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Debunking Rightoid claims about crime and ethnicity
DIR By: antizion
Date: November 14, 2025, 4:55 pm
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Rightoids love to claim that "non-white"-perceived people have a
higher crime rate. This is their core justification for their
prejudice, so it is important to counteract this claim.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giGsSWY_Bgw
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Re: Debunking Rightoid claims about crime & ethnicity
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 14, 2025, 6:17 pm
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See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/police-rightist-bias/
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Re: Debunking Rightoid claims about crime & ethnicity
DIR By: antizion
Date: December 3, 2025, 9:35 am
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@90sRetroFan
Can you move my thread back. Since rightoids often talk about
crime, we need a dedicated threat to debunk them. It's their
main talking point, so it's quite important.
And as you pointed out, police have a rightist bias. This is
"justified" with the crime stats arguments. Even more reasons
for a dedicated debunk thread.
Also this current thread is about the illegitimacy of
post-Reinaissance ethnic categories, while important, it's a
entire different topic.
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Re: Debunking Rightoid claims about crime & ethnicity
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 3, 2025, 4:37 pm
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I've moved it back, but as this is the True Left vs Right forum,
if your sources (such as this first video) include False Left
arguments against rightist claims, you should point out which
they are so as to not make it appear as though we endorse such
arguments.
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Re: Debunking Rightoid claims about crime and ethnicity
DIR By: antizion
Date: January 25, 2026, 11:33 am
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What would be True-Left arguments to counter these claims?
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Re: Debunking Rightoid claims about crime and ethnicity
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: January 25, 2026, 6:23 pm
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> crime statistics in the US don't really
> 1:06
> reflect who commits crimes but rather
> 1:08
> who gets policed arrested and ultimately
> 1:10
> targeted
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> arrest
> 1:29
> data reflects the decisions made by law
> 1:31
> enforcement which are influenced by
> 1:32
> racial biases of course rather than
> 1:34
> serving as an accurate measure of who is
> 1:36
> actually committing crimes but with very
> 1:39
> careful cherry-picking racists who seek
> 1:40
> to uphold a certain level of Oppression
> 1:42
> use this data out of context to make it
> 1:44
> appear that black communities are
> 1:45
> uniquely prone to violence when in
> 1:47
> reality the number reflects the
> 1:49
> priorities and biases of a criminal
> 1:51
> justice system that has always
> 1:52
> disproportionately targeted black people
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> overp policing in Black
> 4:50
> communities drastically inflates crime
> 4:52
> statistics that are then by spectacular
> 4:55
> feat of circular reasoning used to
> 4:57
> quotquot prove that African-Americans
> 4:58
> are more prone to criminality black
> 5:01
> neighborhoods are subject to far more
> 5:03
> intense surveillance than white
> 5:04
> neighborhoods
--- End Quote ---
This is accurate.
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> the relationship between
> 12:44
> poverty and crime should not go unsaid
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This part True Leftists should not accept. It actually
contradicts the point above (which was arguing that "blacks" are
not more criminal) by now accepting that "blacks" (who are
indeed on average poorer than "whites") are more criminal!
The notion that poverty is the main cause of crime is a False
Leftist argument popular back when (before the age of smartphone
video recording) most False Leftists believed policing was fair.
Now that we have overwhelming evidence that policing is unfair,
it is stupid to continue to use this argument.
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> the effects of white
> 19:25
> collar crime are significant but they
> 19:27
> don't apply that white call Crime
> 19:29
> siphons off between 300 and $600 billion
> 19:32
> annually through corporate fraud
> 19:34
> embezzlement and Healthcare scams these
> 19:36
> crimes destroy lives bankrupt families
> 19:38
> and destabilize entire communities yet
> 19:40
> the perpetrators white wealthy and
> 19:42
> Powerful usually are rarely held
> 19:44
> accountable and therefore operate in
> 19:46
> plain sight the best and most recent
> 19:48
> example is the destructive power of the
> 19:50
> 2008 financial crash and the media's
> 19:52
> fixation on Black Street crime instead
> 19:54
> which helped distract everyone from the
> 19:55
> fact that the very powerful people
> 19:57
> responsible for the crash faced
> 19:58
> absolutely no consequences in fact in
> 20:01
> some ways they were rewarded for
> Conclusion
> 20:05
> it
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This is accurate. It also contradicts again the notion that
poverty is the main cause of crime!
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