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       Re: True Left Breakthrough: Anti-Whiteness
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 24, 2025, 9:03 pm
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       If I were designing it, the entire population would be divided
       among the following non-intersecting living regions:
       1) Children's society
       2) Pre-reproduction male society
       3) Pre-reproduction female society
       4) Reproducing pairs
       5) Post-reproduction society
       So everyone would start in 1) where they can stay at the latest
       until puberty, or choose to leave at any earlier time. Upon
       leaving 1), they are triaged by the state to either 2) or 3).
       Anyone in 2) can go ahead to 5) at any time of their choosing.
       Anyone in 3) can go ahead to 5) at any time of their choosing
       provided they first undergo surgery to remove reproductive
       organs, or can go ahead to 5) without surgery when they reach
       menopause. 4), where every pair will additionally be isolated
       from every other pair, will only be for those selected* by the
       state for reproduction and who agree to volunteer, and only for
       as long as it takes to reproduce, following which they go back
       to 2) or 3) while their offspring go to 1).
       The above applies to everyone. Therefore the child in your
       example will not be treated differently than anyone else.
       (* Positive selection will be based on information collected in
       1) only, where inhabitants will have no knowledge of selection
       occurring. However, information collected in 2) and 3) can still
       be used to disqualify those previously positively selected.)
       Please feel welcome to point out potential weaknesses in my
       design, suggest improvements to it, or ask questions about it.
       #Post#: 31038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: True Left Breakthrough: Anti-Whiteness
       By: rp Date: September 24, 2025, 9:28 pm
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       " Anyone in 2) can go ahead to 5) at any time of their choosing.
       Anyone in 3) can go ahead to 5) at any time of their choosing
       provided they first undergo surgery to remove reproductive
       organs"
       Why only the requirement to reproductive organs for females and
       not males?
       #Post#: 31039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: True Left Breakthrough: Anti-Whiteness
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 24, 2025, 9:36 pm
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       With no eggs, sperm will not lead to reproduction.
       If your complaint is that the policy is unfair to females
       wanting to leave 3) early as compared to males wanting to leave
       2) early, I am open to a tax cut to compensate those affected.
       #Post#: 31260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: True Left Breakthrough: Anti-Whiteness
       By: antizion Date: October 29, 2025, 11:57 am
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       [quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=3248.msg31039#msg31039
       date=1758767799]
       With no eggs, sperm will not lead to reproduction.
       If your complaint is that the policy is unfair to females
       wanting to leave 3) early as compared to males wanting to leave
       2) early, I am open to a tax cut to compensate those affected.
       [/quote]
       Given that sterilizing males is a less involved process than
       sterilizing females, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be
       the other way around.
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       Re: True Left Breakthrough: Anti-Whiteness
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 29, 2025, 6:22 pm
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       My reasoning was that females are born with all the eggs they
       will ever have and run out of them by middle age, whereas males
       continuously produce new sperm for as long as they are alive,
       therefore females can eventually go to 5) without surgery anyway
       whereas males cannot, therefore the currently proposed
       arrangement should minimize the total number of surgeries.
       If as you propose we were to let all females go to 5) without
       surgery while males can only go to 5) after surgery, every male
       wishing to go to 5) will require surgery first. Whereas if as I
       propose we let all males go to 5) without surgery while females
       can go to 5) either after surgery or after menopause, only a
       fraction of females wishing to go to 5) will choose the surgery
       route. It is even possible that zero surgeries are required,
       provided all females choose to wait until menopause before going
       to 5). This would not be possible under your proposed
       alternative arrangement.
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