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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 16, 2022, 12:01 am
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For completeness, it is worth noting that Ukrainians were also
in on the colonization of Outer Manchuria:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Ukraine
[quote]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Green_Ukraine_-_Zeleny_Klyn_-_Russian_Federation.jpg
Green Ukraine, also known as Zeleny Klyn (Ukrainian:
Зелений
клин, romanized: Zelenyy Klyn, Russian:
Зелёный
Клин, romanized: Zelyonyy Klin,
literally: "the green gore/wedge"),[3] is a historical Ukrainian
name for the land in the Russian Far East area between the Amur
River and the Pacific Ocean, an area roughly corresponding to
the Chinese concept of Outer Manchuria.
After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Transcathay (Ukrainian:
Закитайщи&
#1085;а,
romanized: Zakytayshchyna) was a projected country in the
Russian Far East.[4] After the establishment of the Bolshevik
Far Eastern Republic on April 6, 1920, Far Eastern areas with an
ethnic Ukrainian majority attempted to secede and establish an
entity called Green Ukraine.[citation needed] This movement
quickly proved abortive.
...
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ukrainians_in_Russian_regions_1926.jpg/1024px-Ukrainians_in_Russian_regions_1926.jpg
The Zeleny Klyn (Ukrainian:
Зелений
клин), or Zelena Ukraina was an area of
land settled by Ukrainians which is a part of the Russian Far
East in the area of the Amur River and the Pacific Ocean. It was
named by the Ukrainian settlers. The territory consists of over
1,000,000 square kilometres and has a population of 3.1 million
(1958). The Ukrainian population in 1897 made up 15% of the
Primorskaya Oblast's population.[5]
Zeleny Klyn became part of the Russian Empire much later than
Siberia and other parts of the Far East. The first attempts at
colonizing the area date back to the mid-17th century when
Yerofey Khabarov founded the fort of Albazin on the Amur River.
From that time, constant skirmishes took place with the Manchu
people of China. In 1689 China and Russia signed the Treaty of
Nerchinsk, which granted Russia limited territory.
In the mid 19th century, the second Russian expansion took place
after Russia lost the Crimean War (1853–1856). A number of
Cossack settlements were established on the Amur river. China
had become far weaker than Russia at the time and ceded
territory to Russia in the Treaty of Aigun of 1858 and by the
Convention of Peking of 1860 (see Amur Annexation).
During this period only a small number of settlers settled in
the region consisting of some 14,000 Cossacks and 2,500 Russian
soldiers. In 1861 two oblasts were established, the Primorsky
and Amur. Vladivostok was founded in 1860, Khabarovsk in 1858.
In 1882 free transportation was announced for settlers to the
area from Ukraine and free land was offered to settlers. By 1897
the population had increased to 310,000. With the establishment
of the railroad in 1901 over 14,000 settlers were moving to the
area per year, with a maximum of 78,000 settlers moving there in
1907.
After 1917[citation needed] the area came under the jurisdiction
of Admiral Alexander Kolchak. In 1920 the Far East Republic was
established as a buffer republic between Russia and Japan. In
1922 the republic joined with the Russian Soviet Federative
Socialist Republic. In 1934 the Jewish Autonomous Oblast region
was established with its capital at Birobidzhan.[/quote]
NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.
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Re: China and United States Relations
By: guest55 Date: March 17, 2022, 9:04 pm
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4 ways China is quietly making life harder for Russia
HTML https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/17/business/china-russia-sanctions-friction-intl-hnk/index.html
Letting the ruble drop
Sitting on reserves
Withholding aircraft parts
Freezing infrastructure investment
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: rp Date: March 20, 2022, 11:29 am
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Myth of Chinese debt trap in Africa (for the ZC idiots who claim
that China is "colonizing" Africa):
HTML https://youtu.be/_-QDEWwSkP0
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 26, 2022, 9:51 pm
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HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-foreign-minister-see-indian-023446795.html
[quote]"China does not pursue the so-called "unipolar Asia" and
respects India's traditional role in the region. The whole world
will pay attention when China and India work hand in
hand."[/quote]
This on its own is a good vision. However, the correct way to
see improved relations between India and China is that this
makes it easier for both to turn on Russia. I fear this is not
what either is thinking about, though:
[quote]India and China each consider Russia a friend and have
rejected Western calls for condemnation of Russia's invasion of
Ukraine, which Russia calls a "special military
operation".[/quote]
If China and India are improving relations with each other not
to isolate Russia but instead to consolidate their respective
relationships with Russia, then this is going all wrong.
Dugin wants to present India has having only two options:
HTML https://www.india-seminar.com/2020/728/728_aleksandr_dugin.htm
[quote]This possibly explains India’s hesitation to join the
multipolar club where two poles, Russia and China, are almost
fully established, or come closer to the West and help contain
the emergence of a Greater Eurasia. Both paths are feasible and
can be evaluated.[/quote]
Why not the third option of forming an anti-colonialist club
with China and then winning over the US to join this club also?
India, with its presently closer relations to the US, could
become the bridge linking up the US with China. Of course Dugin
does not discuss this possibility because he doesn't want anyone
to even think about it.
[quote]India, in accordance to this forecast, will be the second
most important economy in world by GDP next to China and ahead
of the US and Europe. Together with China, it would gives us
total dominance in the world economy; 53% (India China) against
28% (US EU). It would tilt the balance of the world economy to
the East.[/quote]
If we switch the US (a fellow former victim of Western
colonialism) over to the same side as China and India, the
dominance over the totality of the Western colonial powers
(including Russia) will be even greater! More importantly, it
will represent the collective triumph of former victims of
Western colonialism over their former colonizers. In contrast,
letting Russia - not only a Western colonial power but the only
one which still hasn't given back its stolen land! - join the
India-China bloc would screw up the entire story.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: rp Date: March 26, 2022, 10:23 pm
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I think Dugin is selling the Russia-India alliance based on the
latter's hostility toward Maoist China, and the Russia's
"support" of India during the Sino-Indian war.
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: rp Date: March 31, 2022, 6:45 pm
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Also, many Indians are apprehensive of China because of alleged
"Han supremacy".
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: guest55 Date: April 1, 2022, 11:07 pm
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Japan calls Russia's South Kuril Islands 'illegally occupied'
[quote]The Japanese authorities have reinstated the formulation
about the status of South Kuril Islands. These islands are "are
an inalienable part of Japan and are currently illegally
occupied by Russia."[/quote]
HTML https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/150932-japan_russia_kurils/
Clash between Japan and Russia looms as Tokyo steps up Kuril
Island claims: ‘Russian Army is illegal occupier’
[quote]The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan will now call
the Kuril Islands a part of Japan occupied by the Russian
Federation, Kyodo, the Japanese media informs.
— Svidomi (@Svidomi_En) March 31, 2022[/quote]
HTML https://www.cityam.com/clash-between-japan-and-russia-looms-as-tokyo-steps-up-kuril-island-claims-russian-army-is-illegal-occupier/
HTML https://www.cityam.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Japan-Russia.png
[quote]“The Northern Territories belong to Japan. They are the
territory on which Japan has sovereignty,” Kishida said.[/quote]
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 1, 2022, 11:36 pm
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So is Japan willing to fight Russia? If so, there is no better
time than now to do so, while Russia is already occupied with
Ukraine and with public opinion as against Russia as it is. If
we miss this chance, how long will we have to wait for another
comparable one?
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: guest55 Date: April 2, 2022, 1:08 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=33.msg12443#msg12443
date=1648874171]
So is Japan willing to fight Russia? If so, there is no better
time than now to do so, while Russia is already occupied with
Ukraine and with public opinion as against Russia as it is. If
we miss this chance, how long will we have to wait for another
comparable one?[/quote]
Exactly. Other people have been pointing this out as well, maybe
just not as bluntly. This would be the perfect time to open a
second front on Russia!
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Re: Diplomatic decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 13, 2022, 2:26 am
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A milestone:
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/news/zealand-court-rules-suspect-extradited-055104861.html
[quote]WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — New Zealand's top court on
Wednesday ruled a man can be extradited to China to face a
murder charge — a landmark judgment that goes against the trend
set by most democratic nations.
In a 3-2 decision, the Supreme Court found that China was able
to give New Zealand officials sufficient assurance that the
accused, Kyung Yup Kim, could get a fair trial and wouldn't be
tortured.
Concerns over those issues have been enough to stop most
democratic countries from extraditing suspects to China in
recent times. Like many other nations, New Zealand doesn't have
a formal extradition treaty with China.
The decision is sure to be celebrated by China's ruling
Communist Party as not only a legal victory but also a
diplomatic and public relations success.[/quote]
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