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       Depersonalization Derealization disorder
       By: rp Date: July 4, 2025, 11:12 pm
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       I have been feeling like I have this for the past few months:
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       Has any one else felt this?
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       Re: Depersonalization Derealization disorder
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 4, 2025, 11:37 pm
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       Only Western medicine is inferior enough to classify this as a
       "disorder". Almost all ancient civilizations recognized this as
       a side-effect of spiritual cultivation.
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       [quote]Ancient Egyptian
       Egyptian teachings present the soul (ba) as having the ability
       to hover outside the physical body via the ka, or subtle
       body.[8]
       Amazon
       The yaskomo of the Waiwai is believed to have the ability to
       perform a soul flight that can serve several functions, such as
       healing; flying to the sky to consult cosmological beings (the
       Moon or the Brother of the Moon) to obtain a name for a newborn
       baby; flying to the cave of peccaries' mountains to ask the
       father of peccaries for abundance of game; or flying deep down
       into a river to seek the aid of other beings.[9]
       Inuit
       In some Inuit groups, individuals with special capabilities,
       known as angakkuq, are said to be able to travel to
       (mythological) remote places, and report their experiences and
       important matters back to their community. Those abilities would
       be unavailable to individuals with normal capabilities.[10]
       Among other things, an angakkuq was said to have the ability to
       stop bad hunting luck or heal a sick person.[11]
       Hindu
       Similar ideas such as the Liṅga Śarīra are found
       in ancient Hindu scriptures such as the
       Yogavashishta-Maharamayana of Valmiki.[8] Modern Indians who
       have vouched for astral projection include Paramahansa Yogananda
       who witnessed Swami Pranabananda doing a miracle through a
       possible astral projection.[12]
       The Indian spiritual teacher Meher Baba described one's use of
       astral projection:
       In the advancing stages leading to the beginning of the path,
       the aspirant becomes spiritually prepared for being entrusted
       with free use of the forces of the inner world of the astral
       bodies. He may then undertake astral journeys in his astral
       body, leaving the physical body in sleep or wakefulness. The
       astral journeys that are taken unconsciously are much less
       important than those undertaken with full consciousness and as a
       result of deliberate volition. This implies conscious use of the
       astral body. Conscious separation of the astral body from the
       outer vehicle of the gross body has its own value in making the
       soul feel its distinction from the gross body and in arriving at
       fuller control of the gross body. One can, at will, put on and
       take off the external gross body as if it were a cloak and use
       the astral body for experiencing the inner world of the astral
       and for undertaking journeys through it, if and when necessary.
       ... The ability to undertake astral journeys therefore involves
       considerable expansion of one's scope for experience. It brings
       opportunities for promoting one's own spiritual advancement,
       which begins with the involution of consciousness.[13]
       Astral projection is one of the siddhis ('magical powers')
       considered achievable by yoga practitioners through
       self-disciplined practice. In the epic Mahabharata, Drona leaves
       his physical body to see if his son is alive.
       Japanese
       In Japanese mythology, an ikiryō (生霊; also
       read as shōryō, seirei, or ikisudama) is a
       manifestation of the soul of a living person separately from
       their body.[14] Traditionally, if someone holds a sufficient
       grudge against another person, it is believed that a part or the
       whole of their soul can temporarily leave their body and appear
       before the target of their hate in order to curse or otherwise
       harm them, similar to an evil eye. Souls are also believed to
       leave a living body when the body is extremely sick or comatose;
       but such ikiryō are not malevolent.[15]
       Taoist
       Taoist alchemical practice involves creation of an energy body
       by breathing meditations, drawing energy into a 'pearl' that is
       then circulated.[16]
       Xiangzi ... with a drum as his pillow fell fast asleep, snoring
       and motionless. His primordial spirit, however, went straight
       into the banquet room and said, "My lords, here I am again."
       When Tuizhi walked with the officials to take a look, there
       really was a Taoist sleeping on the ground and snoring like
       thunder. Yet inside, in the side room, there was another Taoist
       beating a fisher drum and singing Taoist songs. The officials
       all said, "Although there are two different people, their faces
       and clothes are exactly alike. Clearly he is a divine immortal
       who can divide his body and appear in several places at once.
       ..." At that moment, the Taoist in the side room came walking
       out, and the Taoist sleeping on the ground woke up. The two
       merged into one.[17][/quote]
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       Re: Depersonalization Derealization disorder
       By: Aucontraire Date: August 12, 2025, 10:34 pm
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       [quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=3225.msg30560#msg30560
       date=1751690262]
       Only Western medicine is inferior enough to classify this as a
       "disorder". Almost all ancient civilizations recognized this as
       a side-effect of spiritual cultivation.
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       [/quote]
       Ok no. There's a difference between "spiritual cultivation" and
       being forced without your consent to lose touch emotionally
       because of traumatic stress.
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