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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 22, 2025, 10:14 pm
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> So you think some businesses sell products for less than what
it cost to produce them?
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In a socialist environment, producers—commonly referred to as
‘businesspeople’—are sometimes required to sell their products
at prices affordable to the surrounding community, even if the
selling price is below the cost of production. The state will
provide financial assistance to those who experience such
conditions. Alternatively, the state may implement a
coupon-based trading system, in which products are paid for
using coupons distributed to the local population. These coupons
are issued as a medium of exchange in quantities corresponding
to the amount of goods made available to that community.
Let me remind you that socialism entails the formation of an
organized political structure as a ‘workers’ state, in which
there is no commerce or business activity.
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Source :
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> It is not Germany that will become Bolshevist, but Bolshevism
that will become a kind of National Socialism. Moreover, there
is far more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from
it … The petty-bourgeois Social Democrats and the trade-union
bosses will never become National Socialists, but the Communists
will always be National Socialists.”
--- End Quote ---
Source: Adolf Hitler, as quoted in Hermann Rauschning, The Voice
of Destruction, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, New York (1940), p. 131
--- Quote ---
> “[W]hen I was a worker I busied myself with socialist or, if
you like, marxist [sic] literature.”
--- End Quote ---
—Adolf Hitler, 1931
...
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> “It is not to save capitalism that we fight in Russia … It is
for a revolution of our own. … If Europe were to become once
more the Europe of bankers, of fat corrupt bourgeoisies ... we
should prefer Communism to win and destroy everything. We would
rather have it all blow up than see this rottenness resplendent.
Europe fights in Russia because it [i.e., Fascist Europe] is
Socialist. ... what interests us most in the war is the
revolution to follow ... The war cannot end without the triumph
of Socialist revolution.”
--- End Quote ---
—Léon Degrelle,159 leading National Socialist figure, speaking
on behalf of the Nazi SS in occupied Paris, 1943
Source :
Appendix 2: Quotations on Nazi socialism and fascism
HTML https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nn-appendix2.pdf
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> Goebbels saw the similarities between the Nazis and the
Communists as clearly as the differences, which he said could be
boiled down to nationalism rather than internationalism, a
'Jewish conspiracy'. 'In the end,' he wrote in his diary later
that year, 'it would be better for us to fall with Bolshevism
than to live in eternal slavery under capitalism.'? He took the
'Socialism' in National Socialism very seriously and felt great
sympathy for the Russian people and their struggle, stating that
Lenin understood them better than any previous tsar. In an open
letter to 'My Friends the Left', he listed many areas of
agreement with the Communists in their 'common struggle for
freedom' against the hated bourgeoisie. 'You and I,' he
concluded, 'we fight each other but we are not really enemies.
In doing so we divide our forces, and we shall never achieve our
goal. Perhaps the last extreme will bring us together. Perhaps.
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Source :
Goebbels' diary in The Devil's Disciples: Hitler's Inner Circle
by Anthony Read, (2004) p. 142. - Diary excerpts
HTML https://archive.org/details/devilsdisciplesh00read/page/142/mode/2up?q=eternal+slavery
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> Many a bourgeois who condemns the worker’s striving for an
improvement in his economic situation with an outrage that is as
unwise as it is unjust would possibly suddenly think completely
differently if for only three weeks he would have had laid on
his shoulders the burden of the work demanded of the others.
Even today there are still countless bourgeois elements who most
indignantly reject a demand for a wage of ten marks a month, and
especially any sharp support of this, as a ‘Marxist crime’, but
display complete incomprehension when faced with a demand to
also limit the excessive profits of certain individuals. - Adolf
Hitler, 1 November 1930 [2][3][Page 206]
>
> On 24 February 1940 Hitler declared that the
bourgeois-capitalist world had already collapsed, its age
already long outdated: This collapse must take place everywhere
in some form or other and it will not fail to materialize
anywhere.’ [6] The German nation could not, said Hitler, ‘live
with the bourgeois social order at all’. [4] In a conversation
with the Hungarian ‘Leader of the Nation’ Szálasi, Hitler
declared on 4 December 1944 that the ‘bourgeois European world’
would break down ever further and all that was left was the
alternative ‘that either a sensible social order were created on
a national level, or that Bolshevism would take over’. [5] [Page
230]
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Source :
1. IB (Illustrierter Beobachter), 5th year set, issue 26 of 28
June 1930, p. 405
2. IB (Illustrierter Beobachter), 5th year set, issue 44 of 1
November 1930, p. 765
3. Hitler's National Socialism by Rainer Zitelmann Page 228, 206
and 230
HTML https://ia801207.us.archive.org/13/items/adolf-hitler-archive/Hitler%27s%20National%20Socialism%202022.pdf
4. Bouhler I/II, p. 162, speech on 24 February 1940
5. Ibid., p. 164
#Post#: 31748--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 22, 2025, 10:39 pm
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You are talking to yourself again.
#Post#: 31769--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 23, 2025, 11:24 pm
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> You are talking to yourself again.
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I am talking about how business activities operate within a
socialist environment. I am not speaking to myself. Let us pay
attention to what I have written. If you are a socialist, then
hate the rich, the middle class, and landlords as Hitler did.
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 24, 2025, 6:26 pm
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"hate the rich"
This is an attitude that the True Left is trying to eliminate
from leftism.
"as Hitler did"
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> The Hunger Plan outlined how entire urban populations of
conquered territories were to be starved to death,[k] thus
creating an agricultural surplus to feed Germany and urban space
for the German upper class.[97]
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 25, 2025, 3:56 am
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> [quote]"hate the rich"
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This is an attitude that the True Left is trying to eliminate
from leftism.
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> "as Hitler did"
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> The Hunger Plan outlined how entire urban populations of
conquered territories were to be starved to death,[k] thus
creating an agricultural surplus to feed Germany and urban space
for the German upper class.[97]
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[/quote]
From the 1930s until 1945, in numerous closed-door meetings that
has been recorded, Hitler openly articulated his hatred toward
the bourgeoisie and the middle class. He made it clear that they
would be eliminated should the outcome of the Second World War
be a victory for his regime. I've already shown evidence of
Hitler's written conversations regarding his views on the
concept of economic class. You can see my previous posts.
Throughout human existence, no wealth has ever been acquired
justly. All wealth is appropriated by business owners with
parasitic mentalities, who extract profit without participating
in the creation of the products or services produced by
workers—the proletariat. Wealth is also accumulated through the
exploitation of workers and slaves, with no regard for their
welfare or mental condition. A true Left will oppose capitalism
and commercial enterprise
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 25, 2025, 7:41 am
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"From the 1930s"
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Privatization_and_business_ties
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> In 1934, the Nazi regime introduced a new law on securities
trading that favored large companies, and in December of that
year it "limited the distribution of dividends to 6 percent, so
that profits would be reinvested into companies."[77] Generally,
Nazi government policies "favored big corporations and the
transformation of smaller corporations (juristische
Personengesellschaften or Körperschaften) to private firms
(Personalgesellschaften)."[77]
--- End Quote ---
"Throughout human existence, no wealth has ever been acquired
justly."
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 25, 2025, 9:38 am
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> "From the 1930s"
>
>
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Privatization_and_business_ties
>
> [quote]In 1934, the Nazi regime introduced a new law on
securities trading that favored large companies, and in December
of that year it "limited the distribution of dividends to 6
percent, so that profits would be reinvested into
companies."[77] Generally, Nazi government policies "favored big
corporations and the transformation of smaller corporations
(juristische Personengesellschaften or Körperschaften) to
private firms (Personalgesellschaften)."[77]
--- End Quote ---
Answer :
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> In view of the successes then achieved by the economic
policies of the government, Hitler’s reservations against state
planning of the economy gradually diminished. How important
Hitler considered the question of state-controlled planning of
the economy to be can be seen from the fact that in August 1936
he personally wrote a “Memorandum on the Four-Year Plan 1936.”
In this memorandum his admiration and fear of the Soviet system
of planned economy were expressed: “The German economy, however,
will learn to understand the new economic tasks, or it will
prove itself to be incapable of continuing to survive in these
modern times in which the Soviet state sets up a gigantic plan.”
>
> Hitler was convinced of the superiority of the Soviet planned
economy system over the capitalist economic system. This must be
regarded as an essential reason why he so vehemently demanded
and enforced the extension of state control of the economy in
Germany as well.
>
> Hitler attributed the success of National Socialist economic
policy primarily to state control of the economy. From 1940 at
the latest, Hitler increasingly became a proponent of the state
planned economy – partly because he was convinced of the
superiority of the Soviet Union and its economic system. In his
monologs to his inner circle (known as “table talks”) on July
27-28, 1941 Hitler said that “A sensible employment of the
powers of a nation can only be achieved with a planned economy
from above.”
>
> About two weeks later he said: “As far as the planning of the
economy is concerned, we are still very much at the beginning
and I imagine it will be something wonderfully nice to build up
an encompassing German and European economic order.” The
statement that as far as the planning of the economy was
concerned one was still at the very beginning is important
because it shows that Hitler was not thinking at all of a
reduction of state intervention – not even for the time after
the war – but, on the contrary, intended to expand the
instruments of state control of the economy even further.
>
> On July 5, 1942 Hitler expressed the opinion that if the
German economy had been able so far to deal with innumerable
problems “… this was also due in the end to the fact that the
direction of the economy had gradually become more controlled by
the state. Only thus had it been possible to enforce the overall
national objective against the interests of individual groups.
Even after the war we would not be able to renounce state
control of the economy, because then every interest group would
think exclusively of the fulfillment of its wishes.”
>
> Hitler’s view of the Soviet economic system apparently also
changed from skepticism to admiration. In a table talk on July
22, 1942, Hitler vehemently defended the Soviet economic system
and even the so-called “Stachanow System,” which it was
“exceedingly stupid” to ridicule: “One has to have unqualified
respect for Stalin. In his way, the guy is quite a genius! His
ideals such as Genghis Khan and so forth he knows very well, and
his economic planning is so all-encompassing that it is only
exceeded by our own Four-Year Plan. I have no doubts whatsoever
that there have been no unemployed in the USSR, as opposed to
capitalist countries such as the USA.”
>
> Hitler’s admiration for the Soviet system is also confirmed in
the notes of Wilhelm Scheidt, who—as adjutant to Hitler’s
“representative for military history” Walther Scherff and a
member of the Führer Headquarters group—had close contact with
Hitler and sometimes even took part in briefings. Scheidt writes
that Hitler underwent a “conversion to Bolshevism.” From
Hitler’s remarks, he says, the following reactions could be
derived: “Firstly, Hitler was enough of a materialist to be the
first to recognise the enormous armament achievements of the
USSR in the context of her strong, generous and all-encompassing
economic organisation.”
>
> Scheidt writes that in view of such impressions Hitler had
recognised and expressed “the inner relationship of his system
with the so heatedly opposed Bolshevism,” whereby he had to
admit that “this system of the enemy was developed far more
completely and straightforwardly. His enemy became his secret
example.” The “experience of Communist Russia,” particularly the
impression of the alleged superiority of the Soviet economic
system, had produced a strong reaction in Hitler and the circle
of his faithful: “The other economic systems appeared not to be
competitive in comparison.” About the impression of the rational
organisation of farming in the USSR and the “gigantic industrial
plants which gave eloquent testimony despite their destruction,”
Hitler, says Scheidt, had been “enthusiastic”.
>
> The German dictator admitted during a conversation with Benito
Mussolini on April 22, 1944, he had become convinced:
“Capitalism too had run its course, the nations were no longer
willing to stand for it. The victors to survive would be
Fascism, and National Socialism – maybe Bolshevism in the East.”
>
> Hitler himself was convinced, as he emphasized in his last
radio address on January, 30, 1945, “that the age of
unrestricted economic liberalism had outlived itself.” These
statements of Hitler’s in 1935 to 1945, but particularly from
the beginning of the 1940s on, show that he had become a
vehement critic of the system of free enterprise and a confirmed
adherent of the system of a planned, state-controlled economy.
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Source :
How Hitler Became a Believer in the State-Planned Economy
HTML https://fee.org/articles/how-hitler-became-a-believer-in-the-state-planned-economy/
--- Quote ---
> [quote]"Throughout human existence, no wealth has ever been
acquired justly."
--- End Quote ---
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Answer :
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And also :
Market failure occurs when the process of the exchange of goods
and services doesn't benefit everyone in society. In an ideal
market, individuals make choices that are good for all members,
not just for themselves; however, market failure occurs when
individuals make decisions that are self-serving and negative
for others.
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> For example, consider a factory that causes air pollution.
This may not bother the owners of the factory but it is harmful
to other members of society because the air they're breathing is
damaging to their health.
>
> Market failure can happen due to many reasons, such as when
people don't have enough information to make good decisions or
when a few people or companies have too much control over
prices. When these problems arise, the market doesn't fix
itself, and other solutions, like government intervention or
collective action are needed to restore balance.
>
> ...
>
> Market failure refers to the inefficient allocation of
resources in the free market that occurs when individuals acting
in rational self-interest generate sub-optimal economic
outcomes. These economic inefficiencies may occur in explicit
markets where goods and services are exchanged or in implicit
markets such as the exchange of favors in the legislative
process.
>
> The causes underlying market failures include negative
externalities, incomplete information, concentrated market
power, inefficiencies in production and allocation
--- End Quote ---
Source :
Market Failure: What It Is in Economics, Common Types, and
Causes By The Investopedia Team Updated May 10, 2025 Reviewed by
Robert C. Kelly Fact checked by Skylar Clarine
HTML https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketfailure.asp
The solution :
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> The New York Times, February 21, 1943
>
> NAZI MILITARY DEFEAT BRINGS 'TOTAL WAR' HOME
>
> German Upper and Middle Classes Fear Hitler Might Try to
Destroy Them
>
> By GEORGE AXELSSON By Telephone to The New York Times.
>
> The Junkers, the bourgeoisie and the small businessmen now
think that Hitler intends to sacrifice them on the altar of a
'total war effort,' in the Soviet style. They fear that this
operation will open the horizon of a permanent dictatorship of
the proletariat, also on the Stalinist model, in which these
classes will disappear without any visible chance of revival…
That Hitler might also want to save his war by transforming the
National Socialist State into a National Communist State at the
expense of the middle and upper classes seems to be the chief
worry in Berlin today.
--- End Quote ---
Source :
The New York Times: Sunday February 21, 1943. (2024). Retrieved
November 7, 2024, from Nytimes.com website:
HTML https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1943/02/21/88519072.html?pageNumber=76
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> He [Hitler] voiced his radical regrets: that he had not
exterminated the German nobility, that he had come to power 'too
easily', not unleashing a classical revolution 'to destroy
elites and classes',' that he had supported Franco in Spain
instead of the Communists, that he had failed to put himself at
the head of a movement for the liberation of the colonial
peoples, 'especially the Arabs', that he had not freed the
working class from 'the bourgeoisie of fossils'. Above all he
regretted his leniency, his lack of the admirable ruthlessness
Stalin had so consistendy showed and which invited one's
'unreserved respect' for him. One of his last recorded remarks,
on 27 April 1945, three days before he killed himself (whether
by bullet or poison is disputed)
--- End Quote ---
Source :
Modern Times: The World from the Twenties to the Nineties by
Paul Johnson Page 413
HTML https://archive.org/details/moderntimesworld00john_1/mode/2up?q=to+destroy+elites+and+classes
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: December 25, 2025, 4:13 pm
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"Answer :"
You are illiterate.
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> “Capitalism too had run its course, the nations were no longer
willing to stand for it. The victors to survive would be
Fascism, and National Socialism – maybe Bolshevism in the East.”
--- End Quote ---
This means Hitler acknowledged that Bolshevism was more
survivable, not that he preferred it. What Hitler is saying here
is that capitalism cannot be counted upon to defeat Bolshevism.
This is similar to how I keep saying that False Leftism will
never defeat rightism, and that the future will eventually be
either True Leftist or rightist. But no one here (I hope!)
thinks I prefer rightism.
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> For example, consider a factory that causes air pollution.
This may not bother the owners of the factory but it is harmful
to other members of society because the air they're breathing is
damaging to their health.
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Of course I would ban factories that cause air pollution,
because causing air pollution is initiated violence, because
people cannot choose to not breathe the polluted part of the air
and breathe only the unpolluted part of the air. But people can
choose to not visit the more expensive restaurant and visit only
the less expensive restaurant if that is what they want to do in
the original example. Therefore I would not ban the more
expensive restaurant. But you would. This makes you the
initiator of violence.
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: PotatoChip
Date: December 25, 2025, 5:42 pm
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--- Quote ---
> This is similar to how I keep saying that False Leftism will
never defeat rightism, and that the future will eventually be
either True Leftist or rightist. But no one here (I hope!)
thinks I prefer rightism.
--- End Quote ---
I've noticed this odd psychological quirk as well among some
people. When someone states things the way they are, some
automatically assume that this is what the person making the
claim prefers.
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Re: National Socialists were socialists
DIR By: antihellenistic
Date: December 25, 2025, 7:36 pm
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--- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
>
> "Answer :"
>
> You are illiterate.
>
> [quote]“Capitalism too had run its course, the nations were no
longer willing to stand for it. The victors to survive would be
Fascism, and National Socialism – maybe Bolshevism in the East.”
--- End Quote ---
This means Hitler acknowledged that Bolshevism was more
survivable, not that he preferred it. What Hitler is saying here
is that capitalism cannot be counted upon to defeat Bolshevism.
This is similar to how I keep saying that False Leftism will
never defeat rightism, and that the future will eventually be
either True Leftist or rightist. But no one here (I hope!)
thinks I prefer rightism.
--- Quote ---
> For example, consider a factory that causes air pollution.
This may not bother the owners of the factory but it is harmful
to other members of society because the air they're breathing is
damaging to their health.
--- End Quote ---
Of course I would ban factories that cause air pollution,
because causing air pollution is initiated violence, because
people cannot choose to not breathe the polluted part of the air
and breathe only the unpolluted part of the air. But people can
choose to not visit the more expensive restaurant and visit only
the less expensive restaurant if that is what they want to do in
the original example. Therefore I would not ban the more
expensive restaurant. But you would. This makes you the
initiator of violence.
[/quote]
Hitler was closer to Bolshevism than to capitalism, given his
hostile attitude toward the middle class and the bourgeoisie.
Documentary historical evidence of his views has been repeatedly
presented by me in posts made at earlier times.
--- Quote ---
> As Hans Mommsen has shown, the German opposition to Hitler,
which recruited almost exclusively from the upper class and here
primarily from the nobility, regarded National Socialism and
Bolshevism as being identical. Trott said, for example: 'What
presents itself to us as a dirty brown muck at home faces us
with Asian hardness and brutality in Moscow'?' Hassell feared
that 'socialism in the Hitlerian form' inevitably had the
objective of destroying the upper classes through an
Bolshevization And in a memorandum prepared by Lieutenant
Commander Liedig at the end of 1939, which illuminates the
opinions of the group around Oster in Intelligence and is also
typical of the political concepts of Beck and Halder, it says:
'A revolutionary dynamics of destruction of all the historic
links and all the cultural tie-ins which once made up the
dignity and fame of Europe is the only, and the total, secret of
his [Hitler's] statesmanship."
--- End Quote ---
Source :
1. The Nazi War Against Capitalism by Nevin Gussack Page 83
2. Hitler : The Policies of Seduction by Zitelmann, Rainer Page
232, 404 - 405
HTML https://archive.org/details/hitlerpoliciesof0000zite/page/232/mode/2up?q=not+be+able+to+renounce
--- Quote ---
> Thyssen reported after his defection from Nazi Germany in 1939
that: “Goering is an army man. He imagines that it is enough to
give orders for industry to carry them out. If the
industrialists declare that it is impossible, they are accused
of sabotage. Soon Germany will not be different than Bolshevik
Russia; the heads of enterprises who do not fulfill the
conditions which the Plan prescribes will be accused of treason
against the German people and shot.”
--- End Quote ---
Source :
1. The Nazi War Against Capitalism by Nevin Gussack Page 87
2. I Paid Hitler by Fritz Thyssen page 187
HTML https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.239690/page/n201/mode/2up?q=treason+against+the+German
--- Quote ---
> How Hitler Became a Believer in the State-Planned Economy by
Dr Rainer Zitelmann
>
> In fact, to a certain extent we can only speculate on Hitler’s
true position before 1933 because Hitler kept his plans strictly
secret, primarily in order not to offend the businessmen. In his
talks with Otto Wagener, the chief of the economic policy
section of the NSDAP, Hitler underlined the importance of
keeping his economic plans secret time and again. In September
1931, for example, he said:
>
> “The conclusion from this is what I have said all along, that
this idea is not to become a subject for propaganda, or even for
any sort of discussion, except within the innermost study group.
It can only be implemented in any case when we hold political
power in our hands.And even then we will have as opponents,
besides the Jews, all of private industry, particularly heavy
industry, as well as the medium and large landholders, and
naturally the banks.”
>
> How important Hitler considered the question of
state-controlled planning of the economy to be can be seen from
the fact that in August 1936 he personally wrote a “Memorandum
on the Four-Year Plan 1936.” In this memorandum his admiration
and fear of the Soviet system of planned economy were expressed:
“The German economy, however, will learn to understand the new
economic tasks, or it will prove itself to be incapable of
continuing to survive in these modern times in which the Soviet
state sets up a gigantic plan.”
>
> Hitler was convinced of the superiority of the Soviet planned
economy system over the capitalist economic system. This must be
regarded as an essential reason why he so vehemently demanded
and enforced the extension of state control of the economy in
Germany as well.
>
> Hitler attributed the success of National Socialist economic
policy primarily to state control of the economy. From 1940 at
the latest, Hitler increasingly became a proponent of the state
planned economy – partly because he was convinced of the
superiority of the Soviet Union and its economic system. In his
monologs to his inner circle (known as “table talks”) on July
27-28, 1941 Hitler said that “A sensible employment of the
powers of a nation can only be achieved with a planned economy
from above.”
>
> About two weeks later he said: “As far as the planning of the
economy is concerned, we are still very much at the beginning
and I imagine it will be something wonderfully nice to build up
an encompassing German and European economic order.” The
statement that as far as the planning of the economy was
concerned one was still at the very beginning is important
because it shows that Hitler was not thinking at all of a
reduction of state intervention – not even for the time after
the war – but, on the contrary, intended to expand the
instruments of state control of the economy even further.
>
> On July 5, 1942 Hitler expressed the opinion that if the
German economy had been able so far to deal with innumerable
problems “… this was also due in the end to the fact that the
direction of the economy had gradually become more controlled by
the state. Only thus had it been possible to enforce the overall
national objective against the interests of individual groups.
Even after the war we would not be able to renounce state
control of the economy, because then every interest group would
think exclusively of the fulfillment of its wishes.”
>
> Hitler’s view of the Soviet economic system apparently also
changed from skepticism to admiration. In a table talk on July
22, 1942, Hitler vehemently defended the Soviet economic system
and even the so-called “Stachanow System,” which it was
“exceedingly stupid” to ridicule: “One has to have unqualified
respect for Stalin. In his way, the guy is quite a genius! His
ideals such as Genghis Khan and so forth he knows very well, and
his economic planning is so all-encompassing that it is only
exceeded by our own Four-Year Plan. I have no doubts whatsoever
that there have been no unemployed in the USSR, as opposed to
capitalist countries such as the USA.”
>
> ...
>
> Hitler’s admiration for the Soviet system is also confirmed in
the notes of Wilhelm Scheidt, who—as adjutant to Hitler’s
“representative for military history” Walther Scherff and a
member of the Führer Headquarters group—had close contact with
Hitler and sometimes even took part in briefings. Scheidt writes
that Hitler underwent a “conversion to Bolshevism.” From
Hitler’s remarks, he says, the following reactions could be
derived: “Firstly, Hitler was enough of a materialist to be the
first to recognise the enormous armament achievements of the
USSR in the context of her strong, generous and all-encompassing
economic organisation.”
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Source :
How Hitler Became a Believer in the State-Planned Economy.
(2024, February 6). Foundation for Economic Education.
HTML https://fee.org/articles/how-hitler-became-a-believer-in-the-state-planned-economy/
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> “It is not Germany that will turn Bolshevist, but Bolshevism
that will become a sort of National Socialism,” Hitler replied.
“Besides, there is more that binds us to Bolshevism than
separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine,
revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia
except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made
allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former
Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit
bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never
make a National Socialist, but the Communist always will.”
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Source :
Hermann Rauschning. (1939). Hitler Speaks. Page 134-136.
HTML https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.505385/page/n133/mode/2up
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> What the Nazis have introduced in Germany is a form of
graduated Bolshevism, directing their first attack not against
the capitalist class as a whole, but against Jewish capitalists,
excoriated on racial rather than economic grounds. Yet once
Jewish bankers, industrialists, and business men have been
forced to surrender their property by methods no less drastic
and brutal than those employed by Russian Communists in 1917,
the Nazi government may train its guns on the Catholic Church,
which owns vast properties, especially in Austria — again
screening economic motives by denunciation of alleged religious
interference in politics. Nor is there reason to expect that the
Nazis will stop at this point, and that purely Aryan,
non-religious property can consider itself permanently insured
against expropriation.
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Source :
Europe in Retreat by Vera Micheles Dean Research Director
Foreign Policy Association Alfred A Knopf New York 1939 Page 207
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> Despite the views of many Western capitalist and conservative
quarters of opinion, the Nazis represented a war against
economic and political freedom in favor of a revolutionary form
of totalitarianism. Henry Wolfe observed that “To begin with,
Nazism is at war with the so-called capitalist world. There may
still be some befuddled conservatives in the democracies who
think they see in the Nazi movement a bulwark against communism.
They should understand that Nazism is as fanatically opposed to
the individualist capitalist society as Bolshevism; perhaps more
so, in view of recent nationalist drifts in the USSR.”
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1. The Nazi War Against Capitalism oleh Nevin Gussack, Page 129
2. Wolfe, Henry C. “German Plans for the Next War” American
Mercury August 1944 Page 181 (Page 55 in pdf format)
So, I am not illiterate
Moreover, the existence of high-value, expensive areas creates
an incentive for the affluent class to adopt a condescending
attitude toward those from underprivileged backgrounds, merely
because the latter possess weaker purchasing power to consume
more expensive products and services.
If you do not desire a war between classes, then stop using
Hitler and socialism as inspirations for your struggle; you are
merely deceiving many people with fabricated interpretations of
Hitler’s views
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