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       The Left-Right Dichotomy
       By: SirGalahad Date: January 6, 2025, 9:48 pm
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       @90sRetroFan Apparently the terms “left” and “right” in a
       political context, originate in the seating arrangements of the
       French National Assembly during the French Revolution. The
       pro-monarchy people were seated to the right, whereas the other
       camp was seated to the left. By that metric, wouldn’t we be
       “rightists”, since we’re anti-democratic and would therefore
       have principally opposed the anti-monarchy camp at that time? I
       obviously despise self-proclaimed rightists, but I’m just
       talking in terms of literal semantics
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       Re: The Left-Right Dichotomy
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 7, 2025, 3:39 am
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       "Apparently the terms “left” and “right” in a political context,
       originate in the seating arrangements of the French National
       Assembly during the French Revolution."
       This has been answered before. Our usage of left and right
       originates from:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path
       [quote]The terms have their origins in tantra: the right-hand
       path (RHP, or dakṣiṇācāra) applied to
       magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt
       social convention, while the left-hand path (LHP, or
       vāmācāra) adopts the opposite attitude, breaking
       taboos and abandoning set morality.
       ...
       The occultist Dion Fortune considered Abrahamic religions to be
       RHP.[5][/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamachara
       [quote]The converse term is dakṣiṇācāra
       "right-hand path", which is used to refer not only to orthodox
       sects but to modes of spirituality that engage in spiritual
       practices that accord with Vedic injunction and are generally
       agreeable to the status quo.[/quote]
       "The pro-monarchy people were seated to the right, whereas the
       other camp was seated to the left. By that metric, wouldn’t we
       be “rightists”, since we’re anti-democratic and would therefore
       have principally opposed the anti-monarchy camp at that time?"
       We are indeed anti-democratic, but we would not have been
       pro-monarchy in France in the way that the
       post-French-Revolution rightists were, since it would have been
       a Western monarchy, which we oppose:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/'royal'-family-hate-thread/
       The only monarchs we believe deserve to rule France immediately
       following the French Rebolution would have been an Islamic ruler
       (e.g. who could trace succession from an Andalusian dynasty),
       which the post-French-Revolution rightists surely would have
       endorsed. So no, we would not have been on the same side as the
       post-French-Revolution rightists.
       Pragmatically, if we around back then, we would have sided with
       whichever side was relatively more anti-colonialist, which in
       fact was the leftist side:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti#Haitian_Revolution_(1791%E2%80%931804)
       [quote]Maximilien de Robespierre and the Jacobins, endorsed
       abolition and extended it to all the French
       colonies.[72][/quote]
       even though they arrived at this conclusion via democratic
       reasoning which we disagree with. In contrast:
       [quote]Napoléon Bonaparte in 1802 sent an expedition of 20,000
       soldiers and as many sailors[82] under the command of his
       brother-in-law, Charles Leclerc, to reassert French
       control.[/quote]
       Nothing about pro-monarchism obliges us to support evil
       monarchs. Pro-monarchism merely means that after supporting the
       overthrow of an evil monarch, we advocate another monarch as the
       replacement rather than switching to a different form on
       government.
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