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JAM
By: rp Date: November 24, 2020, 1:04 am
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[quote]To be "white" in the first place requires a suspension of
objective reality; you have to willingly deceive yourself to
accept the membership card for the "White Club." You have to
look in the mirror and see a complexion that is nowhere near
"white" and say, "I'm white," and it is at that point that
you're ready to believe anything else no matter how absurd. No
human being is colored white, nor even comes close to the color
white. - JAM[/quote]
What happened to JAM? Did he end up becoming a rightist? If so,
why is it that so many former non-racist anti-Zionists have
become rightists? One other example I mentioned in a comment on
the blog was ZCF a.k.a Brandon Martinez. I in fact found
Aryanism through Martinez's interview with Veronica Clark,
whereupon I learned that National Socialism was a non-racist
ideology.
This really troubles me, as it seems to show a worrying trend of
anti-Zionism inevitably degenerating into racism, even
corrupting former non-racists. What could be the reason for
this?
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Re: Re: Psychological decolonization
By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 24, 2020, 2:33 am
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"What happened to JAM? Did he end up becoming a rightist?
I don't know what happened to JAM, though based on my past
interaction with him I find it hard to imagine that he would
ever become racist.
The only position JAM could be described as rightist on is
gender. As I described in the past, JAM at one point tried an
approach of emphasizing masculinity as a positive quality,
supposedly as a way for men of different ethnic backgrounds to
unify. As soon as he told me about this, I warned against it: I
told him that the more masculine he convinces his male audience
to become, the more racist they will become, as racism is
psychologically highly related to sexual competition, and
masculine men have a stronger consciousness of sexual
competition in social behaviour. He ignored me. I was correct,
and his own male audience (whom he had taught all about being
masculine) soon turned on him for attacking WNs.
"This really troubles me, as it seems to show a worrying trend
of anti-Zionism inevitably degenerating into racism, even
corrupting former non-racists. What could be the reason for
this?"
Boromir Syndrome.
Which is not to say it is inevitable. This is all the more need
for people like us to show the world that there can exist
anti-Zionists who are not corrupted.
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Re: Re: Psychological decolonization
By: guest5 Date: November 24, 2020, 2:38 am
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[quote author=rp link=topic=44.msg2456#msg2456 date=1606201445]
[quote]To be "white" in the first place requires a suspension of
objective reality; you have to willingly deceive yourself to
accept the membership card for the "White Club." You have to
look in the mirror and see a complexion that is nowhere near
"white" and say, "I'm white," and it is at that point that
you're ready to believe anything else no matter how absurd. No
human being is colored white, nor even comes close to the color
white. - JAM[/quote]
What happened to JAM? Did he end up becoming a rightist? If so,
why is it that so many former non-racist anti-Zionists have
become rightists? One other example I mentioned in a comment on
the blog was ZCF a.k.a Brandon Martinez. I in fact found
Aryanism through Martinez's interview with Veronica Clark,
whereupon I learned that National Socialism was a non-racist
ideology.
This really troubles me, as it seems to show a worrying trend of
anti-Zionism inevitably degenerating into racism, even
corrupting former non-racists. What could be the reason for
this?
[/quote]
You have to have a pretty strong mind to do what we do, in my
almost two decades of doing this I've witnessed quite a few
minds break. I won't speak for JAM because I still have respect
for what he has accomplished in this fight, but I've certainly
never agreed with everything he has ever said, which I can say
for all people I've come across in my many times around the sun.
In regards to both JAM and BM though, remember that they were
closely associated with Mike Delaney at one point, and if I'm
not mistaken that was before both of them discovered Aryanism? I
actually stopped reading and listening to both JAM and BM
because of their association with Delaney back then....
One of the last JAM videos about the "NWO" I ever listened too
he spoke of how one must "burn their bridges so the crazies
can't follow you" type topics. I can usually read people pretty
well, I have to say though JAM has always been a hard read for
myself. I think BM is a good one though, but alas we all learn
and discover at our own pace. I just did not see eye to eye on a
lot of issues with BM a decade or so ago. I do respect BM for
how much effort he put into the fight for truth back then, and
perhaps still is? His work was quite impressive for how young he
was when he put it out there.
I also really like Patrick Willis and Les Visible over at the
Smoking Mirrors blog, but I don't agree with a lot of their work
either....
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Re: JAM
By: rp Date: November 24, 2020, 3:16 am
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"The only position JAM could be described as rightist on is
gender. As I described in the past, JAM at one point tried an
approach of emphasizing masculinity as a positive quality,
supposedly as a way for men of different ethnic backgrounds to
unify."
I see. I recall that in the podcast about monarchism I posted on
the "Western Democracy" thread, he talked about the need to "man
up", etc., although in fairness he was probably using that type
of language to appeal to the audience. So technically it wasn't
up until a few years ago that he started explicitly emphasizing
masculinity, through his promotion of MGTOW, etc.
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Re: JAM
By: rp Date: November 28, 2020, 9:49 pm
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"The only position JAM could be described as rightist on is
gender. As I described in the past, JAM at one point tried an
approach of emphasizing masculinity as a positive quality,
supposedly as a way for men of different ethnic backgrounds to
unify."
Now that I think of it, JAM is similar to my father. My father
(a non-Westerner) has also been involved with
anti-Zionist/truther ideology and has even questioned the
Holocaust, recognizing that Hitler was anti-colonialist.
However, like JAM, he has also shifted rightwards on gender, but
has not turned racist/Zionist. Given that JAM is also a father,
perhaps there is a correlation between fatherhood and
right-leaning views on gender?
Nevertheless, I do think non-Westerners such as these are
somewhat redeemable, provided they are willing to follow our
leadership unquestionably, compared to False Leftist Westerners
such as Abby Martin. What do you think?
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Re: Re: Psychological decolonization
By: guest5 Date: November 28, 2020, 10:06 pm
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[quote]Nevertheless, I do think non-Westerners such as these are
somewhat redeemable, provided they are willing to follow our
leadership unquestionably, compared to False Leftist Westerners
such as Abby Martin. What do you think?[/quote]
From what I gather from JAM's last Youtube videos he seemed
frustrated that more men were not standing up to fight for truth
and against Zionism and Jewry. He falsely blamed the cause of
this phenomenon of cowardice, selfishness, and laziness, on
women, hence why I think he attempted to infiltrate the MGTOW
movement in the first place. This is a common misconception of
western men and it derives from this type of rightist thinking:
HTML https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/898/444/8d1.jpg
In actuality usually under 3% to 5% of any given population ever
take up arms and heed the call of revolution.
More Americans Fought in the American Revolution Than We Thought
[quote]It’s worth noting that even six percent is considered a
very sizable number of the population of any country to fight a
war. What the evidence shows is that the war was very popular
among Americans, who did turn out to fight hard for their
freedom, participating in rates much higher than what you see
from other countries in their wars. Our service was something to
be proud of, not something to be ashamed of, as some on the
fringes would lead us to believe.[/quote]
HTML https://observer.com/2017/07/soldiers-militia-american-revolution/
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Re: JAM
By: rp Date: March 26, 2021, 1:22 pm
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JAM Jr. debates Tom Metzger on imperialism:
HTML https://youtu.be/Lx5D2fnSCvE
Metzger is not interested in defeating the Jews, but instead
only in benefiting whites.
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Re: JAM
By: guest28 Date: May 26, 2021, 10:12 am
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Does anybody have an archive on JAM?
I am unable to find much about him.
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Re: JAM
By: rp Date: May 26, 2021, 9:36 pm
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Search for "John Alan Martinson" on archive.org.
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Re: JAM
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 29, 2021, 12:50 am
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A decade later, research confirms what I had sensed:
HTML https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyv7by/anti-feminist-gen-z-boys-who-hate-women
[quote]HOPE not hate found in their study that the young men who
feel that feminism has gone too far were also twice as likely to
think that jokes about race or religion were acceptable and
twice as likely to think that discrimination against white
people is as big a problem as discrimination against Black
people.[/quote]
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