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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 17, 2021, 11:53 pm
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The correct way to talk to colonialists:
HTML https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2021-09-16/china-fires-back-at-aukus-alliance-with-violent-rhetoric-australian-troops-would-be-the-first-to-die
[quote]"Australia has turned itself into an adversary of China,"
China's English-language Global Times, considered a mouthpiece
for the Chinese Communist Party, proclaimed in an editorial
Thursday morning.
"If Australia dares to provoke China more blatantly," it added,
"or even find fault militarily, China will certainly punish it
with no mercy."
...
"Thus, Australian troops are also most likely to be the first
batch of Western soldiers to waste their lives in the South
China Sea."[/quote]
I especially like the term "Western soldiers" to emphasize who
they are. But is it really "with no mercy" if only Western
soldiers in the South China Sea are killed? Why not also those
on Australian soil? Haven't Western occupiers been occupying
long enough the land they stole?
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See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: acc9 Date: October 3, 2021, 12:47 am
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HTML https://mysingaporenews.blogspot.com/2021/06/an-egyptian-muslim-intellectual-praised.html
[quote]Ismail Bashmori - An Egyptian muslim intellectual praised
the dignifiied and righteous China but castigated and condemned
the savage barbaric West / US centuries of aggression,
colonialism and imperialism.[/quote]
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 3, 2021, 2:37 am
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[quote]China is the only major country in the non-white
developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye
when challenged or threatened and say , No, I'm not afraid of
you. Do your worst. I'm just as big as you are. All other
countries in the Global south are simply Western puppets who
submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones, Saudi Arabia,
Brazil, India - their leaders are busily listening to the United
States , pen and paper in hand, writing down all its demands and
going, Yes, sir, Mr. Yankee sir. Let me get on that right away
for you.[/quote]
This is not quite true. Iran has not submitted. On the other
hand, China (unlike Iran) recognizes Israel, therefore saying
China is standing up to the West is an exaggeration.
[quote]We are decades away from China becoming the greatest
power on earth. This will be China's time and there's nothing
anyone can do about it.[/quote]
Will China withdraw recognition of Israel after it has become
the greatest power on Earth? Perhaps it will, but I am not at
all sure about this.
[quote]What's going on now, this stupid new Cold War is nothing.
For her first thirty years , from 1949 to 1979 , China was
basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by
the West. It didn't even have a seat in the UN General Assembly.
And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global
economy, a tiny fraction of Japan's or Germany's GDP - not even
able to prevent famine. And it still didn't submit to pressure
or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?[/quote]
Actually:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations
[quote]During the 1955 Asian–African Conference, China expressed
support for the Palestinian right of return, but refrained from
denying Israel's right to exist and secretly pursued trade ties
with the Israelis.[21][/quote]
But it's this line which I really dislike:
[quote]China is a better place to live today than at any time in
its previous 5,000 years.[/quote]
This author is a despicable progressive who has just claimed
that the present-day Westernized China is superior to the entire
pre-Westernized historical China! I would infinitely prefer to
live in any period of ancient China prior to the colonial era
over China today:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hAmMUkRgCg
I would also prefer to live in Deng-era China over China today,
as we already discussed here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6864/#msg6864
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg6866/#msg6866
Until Chinese people overwhelmingly feel the same way, China
will keep going down the wrong path:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-gorges-american-grain-fed-032748928.html
[quote]New York chain Wolfgang's Steakhouse, which has two
restaurants in Beijing, opened another in the southern city of
Shenzhen this year and has plans for a fourth in Hangzhou.
The restaurant flies in chilled U.S. beef before ageing it. Its
800g rib-eyes cost $150 apiece.
"Young people like meat, especially 20- and 30-year-olds who
come here on dates," said Glen Feng, manager of the Beijing
outlets.
...
In China, USMEF has doubled the number of training events
teaching local chefs how best to cut and slice[/quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg8450/#msg8450
Continuing:
[quote]Aren't you at least curious to see a world with a
non-white, non-Western leader might look like, after 400
years?[/quote]
Very much so. Unfortunately, Xi is in many ways a Westerner with
Chinese characteristics:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg8673/#msg8673
so we will have to wait at least until he retires or dies to
possibly see one.
I also dislike this line of argument:
[quote]You turn a blind eye to the country that gave you dozens
of destroyed nations and millions of corpses to see as proof of
its brutality, because it also gave you some amazing sitcoms!
...
We've seen centuries of horror from the US and we're still
giving "Murica the benefit of the doubt , even when the brutal
truth is crystal-clear.[/quote]
It was Western civilization that did the centuries of horror. It
was America that did the (Counterculture-inspired) sitcoms.
Giving America the benefit of the doubt simply means believing
America will one day drive Western civilization out of the US.
This is already happening:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/demographic-blueshift/
It is not necessary to be anti-US in order to be pro-China. This
is a new bandwagon that many are jumping on, and I fear it will
lead to yet another mistake that will not be corrected in time.
I repeat: only the US and China working together is strong
enough to defeat Western civilization.
[quote]When I hear that China has built its own space station,
landed a rover on Mars, extreme poverty, built the earth's
biggest city, dam, telescope, 5G network, highway, air purifier,
or whatever the heck it is that will come tomorrow - I feel the
same pride as if I were Chinese. It's not happening for all of
us , but it's happening for one of us and that's a start.
There's got to be such a thing as developing-country nationalism
- a common nationalism for all the countries that were colonized
and plundered and remain economically and politically captured
by their ex-rulers. A nationalism for the Global South. We are
too divided , too brainwashed, too fooled and weak - most of us
still worship the countries that destroyed us, are non-Western
on the outside and Western on the inside[/quote]
I agree in principle, but do you not see that China itself is in
many ways Western on the inside? See the part in bold.
[quote]and are leaving our countries in droves to let them burn
while we "make a better life for ourselves" in the West. Do you
want to live in a Western-dominated Earth for another 400 years?
If you do, keep doing what you're doing. But I don't .[/quote]
Wrong. Migrating to Western countries gives us a chance to
transform them into non-Western countries. It is by ceasing to
migrate to Western countries that ensures Western dominance will
continue.
[quote]NB: Please forward this message to as many people as
possible so that the non-white world countries and people will
wake up and realize how wicked and evil the white race people
are especially the Five Eyes Anglo-Saxons of America, England,
Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other European powers like
France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Italy,
Sweden and Poland.[/quote]
Why no mention of Israel among the list of villains (or anywhere
else in the entire article, for that matter)? This causes me to
wonder if this article is a Zionist psy-op. Remember that when
Israel is done exploiting the US, its plan is to cause it to
implode so that the US will be too weak to threaten Israel
militarily by the time it turns anti-Israel ideologically. This
article seems to be coherent with such an objective (also shared
by Duginists, for their own purposes). In contrast, we are here
to prevent (or at least minimize) a US implosion so that the US
remains strong enough to return to the world stage on the side
of the formerly colonized countries against all the Western
colonial powers, thus fulfilling its historical destiny.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: rp Date: October 3, 2021, 6:59 am
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FYI Russia also belongs on the list of enemy countries.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 13, 2021, 4:57 am
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Congratulations to Barbados!
HTML https://wtop.com/world/2021/09/barbados-to-remove-queen-elizabeth-as-head-of-state-in-december/
[quote]The Caribbean island nation of Barbados — known to some
as “Little England” — will officially remove England’s Queen
Elizabeth II as its head of state later this year.
Barbados is one of 16 nations that still recognize the Queen of
England as head of state. But in about two months, after more
than 20 years of planning, it will become the world’s newest
Republic, removing the queen as its nominal ruler. That will
reduce the number of countries that the queen “rules” to 15.
Jamaica, another British Commonwealth, is also considering
removing Queen Elizabeth as their head of state.[/quote]
Hoping Jamaica follows soon!
[quote]As in many democracies, the ruling power of the president
will be limited in Barbados. That may change as the country may
soon begin to rewrite its constitution.
In doing so, Barbados could potentially adopt the American-style
of government — with a president as head of the executive
branch, and separate legislative and judicial branches. It could
also choose to retain the so-called ‘Westminster system‘, under
which it has operated for more than half a century.[/quote]
Why not take this chance to abandon democracy altogether?
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Re: Turkey
By: guest55 Date: October 18, 2021, 7:02 pm
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Erdogan delivers message of unity during speech in Angola
[quote]“For a fairer world we have to work hand in hand”
Turkey’s President Erdogan highlighted the importance of
cooperation in standing against colonialism and oppression in
Angola on the first leg of his Africa tour.
#Angola #Erdogan #Turkey[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRTZgUqzpY
[quote]Exactly. Love to Algeria, turkey, Tunisia,[/quote]
[quote]This is how great leaders true friends advice those who
in trouble 👍💖🤲[/quote]
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 24, 2021, 10:21 pm
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 26, 2021, 9:52 pm
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Slow work pays off eventually:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/beijing-billions-buying-commonwealth-130713821.html
[quote]When Tuesday morning dawns in Barbados, British influence
in the Caribbean will retreat one more step as the island
becomes a republic, ending almost 400 years of loyalty to the
Crown.
...
In truth, however, Barbados has already drifted away from
Britain, and in common with dozens of other Commonwealth members
it has become increasingly dependent on another international
partner: China.
Britain may have the Queen, but China has the cash, and in
recent years Beijing has ploughed almost £500 million into the
Barbadian economy, which equates to around a tenth of its gross
domestic product. Roads, homes, sewers and a hotel have all been
constructed with Chinese yuan, not British pounds or US dollars.
The picture is the same in Jamaica, widely expected to be the
next Commonwealth realm to become a republic, where £2.6 billion
of Chinese investment, against a GDP of £16.4 billion, makes it
the biggest recipient of Chinese cash in the Caribbean.
In total, China has invested £685 billion across 42 Commonwealth
countries since 2005, according to figures compiled by the
American Enterprise Institute.
...
When Barbados becomes a republic next week, it will remain a
member of the Commonwealth, the 54-member association which has
expanded during the Queen’s reign and remains one of her
proudest achievements.
The danger, though, for British diplomacy is that a future
president of Barbados could decide to leave the Commonwealth and
build new alliances elsewhere.[/quote]
Common history as former victims of Western colonialism is more
important than so-called "Commonwealth". This is what China
shares with all Commonwealth countries that used to be British
colonies. Take Barbados, for example:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/barbados/
But continuing with the main article:
[quote]On the other side of the world, Commonwealth member
Pakistan, which is the biggest recipient of UK Overseas
Development Assistance, to the tune of £305 million in 2019, is
also being targeted by China. Since 2005 it has received £60
billion of investment from China, more than a fifth of its GDP,
and it now buys 70 per cent of its arms from China.
...
Biyika Lawrence Songa, an MP in the Parliament of Uganda, a
member state which has had almost £9 billion of Chinese
investment, says: “Commonwealth countries, including Uganda, are
running to China instead of Britain or other countries, because
it is very easy to access Chinese money and it is easy for our
businessmen to get Chinese visas if they want to go there to buy
materials, for example.
...
Democracies, with their ever-changing governments, tend to
prioritise short-term gains, whereas, says Flather: “China has a
permanent government and now an almost permanent leader... it’s
able to think long-term.”[/quote]
Another thing former victims of Western colonialism have in
common is that none of our ancient governments used to be
democratic. Some of us are democratic at present only due to
colonial-era influence. None of us should want to remain
democratic in the future.
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/western-democracy/
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: Zea_mays Date: December 16, 2021, 7:37 pm
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If you edit Trump out of this and replace him with a generic
representation of US-North Korean diplomacy, this is actually
kind of good. (At least until it got to 2:50 and tried to pitch
consumerism/Westernization as a "benefit" of diplomacy).
Video from 2018 included in the link:
[quote]Trump pitched peace to Kim Jong Un with this
Hollywood-style video starring Kim as the leading man
It features epic shots and frames Kim as a potential "hero of
his people" who can "remake history."
Trump said that Kim and his aides "loved" watching it, and hoped
they would make it a reality.[/quote]
HTML https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pitches-peace-to-kim-jong-un-with-bizarre-hollywood-style-video-2018-6
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: December 16, 2021, 10:16 pm
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BOYCOTT LITHUANIA!
HTML https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18034/lithuania-china
[quote]China has blocked all imports from Lithuania and has
ordered multinational companies to sever ties with the Baltic
country or face being shut out of the Chinese market.
...
Lithuanian President Gitanas Nausėda says that his country
will not capitulate to bullying from China and that he is
committed to defending the principles and values of democracy
from attack.[/quote]
Nauseda's face:
HTML https://lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Dr.-Gitanas-Naus%C4%97da-678x381.png
[quote]Lithuania, which has a population of fewer than 3
million, regained independence in 1990 after almost half a
century of occupation by the Soviet Union. Lithuania has become
one of the strongest defenders of democracy within the European
Union and NATO.
On December 9, Lithuania's Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs,
Mantas Adomėnas, said that China had warned multinational
companies to stop doing business with Lithuanian suppliers:
"China has been sending messages to multinationals that if
they use parts and supplies from Lithuania, they will no longer
be allowed to sell to the Chinese market or get supplies there.
We have seen some companies cancel contracts with Lithuanian
suppliers."[/quote]
Adomenas' face:
HTML https://lithuaniatribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/8125516-678x381.jpg
[quote]The Lithuanian Confederation of Industrialists, which
represents thousands of Lithuanian companies, confirmed that
some multinational companies that buy goods from Lithuanian
suppliers were being targeted by China. In an interview with the
Reuters news agency, Confederation President Vidmantas
Janulevičius said:
"This week was the first time we saw direct Chinese pressure
on a supplier to drop Lithuanian-made goods. Previously, we only
had threats it could happen, now they became reality.
"For us, the most painful part is that it's a European
company. Many Lithuanian businesses are suppliers for such
companies."
[/quote]
Janulevicius' face:
HTML https://static.wixstatic.com/media/f16d7e_b3d53887dfe34b488886caa745249428~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_628%2Ch_667%2Cal_c%2Cq_90/file.jpg
[quote]Lithuania's direct trade with China is relatively small;
the country exported €300 million worth of goods to China in
2020, less than 1% of its total exports. It is, however, home to
hundreds of companies that make products for multinationals that
sell to China.
On December 1, China delisted Lithuania as a country of origin,
meaning that its goods cannot clear customs. Lithuanian Foreign
Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said that China effectively had
blocked all imports from Lithuania.
In a December 3 interview with the Financial Times, Landsbergis
denounced the "unannounced" and "unprecedented" sanctions. He
said that Lithuania would ask the European Commission, the
administrative body of the European Union, for
assistance.[/quote]
Landsbergis' face:
[img]
HTML https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lithuanias-foreign-minister-gabrielius-landsbergis-speaks-while-for-picture-id1235273307[/img]
[quote]Lithuania's Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Arnoldas
Pranckevičius, speaking at the Aspen Security Forum in
Washington, DC, warned that China's harassment of Lithuania
should be a "wakeup call" for Europe:
"China is trying to make an example out of us — a negative
example — so that other countries do not follow our path.
Therefore, it is a matter of principle how the Western
community, the United States, and European Union react."
[/quote]
Pranckevicius' face:
HTML https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/arnoldas-pranckevicius_0.jpg
[quote]Help from the European Commission is unlikely to come
soon, as the EU is deeply divided over relations with China.
Larger member states such as France and Germany are reluctant to
jeopardize economic ties with China, while smaller member
states, including Lithuania, Czechia, Slovakia and Slovenia have
urged the EU to stand united against Chinese pressure.[/quote]
Turandom is the problem.
[quote]Jakub Janda, director of the Prague-based European Values
Center for Security Policy, concluded:
"China as a communist superpower is so scared of 3-million
Lithuania on the other side of the globe. Lithuania is the
bravest country in Europe. We should all stand up with
Lithuania."[/quote]
Janda's face:
[img]
HTML https://www.mujrozhlas.cz/sites/default/files/styles/detail/public/rapi/5bc048ef6338c2fc161c26b436cedd04.jpg?h=2e5c549a&itok=UjiQDdtw[/img]
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/msg10151/#msg10151
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