quote
the bit about being 5'10''. Who are you quoting?
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: Junito18 Date: January 2, 2021, 10:22 am
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Another thing - I was arguing with this guy and he brought up
the Khoi-San as examples of ectomorphic hunters. I said they
were ectomorphic because they lived in a very hot climate, and
that people living in hot climates are more ectomorphic than
people in cold climates and farmers are more ectomorphic than
hunters. What do you think of non-farmer ectomorphs such as the
Khoi-San and the Maasai? Are they just ectomorphs due to climate
rather than subsistence style? He also said that ectomorphic
body types are absent in the areas of Africa into which the
Bantu expanded, and I said the people living in those areas
aren't pure farmers because the Bantu bred with the people
already living there, and showed him this map.
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/World_in_1000_BCE.png<br
/>Is this the correct response? What about the areas the Bantu
originally came from - in West Africa? I think people in those
areas do tend to be quite Mesomorphic.
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 3, 2021, 4:29 am
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"1) if the kids around me had ADHD, why did they seem to unable
to focus on anything at all? If I shared ADD with them, why was
I still different?"
You don't know for sure they can't focus on anything. Maybe the
things they could focus on were things you weren't there to
observe?
"2a) Constructive projects do seem to be a farmer-originating
interest, but if it is associated with ADD/ADHD, which is a
hunter-gatherer trait, how can the two be reconciled?"
Trapping is one form of hunting, and involves elaborate
construction:
HTML https://www.gutenberg.org/files/17093/17093-h/17093-h.htm
"2b) Both ADD and ADHD and constructive projects seem to be
associated with the N personality type of MBTI, which seems to
be more farmer-associated. So is being a 'night owl', which the
author claims quite convincingly is a hunter-gatherer trait even
though most people are not night owls. How can these be
reconciled?"
Firstly, I can't stand MBTI, a Western model, and do not
recommend anti-Westerners (as we here are all supposed to be)
take it too seriously.
Secondly, humans hunting at night with prehistoric technology is
likely to be inefficient. Humans do not have good night vision
compared to most non-human prey, while using illumination will
alert the prey. So I have no idea what that idiot is talking
about. Herders, on the other hand, are known for herding at
night to guard against non-human predators who do hunt at night.
So it seems more likely to be a Turanian trait.
"When you wrote 'I have ADHD. They made me take amphetamines...'
and 'Interesting post. I'd like to know what relationship, if
any, ADHD has to high and low blood pressure...I'm only 5'10'''
I thought you were talking about your self, but then you quote
the second bit, but then you quote the bit about being 5'10''.
Who are you quoting?"
PolincSocjus from the old board was made to take amphetamines.
Mza9 from the old board is 5'10".
"I said they were ectomorphic because they lived in a very hot
climate"
You are correct!
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/
"What do you think of non-farmer ectomorphs such as the Khoi-San
and the Maasai?"
They should be prohibited from reproducing eventually, but they
are welcome to help us destroy Western civilization first.
"Are they just ectomorphs due to climate rather than subsistence
style?"
Yes. As a matter of fact, many of their women are far from
ectomorphic:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steatopygia
"He also said that ectomorphic body types are absent in the
areas of Africa into which the Bantu expanded, and I said the
people living in those areas aren't pure farmers because the
Bantu bred with the people already living there, and showed him
this map.
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/World_in_1000_BCE.png<br
/>Is this the correct response?"
Your response is correct, but his claim itself is bullshit:
[img width=798
height=1280]
HTML https://c8.alamy.com/comp/JT5J77/lavinia-haitope-of-namibia-running-in-the-iaaf-world-championships-JT5J77.jpg[/img]
[img width=817
height=1280]
HTML https://www.namibtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/History-at-R%C3%B6ssing-Marathon-1.jpg[/img]
I don't understand how it is possible for anyone to still
believe that certain body types are absent from certain
ethnicities. All you need to do is look at athletes from all
over the world competing in the same sport, and it is obvious
that they have the same body type no matter where they are from,
namely the type optimized for that sport!
HTML https://www.graphic.com.gh/graphicsports/images/2018/sept/IMG-20180924-WA0036.jpg
The two guys to either side are obviously more racially similar
to each other than to the runner.
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: Junito18 Date: January 3, 2021, 9:53 am
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[quote]Secondly, humans hunting at night with prehistoric
technology is likely to be inefficient.[/quote]
His claim is not that they hunted at night, but that they were
awake at night to be alert to potential dangers (predators,
other bands of hunters). This doesn't mean they were awake all
night, otherwise they would never sleep at all - only that they
didn't sleep through the night and were light sleepers.
HTML http://the-big-ger-picture.blogspot.com/2020/03/night-owls-early-risers-personality-and.html
[quote]Firstly, I can't stand MBTI, a Western model, and do not
recommend anti-Westerners (as we here are all supposed to be)
take it too seriously.[/quote]
What's actually wrong with it though? The distinction between
intuitives and sensors is similar to the Aryan/ non-Aryan
distinction promoted on this site, with sensors 'focusing on the
reality of how things are' and intuitives 'imagining the
possibilities of how things could be'.
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/MyersBriggsTypes.png
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 3, 2021, 11:06 pm
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"What's actually wrong with it though?"
If you look at 3, for example, it associates logical reasoning
with justice and personal values with forgiveness. This is
nonsense. It is perfectly possible for justice to feel personal.
The real problem is that the Western worldview assumes that
reason and emotion are necessarily in conflict (with the latter
trying to mislead the former), and hence recommends emotion be
subjugated by reason. Our worldview is that reason and emotion
are meant to lead each other to the same conclusion.
"The distinction between intuitives and sensors is similar to
the Aryan/ non-Aryan distinction promoted on this site, with
sensors 'focusing on the reality of how things are' and
intuitives 'imagining the possibilities of how things could
be'."
NO. We imagine how things should be, not how they could be.
Imagining how things could be leads to **** like this:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/
Our imagination is really memory of how things originally were.
It is progressives who imagine things in a genuinely open-ended
futurist sense (which is completely alien to us):
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/leftists-against-progressivism/
The uniquely Western lack of awareness of the distinction
between progressive imagination and regressive imagination is
what leads to Western bookstores having an absurd category
called 'Sci-Fi & Fantasy' which has annoyed me ever since I was
a child, since it was always obvious to me that sci-fi (which I
hate) is the exact opposite of fantasy (which I love).
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 14, 2021, 3:57 am
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Here is one I missed previously:
HTML https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-04-short-wide-sporting-potential.html
[quote]a study on Wednesday that found Japanese baseball players
whose faces were relatively broad rather than long were most
likely to hit a home run.
...
University of London psychologists measured the facial
width-to-height ratio, or fWHR, of 104 batters in Japan's
professional Central League Pennant who played in the 2011 and
2012 seasons.
In both seasons, the players who scored the most home runs had
the highest fWHR, said the study in the Royal Society journal
Biology Letters.[/quote]
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Re: Misinformation about Racial Origins
By: guest5 Date: May 16, 2021, 12:57 am
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Archers are some ugly muddatuckas yo! You've definitely proven
that as well! Wow... ;D
And, that's why I only hit one home run my entire time playing
baseball! lol
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