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       #Post#: 33058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 3:12 am
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       "Did they tell you this?"
       Ok, maybe not explicit reproductive Eurocentrists, but I did see
       them lusting after "White" men.
       "Social exclusion was not considered bullying during the
       Counterculture era. Everyone can choose whom to socialize with
       and whom not to socialize with. Just because you are unpopular
       does not mean you are being bullied, so long as even those who
       socially exclude you respect your boundaries"
       Ok, fine, perhaps you are right. But you also have to consider
       the fact that the girl is in the house and occupying space, in
       effect draining up resources (time) from the other siblings, do
       I viewed it as betraying my duty and turning my back on them, as
       she would always talk down to them in condescending manner since
       they were younger when they join the group. But I suppose this
       is a different phenomenon than social exclusion... And btw this
       did lead into real bullying as I did see her physically
       intimidate is using her sexual dimorphism when she got older,
       kind of like saying with her body language (there's something
       wrong with you, not me, when the truth is the inverse). She also
       took my brother pictures without his consent.
       Conversely, (this when she was younger) when it was time  to
       exclude her from our group, after some cousins visited and she
       had to leave, she started crying. LOL
       #Post#: 33059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 3:27 am
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       "You should promote anti-"whiteness" to both, so that at least
       they exert their tendencies in a better direction."
       I originally thought of turning them against their father, but
       this won't work, since ultimately the father is providing for
       them. Of course, this, coupled with their already inferior
       blood, will ultimately make them follow in their father's
       footsteps. Sure, this might be generic determinism, but it is
       what it is. The best as you said we can hope for is for them to
       take out "Whites".
       #Post#: 33060--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 4:14 am
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       "But indeed it would be easier for them to evolve non-sadism
       than Gentile men, since this would not have made it harder for
       them to survive. On the other hand, if they had really evolved
       enough empathy to not eat meat, they should also have had enough
       empathy to not voluntarily reproduce with meat-eating men. So
       was their reproduction involuntary? In many cases this might
       have been the case."
       But wait a minute, I recall you mentioning that vegan Gentile
       women are sexually attracted to Gentile men who hunt? Or perhaps
       they are attracted to them, but not enough to reproduce? I'm
       confused now...
       I guess perhaps there is a spectrum...
       #Post#: 33061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 17, 2026, 5:54 am
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       "I recall you mentioning that vegan Gentile women are sexually
       attracted to Gentile men who hunt?"
       But they rarely enjoy watching those men hunt. It's the same
       inconsistency that I am trying to point out.
       This also applies in other fields. For example, many women
       strongly prefer men who can drive a car compared to men who
       cannot, but at the same time can't stand men talking about cars.
       If you just looked at the second point, you would logically
       think that such a woman would prefer a non-driving man (who
       would thus be less likely to talk about cars), but no.....
       #Post#: 33062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 7:29 am
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       "But they rarely enjoy watching those men hunt. It's the same
       inconsistency that I am trying to point out."
       I guess the ones that did, who were unable to join the hunt,
       would be the ones that would eat meat and wouldn't give it up.
       On the other hand, those that did not enjoy hunting would be the
       ones who could give up meat, but still would occasionally like
       the taste, since the cohabitating partners were all hunting men,
       and they would have to have reproduced them for the lineage to
       not go extinct. I place the cousin who reproduced with a
       fisherman in this camp. His phenotype itself should have been a
       red flag; that she was attracted enough to marry him itself says
       something about her inferior blood.
       Then there are those vegetarians since birth who reproduce with
       non fisherman/non hunting meat eaters (for example, the daughter
       of the other semi vegetarian couple). This group doesn't like
       the taste of meat at all (perhaps it is due to the fact that in
       this case the father was "noble" enough to not feed it to the
       child, and he himself had quit at this point). But it is still
       in their blood to be sexually attracted to meat eating men, or
       at least not be repulsed enough by them to not reproduce with
       them (low standards). I would place her in the general camp of
       mixed blood offspring (Aryan/non Aryan). This is the vast
       majority of the Indian population.
       I hope my analysis is correct.
       Also, out of curiosity, where would you place the Aunts that
       reproduced with the meat eaters out of misinformation? Paleo or
       Aryan leaning vegetarianism? When conversing with them, I do get
       a different feeling than conversing with their daughters (who
       are vegetarian also). Their temperament is different I would
       say..
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       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 17, 2026, 5:09 pm
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       "This is the vast majority of the Indian population."
       This would imply that vegetarianism among Indians is more common
       for females than for males. (I would also suspect this to be the
       case on account of the Turanian Vedic invasion alone.) And
       indeed:
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       > about 30% of women and about 20% of men may fall under the
       lacto-vegetarian category
       --- End Quote ---
       "I hope my analysis is correct."
       It seems to work out.
       "His phenotype itself should have been a red flag"
       How about the physiognomy of your cousins themselves? Does it
       line up with their behaviour?
       "where would you place the Aunts that reproduced with the meat
       eaters out of misinformation? Paleo or Aryan leaning
       vegetarianism?"
       It's hard to say. My understanding based on what you have told
       me above (correct me if I am mistaken) is that they have never
       eaten meat in their lives, but because of this we do not
       actually know if they would like the taste if they did try it.
       What do their husbands look like, and how do they compare to
       what your aunts prefer men to look like (e.g. celebrities they
       are fans of)?
       "When conversing with them, I do get a different feeling than
       conversing with their daughters (who are vegetarian also). Their
       temperament is different I would say."
       But any heritable difference could be caused by the daughters'
       patrilineal blood, therefore does not say anything about the
       blood of your aunts which is what you are asking me about.
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       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 6:42 pm
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       "This would imply that vegetarianism among Indians is more
       common for females than for males. (I would also suspect this to
       be the case on account of the Turanian Vedic invasion alone.)
       And indeed:"
       So you are implying an Aryan matrilineal + Turanian patrilineal
       combo I guess? This would make sense, heritably vegetarian but
       sexually having low standards.
       "It's hard to say. My understanding based on what you have told
       me above (correct me if I am mistaken) is that they have never
       eaten meat in their lives, but because of this we do not
       actually know if they would like the taste if they did try it.
       What do their husbands look like, and how do they compare to
       what your aunts prefer men to look like (e.g. celebrities they
       are fans of)?"
       You are correct. I mentioned earlier how the Aunts criticize
       their husbands behavior, but my mother and father both remarked
       how they are both still a little materialistic minded (which
       they share with their daughters), or bossy (the mother of the
       hunter was a school headmistress- her daughter takes after this
       behavior a little), and just kind of "go with the flow" of what
       their husbands do (aside from trying to get them to quit meat),
       and in fact enjoyed many of the material benefits that heir
       husbands offered. Perhaps it is because there is not really any
       choice since they have reproduced, but again this goes back to
       the lack of standards. My mother kind of hinted at this by
       saying how they are not really pious in the sense that my mother
       and father are. Sure, you don't really have control of many
       things, but in this case the best course of option is to
       surrender to God ferociously. That they did not do this despite
       coming from religious background and themselves being religious
       illustrated the lack of standards. i also mentioned earlier how
       they fought with my mother at the wedding about not wearing
       silk. Also to note is that they both still drink milk coffee.
       This might also supplement the Turanian patrilineal/Aryan
       matrilineal hybrid hypothesis. But I should note they may have
       inherited this combo from their mother (my grandmother). My
       grandfather on my father's side was a soft spoken down to earth
       gentleman who worked as a veterinarian treating sick animals. On
       the other hand my grandmother always looks unhappy in the photos
       where they are pictured together. But I will note she is
       extremely religious.
       "But any heritable difference could be caused by the daughters'
       patrilineal blood, therefore does not say anything about the
       blood of your aunts which is what you are asking me about."
       I was thinking daughter temperament = non Aryan blood
       (obviously) so a different temperament = Aryan blood. For
       example, in the case of the hunter's mother, the daughter is a
       staunch atheist, whereas the mother is religious. Sure even
       here, the religious belief is somewhat superstitious, which the
       daughter criticizes her for, but it is still something. It is
       hard for me to explain, but you would have to interact with them
       to see what I am talking about. Going to the daughters house
       feels extremely Westernized/soulless (no religious iconography
       at all, it's like you have fully entered the realm of Judeo
       Americanism). Whereas at least the mother does some prayers.
       In the case of the other aunt, the temperament is much more
       similar with her daughter. Also, I should note, even though they
       are both a little materialistic, they are not as bossy. The only
       difference is that the daughter seems less religious/more ok
       with cohabitating with meat eating men than her mother (due to
       patrilineal blood). This relates to a broader point about how
       perhaps in this case, the father was a meat eater but not as
       avid as the other husband (who ate till his death and fed it to
       the kids). I would place this husband in the category of
       Turanian patrilineal + Aryan matrilineal male offspring (unlike
       the other husband who had clear Gentile blood as evidenced by
       his sons hunting). This group might have had enough Aryan blood
       to convert to vegetarianism out of religious reasons but never
       eliminated the taste for meat. This is exemplified by the
       husband's father, who was a notorious male chauvinist who would
       criticize my aunt for every little thing but would make excuses
       for his son. I mentioned one time how my father's brother
       complained to the father in law about the son's meat eating, but
       the father in law became upset at the brother for complaining
       rather than his own son for eating meat! Add insult to injury
       was that the father in law claimed to be a supposedly devout
       religious person!
       Also to note is that both aunts are overweight and suffer from
       diabetes....
       #Post#: 33067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 6:51 pm
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       "How about the physiognomy of your cousins themselves? Does it
       line up with their behaviour?'"
       I am told that both the cousin who married the fisherman and the
       cousin who hunts share a remarkable semblance to their father.
       Son:
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       Can't find picture of daughter.
       #Post#: 33068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 17, 2026, 8:15 pm
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       "how they fought with my mother at the wedding about not wearing
       silk."
       This is even harder to understand. Obviously they do not
       ethically care about the silkworms, but if they like silk as a
       symbol of affluence, and your mother does not wear silk whereas
       they do, doesn't this make themselves look better by their own
       standards? Or do you mean at your parents' wedding everyone was
       prohibited from wearing silk? If the latter, then their
       complaint (that the wedding as a whole lacked affluence) would
       actually make more sense.
       "in the case of the hunter's mother, the daughter is a staunch
       atheist, whereas the mother is religious."
       I do not think this is a reliable indicator. There are also
       atheist ethical vegans.
       "Westernized/soulless (no religious iconography at all"
       You are using the term "Westernized" incorrectly. Recall:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/
       "I would place this husband in the category of Turanian
       patrilineal + Aryan matrilineal male offspring (unlike the other
       husband who had clear Gentile blood as evidenced by his sons
       hunting)."
       Turanians also hunted recreationally.
       "This is exemplified by the husband's father, who was a
       notorious male chauvinist who would criticize my aunt for every
       little thing but would make excuses for his son."
       Is this male chauvanism or in-law blaming (close-quarter
       nepotism)? If he also has a daughter (does he?), but sides with
       his daughter's husband over his daughter, only then can we
       safely conclude it is the former.
       "I mentioned one time how my father's brother complained to the
       father in law about the son's meat eating, but the father in law
       became upset at the brother for complaining rather than his own
       son for eating meat!"
       This also suggests in-law blaming (only males involved here, but
       the in-law gets the blame).
       "Also to note is that both aunts are overweight and suffer from
       diabetes...."
       Either obesity or diabetes in conjunction with vegetarian diet
       could indicate non-Aryan blood. Both at the same time is almost
       a smoking gun! (To be absolutely sure we would have to put them
       on meat diets and see if their health improves, not that I am
       advising this to be done!)
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       Re: Mental Health
   DIR By: rp
       Date: August 17, 2026, 9:35 pm
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       "This is even harder to understand. Obviously they do not
       ethically care about the silkworms, but if they like silk as a
       symbol of affluence, and your mother does not wear silk whereas
       they do, doesn't this make themselves look better by their own
       standards?"
       I guess I should clarify. It wasn't about wearing silk. In Hindu
       wedding tradition, the bride has to give some sarees as gifts to
       the groom's family. These sarees were cotton at my father's
       request (initially he wanted to accept no gifts at all on
       principle, but agreed since this was a religious custom). The
       sister in laws complained about these, that they were cotton and
       not silk.
       "Either obesity or diabetes in conjunction with vegetarian diet
       could indicate non-Aryan blood."
       I agree it indicates non aryan blood, but the question here more
       is if the vegetarianism itself is a product of non Aryan blood,
       specifically if they like the taste of meat. Recall we talked
       about Aryan phenotypes but non Aryan body type. Similarly, they
       can have somewhat Aryan temperament, but non Aryan bodies (of
       course whether the bodies influence temperament is also a valid
       question, as evidenced by their bossiness/materialism, and also
       a separate incident where my aunt was complaining about it being
       too hot). At the end of the day, I agree though non Aryan blood
       is non Aryan blood. And it definitely influenced their
       reproductive standards.
       "I do not think this is a reliable indicator. There are also
       atheist ethical vegans."
       Yes, they are ethical vegetarians, no argument there. My
       question more was if their ethical vegetarianism (paleolithic
       leaning, see next paragraph) differs from the mother's ethical
       vegetarianism (I suspected Aryan based).
       "You are using the term "Westernized" incorrectly. Recall:"
       Ok, I agree. But these aren't just atheists; they are **** anti
       religionists. They have fully assimilated into the "American"
       culture of sportsball, consumerism, etc. Without religion, it
       seems as though they have blended in to the progressivist
       secularism of the day and age. They regularly celebrate
       thanksgiving with Tofu turkey and such (I mentioned the
       daughter/grandchildren like the taste of meat). Typical
       "American" "suburban soccer mom" type family where all the
       energy is invested into pushing the kids into sports and such.
       The granddaughter did learn Indian classical music but it was
       decoupled from its religious roots (which is virtually
       impossible) so she didn't really get into it that much.  My aunt
       hence likes being with us more than them (since we also take her
       to temples and stuff which her daughter's family never goes to).
       
       "Turanians also hunted recreationally"
       Fine. But can we say that the father of the sun who hunted has
       more non Aryan blood? I guess since the other husband didn't
       have a son we won't know. But I will say the daughters of the
       two aunts have different temperaments.
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