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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 27, 2021, 11:14 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/calls-reparations-old-emancipation-global-152718865.html
[quote]Dozens of nations were involved in the slave trade. How
should they compensate descendants?[/quote]
By prohibiting those of colonialist bloodlines from reproducing,
and letting in those whom they colonized to become their
demographic replacements.
[quote]The call for reparations is being sounded beyond the
U.S., with activists and political leaders demanding
accountability for slavery and colonization of their countries.
In Jamaica, which became a British colony in the 1650s, the
government has begun a push for reparations, seeking redress for
nearly two centuries of slavery on the Caribbean island.
Officials announced the effort in July, with one legislator
suggesting that the government seek roughly 7.6 billion British
pounds, or roughly $10.4 billion in compensation from Britain.
An official amount has yet to be publicly confirmed.
“Our African ancestors were forcibly removed from their home and
suffered unparalleled atrocities in Africa to carry out forced
labor to the benefit of the British Empire,” Olivia Grange,
Jamaica’s minister of culture, gender, entertainment and sport,
told Reuters over the summer. “Redress is well overdue.”[/quote]
Indeed. But should it be money, or should it be justice?
[quote]For those who support the growing movement, the question
is how global powers should compensate the descendants of the
enslaved people whose labor and commodification helped fuel the
economic rise of several Western countries.[/quote]
Those who did the labour should own what the labour produced.
Not the estimated equivalent present-day currency value of what
the labour produced (which is worthless in reality), but the
actual infrastructure and other hard assets of those Western
countries.
[quote]“The royal family benefited from slavery financially and
many of our African brothers and sisters died in battle for
change,” David Denny, an activist and general secretary of the
Caribbean Movement for Peace and Integration, told CNN in
November.[/quote]
So the Windsors should be prohibited from reproducing.
[quote]“The essence of the reparations movement is that if you
cause harm to a group of people, you have a duty to repair that
harm,” said Verene Shepherd, a historian and the director of the
Centre for Reparation Research at the University of the West
Indies. “Those who benefited from the labor of the ancestors of
African people are still benefiting from the wealth. There is an
intergenerational generation of wealth on one side, and an
intergenerational transmission of poverty on the other.”[/quote]
Yes. And financial reparations will not change this more than
momentarily. Only by prohibiting reproduction of colonialist
bloodlines will the intergenerational generation of wealth
surely end, since only then will there be no subsequent
generations of those bloodlines.
[quote]Critics of reparations programs often argue that slavery
and colonization are past offenses and don’t justify
compensation.[/quote]
If an individual of a colonialist bloodline did not personally
participate in colonization, that individual should indeed not
be punished for colonialism. However, they should not be allowed
to reproduce in order that their bloodline, which did
participate in colonization, be eliminated. This solution alone
is fair to both the individual who did not participate in
colonization and the bloodline (carried by the individual) which
did.
[quote] In 2015, then-British Prime Minister David Cameron had
said that the country would not pay reparations, instead calling
for Jamaica and the U.K. to “continue to build for the
future.”[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron
[quote]He has also referenced the German Jewish ancestry of one
of his great-grandfathers, Arthur Levita, a descendant of the
Yiddish author Elia Levita.[21][22][/quote]
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Back to main article:
[quote]There has also been legal debate over the extent that
countries involved in historical abuses can be held responsible
for reparations in the present, with some scholars noting that
while slavery is morally abhorrent, it was not illegal
internationally when the transatlantic slave trade began.
Reparations activists, however, argue that the focus on
slavery’s once widespread “legality” dismisses how enslaved
people suffered under the practice and gives too much weight to
Western legal ideas. “European countries behave as if the law
said that Africans were not people, African societies were not
recognized as societies,” Bohardsingh said. “The only law that
they are having a conversation about when they bring up
international law is European law, which allowed for the taking
of people from another continent, enslaved them, and then said
‘Well, our law said that slavery is legal, so it is legal.’”
“The question is whose law are you going to judge the legality
of slavery by?” she added.[/quote]
Good point, hence the parallel need for:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/
Because we will not sound too convincing in arguing against the
moral validity of Western law when formerly colonized countries
(including Jamaica) themselves still use Western law!
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary_of_Jamaica
[quote]The judiciary of Jamaica is based on the judiciary of the
United Kingdom.[1] The courts are organized at four levels, with
additional provision for appeal to the Judicial Committee of the
Privy Council in London. The Court of Appeal is the highest
appellate court. The Supreme Court has unlimited jurisdiction in
all cases, and sits as the Circuit Court to try criminal cases.
The Parish Court (formerly known as the Resident Magistrate's
court) in each parish hears both criminal and civil cases,
excluding grave offences. The Petty Sessions are held under
Justices of the Peace, with power to hear minor crimes.[2][3]
Jamaica is a common law jurisdiction, in which precedents from
English law and British Commonwealth tradition may be taken into
account.[/quote]
Only when we ourselves have ceased to rely on Western law in
arbitrating our own internal disputes can we claim seriously
that Western law is wrong.
Back to article:
[quote]“Tokenistic gestures are not reparations at all,” said
Kehinde Andrews, a professor of Black studies at the U.K.’s
Birmingham City University and author of “The New Age of Empire:
How Racism & Colonialism Still Rule the World.” He added that
these sorts of announcements and programs are “worse than
nothing because they pretend to be something and people
celebrate them as progress.”
“We need to be careful with what is labeled and called
reparations, because it can actually do more harm than good,” he
said.[/quote]
Anything other than prohibiting all colonialist bloodlines from
reproducing should be regarded as a tokenistic gesture.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 5, 2022, 8:34 pm
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Is the US remembering Clintonism?
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-imposes-sanctions-against-bosnian-152139528.html
[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration announced
sanctions Wednesday against Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik,
accusing him of “corrupt activities” that threaten to
destabilize the region and undermine a U.S.-brokered peace
accord from more than 25 years ago.
The Treasury Department also alleged that Dodik has used his
leadership position to accumulate wealth through graft and
bribery, including by providing government contracts and
monopolies to business associates.
...
Dodik, a member of Bosnia’s tripartite presidency that also
includes a Bosniak and a Croat official, has for years been
advocating the separation of the Bosnian Serb semi-autonomous
mini-state from Bosnia and having it become part of neighboring
Serbia.
That what would be a breach of the Dayton Accords, the 1995
U.S.-sponsored peace agreement that ended Bosnia’s bloody civil
war, which killed more than 100,000 people and left millions
homeless in the worst carnage in Europe since World War II.
...
With tacit support from Russia and Serbia, Dodik recently
intensified his secessionist campaign, pledging to separate from
Bosnia’s loose central authority and form a Bosnian Serb army,
judiciary and tax system.
Bosniak officials have warned that Dodik’s policies could lead
to clashes and called on the U.S. and the EU to crack down
against him and his associates.[/quote]
Of course, the only correct way to crack down is to drop WMDs on
Serbia continuously until it surrenders unconditionally. Biden
is too cowardly to do something like this.
[quote]Dodik has repeatedly said he doesn’t care about new
sanctions, adding that this would bring Serbs even closer to
their “true friends” — Russia and China.[/quote]
Now if only China could side with the US against the Serbs, the
anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be formed.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: Dazhbog Date: January 6, 2022, 9:23 am
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=33.msg10413#msg10413
date=1641436466]Now if only China could side with the US against
the Serbs, the anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be
formed.[/quote]
Do you know why China turned pro-Serb in the first place? AFAIK
China's Cold War-era ally in the Balkans was actually Albania,
one of Serbia's staunchest enemies!
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 6, 2022, 9:08 pm
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China will turn a blind eye to whomever gives lip service to its
domestic policy:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Serbia_relations
[quote]Vučić has stated that "Serbia firmly supports
the Chinese government’s positions in safeguarding China’s core
interests including Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang and supports
the "One Belt And One Road" initiative"[12] [/quote]
This is why I despise Xi. Instead of having moral principles, he
only wants social validation. As long as you say you agree with
what he is doing, he will let you get away with anything:
[quote]China backs Serbia's position regarding Kosovo.
...
Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Božidar Đelić told
reporters after a meeting in Beijing with Politburo member Liu
Yandong that China reiterated its support to help Serbia
preserve her territorial integrity. "Just as Serbia supports the
one China policy, China supports Serbia as its best and most
stable friend in southeastern Europe."[16][/quote]
Albania, on the other hand:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania%E2%80%93China_relations#Issues_of_human_rights_in_China
[quote]On 6 October 2020, Albania was one of a group of 39
signatory countries to a statement at the United Nations which
denounced China for its treatment of ethnic Uyghur and other
Muslim minorities in Xinjiang and for curtailing freedoms in
Hong Kong.[13] [14][/quote]
Albania happens to be misinformed on this particular issue. But
the amoral and psychologically insecure Xi, instead of being
able to grasp that Albania is motivated by basically good
intentions behind the denunciation whereas Serbia is just
playing him by vocalizing support, interprets their respective
positions in the most superficial way possible as either
pro-China or anti-China, and then supporting whomever is more
pro-China, thus taking the wrong side.
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(My prediction is that Israel is preparing to play the same
trick on China, and China will fall for it unless it gets more
competent leadership than the subhuman Eurocentrist pictured
above.)
This all goes back to the very core of True Left ideology. So
long you want something for yourself, evil can always make you
become its protector by becoming the one who will give you what
you want in return. Evil can only be destroyed by those who want
nothing except the destruction of evil itself, for only then
have you left evil nothing with which to bargain with you.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: January 15, 2022, 5:45 am
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[quote author=Dazhbog link=topic=33.msg10422#msg10422
date=1641482615]
[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=33.msg10413#msg10413
date=1641436466]Now if only China could side with the US against
the Serbs, the anti-Turanist coalition would begin to be
formed.[/quote]
Do you know why China turned pro-Serb in the first place? AFAIK
China's Cold War-era ally in the Balkans was actually Albania,
one of Serbia's staunchest enemies!
[/quote]
A feud happened between 2 leaders starting from then leader of
Albania, Enver Hoxha. He disagreed with Mao's thought about the
three worlds theory and China's diplomacy to the USA.
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split
[quote]The Sino-Albanian split was the gradual worsening of
relations between the People's Socialist Republic of Albania and
the People's Republic of China in the period 1972–1978. Both
countries had supported each other in the Soviet–Albanian and
Sino-Soviet splits, together declaring the necessity of
defending Marxism–Leninism against what they regarded as Soviet
revisionism within the international communist movement. By the
early 1970s, however, Albanian disagreements with certain
aspects of Chinese policy deepened as the visit of Nixon to
China along with the Chinese announcement of the "Three Worlds
Theory" produced strong apprehension in Albania's leadership
under Enver Hoxha. Hoxha saw in these events an emerging Chinese
alliance with American imperialism and abandonment of
proletarian internationalism. In 1978, China broke off its trade
relations with Albania, signalling an end to the informal
alliance which existed between the two states.[/quote]
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 19, 2022, 9:43 pm
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Chinese slowness:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-shocked-slovenias-plans-allow-093000879.html
[quote]The Chinese foreign ministry said it was "shocked" by
Slovenia's plans to allow Taiwan to open an office there, saying
it would damage ties between China and Europe.
Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian also said that comments by
Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa, who made strong criticisms
of Beijing in a television interview on Monday, were
"dangerous".[/quote]
Why are you shocked? Slovenia is part of Turandom!
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg2025/#msg2025
Turandom is increasingly becoming the intellectual core of
Western civilization. Western civilization will always see China
as a threat. Therefore Turandom will increasingly feel compelled
to see China as a threat. This is simple logic.
[quote]It responded furiously to Lithuania after the European
country signed an agreement with Taiwan in July to open a de
facto embassy for the island under the name Taiwanese
Representative Office in Lithuania. The office opened in
November.[/quote]
Lithuania is also part of Turandom. Duh!
So long as China continues to misunderstand what Western
civilization is (ie. NOT Counterculture) and hence where it is
currently based (pun intended), it will keep getting its foreign
policy wrong.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 27, 2022, 8:45 pm
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Harris actually does some work for a change?
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/kamala-harris-attend-inauguration-incoming-130141394.html
[quote]Kamala Harris to attend inauguration of incoming
socialist Honduran president with anti-Semitic ties
...
Harris will be attending the inauguration of Honduran
President-elect Xiomara Castro on Thursday following Castro's
victory to the Central American nation’s highest office after
running on a socialist platform.
The vice president has maintained a line of communication with
Castro since the Honduran president-elect’s win, taking a call
in December to "deepen the partnership between the United States
and Honduras," according to Harris spokeswoman Sabrina Singh.
...
Castro’s running mate, First Vice President-elect Salvador
Nasralla. carries some serious baggage as well, having made past
unsavory comments about Jews and Israel.
In 2020, Nasralla claimed that outgoing Honduran President Juan
Orlando Hernández’s "boss is the government of Israel" and said
in a debate that Jews control the global money supply.[/quote]
All New World countries should cease to recognize Israel ASAP,
following the example of Venezuela:
[quote]Also raising eyebrows is Castro’s husband, former
Honduran President Mel Zelaya, a wealthy landowner in the
country who was deposed from his presidency by a military coup
in 2009.
Zelaya was Castro’s campaign manager and is a polarizing figure
in Honduran politics. The former president was ousted after
trying to recreate the policies of Venezuelan socialist
President Hugo Chávez.[/quote]
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Re: Duginism
By: guest55 Date: March 4, 2022, 8:27 pm
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Japan warned Russia: Stop the invasion in the Kuril Islands
[quote]Japan said, Russia occupied the southern part of the
Kuril Islands, which contradicts international law, as well as
the invasion of Ukraine. The Japanese government said, "The
Northern Territories are occupied by Russia, and we believe that
this contradicts the international law, as well as the ongoing
attack of the Russian army on Ukraine."[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztXzIocbyQI
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 4, 2022, 8:46 pm
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Good, but why only mention the Kuril Islands? Make Karafuto
Japanese again!
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/sakhalin/
HTML https://www.hoppou.go.jp/dist/images/en/EN-history_map_01.png
Don't even ask Russia for permission; just take back what is
yours!
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: rp Date: March 14, 2022, 7:35 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=33.msg1207#msg1207
date=1600406282]
Signs of spine?
HTML https://tfipost.com/2020/07/this-is-our-land-china-now-claims-russias-vladivostok-as-part-of-its-territory
[quote]Chinese internet users, including diplomats and
officials, claim that Vladivostok used to be a part of China.
They claim it was Qing’s Manchurian homeland but was annexed by
the Russian empire in 1860 after China was defeated by the
British and the French during the Second Opium war.
Shen Shiweim, a journalist at the Chinese State-run broadcaster,
China Global Television Network (CGTN) tweeted, “This “tweet” of
#Russian embassy to #China isn’t so welcome on Weibo. The
history of Vladivostok (literally ‘Ruler of the East’) is from
1860 when Russia built a military harbor. But the city was
Haishenwai as Chinese land, before Russia annexed it via unequal
Treaty of Beijing.”
...
China’s claims over Russia’s Vladivostok are not limited to the
state-owned media. Even Chinese diplomats have jumped in. Zhang
Heqing, a wolf-warrior from China currently stationed at the
country’s Mission in Pakistan said, “Isn’t this what in the past
was our Haishenwai?”
Meanwhile, the CCP IT cell too has gone berserk. A Weibo user
wrote, “Today we can only endure, but the Chinese people will
remember, and one generation after another will continue to
remember!” SCMP quotes another user as saying, “We must believe
that this ancestral land will return home in the
future!”[/quote]
Background:
HTML https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/dangers-building-ultra-patriotism-chinese-claim-vladivostok-haishenwai.html/
[quote]Having been battered by British and French during this
war, China learned of Russia’s strategic build-up of military
presence on its shared northern border. Russia was only willing
to withdraw troops if China were to cede territory along this
border.
Facing potential attacks by Russia from the north and the
onslaught of British and French forces on the south, the Qing
dynasty was compelled to comply with Russia demands to stave off
invasion on at least one front. This led to the signing of the
Treaty of Aigun in 1858, that formed much of the present day
borders between Russia and China, along the Amur River. The
Chinese have historically called this treaty an “unequal
treaty”, one in a series of treaties signed between the Qing
dynasty and neighbouring states in the region.
Russian diplomat Count Nikolay Pavlovich Ignatyev had witnessed
the havoc and plunder that the British and French had unleashed
upon Beijing, including engaging in loot and plunder and the
burning down of the Old Summer Palace, specifically ordered by
Britain’s Lord Elgin. Elgin, having set his eyes on the loot and
destruction of the Forbidden City next, urged the Chinese to sit
at the negotiating table with Ignatyev as the mediator in what
came to be known as the Convention of Peking between China,
Russia, Britain and France.
As a result of this convention, in October 1860, the British
acquired the Kowloon Peninsula and control over Hong Kong. Among
other agreements, opium was made legal, a move that economically
benefited France and Britain. From China’s perspective, these
agreements were exploitative and sharply skewed in favour of the
two western nations.
Knowing how desperately China was trying to protect its capital,
Ignatyev pushed for the Qing rulers to accept the terms of the
agreements, and also threw in what the Chinese call “Outer
Manchuria” for Russia, an area significantly larger than what it
had originally desired. One part of this territory is now called
the Primorsky Krai. According to Lukin, the Russian government
had already established a military outpost in the region even
before signing a formal treaty of cessation with the Qing
dynasty.
This area of the Primorsky Krai, along with the Golden Horn Bay,
with its administrative capital as Vladivostok, became an
important sea port for Russia and allowed the country to expand
economic and military influence in this part of the Pacific. It
is also known as the Russian Maritime Province. Today,
Vladivostok is the base for the Russian Pacific Fleet.[/quote]
HTML https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Semiha_Karaoglu/publication/338659850/figure/fig4/AS:848414883463169@1579289279887/Greater-Manchuria-Russian-outer-Manchuria-is-the-lighter-red-region-to-the-upper-right_Q640.jpg
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