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Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: guest55
Date: August 22, 2021, 6:27 pm
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Mutabaruka Speaks, "I Find It Weird Black People Reject African
Religions"
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> In this reasoning, Mutabaruka questions the people of African
descent who reject African religious practices while accepting
European religious practices.
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mksAactzeRs
One word: Eurocentricism.
See also:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemetism
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_mythology
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_African_religions
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Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 23, 2021, 12:34 am
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"European religious practices"
To be fair, the Bible (which is what he talks about in the
video) is not exactly an example of this. In fact, our New Right
enemies are often seen advocating that "whites" should abandon
Christianity because the Bible is a "Middle Eastern book":
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouvelle_Droite
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> Philosopher Pierre-André Taguieff has distinguished five
ideological periods within the history of the ND: the rejection
of the Judeo-Christian heritage and the ethnocentric "religion
of human rights"; a critique of the liberal and socialist
"egalitarian utopias" in the 1970s; a praise of the
"Indo-European heritage" and paganism, perceived as the "true
religion" of the Europeans
> ...
> As Martin Lee explains,
>
> By rejecting Christianity as an alien ideology that was forced
upon the Indo-European peoples two millennia ago, French New
Rightists distinguished themselves from the so-called New Right
that emerged in the United States during the 1970s.
Ideologically, [the European new Right group] GRECE had little
in common with the American New Right, which [the European new
Right ideologue] de Benoist dismissed as a puritanical,
moralistic crusade that clung pathetically to Christianity as
the be-all and end-all of Western civilization.[92]
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I fear Mutabaruka might be falling into the same pattern of
thinking.
#Post#: 8673--------------------------------------------------
Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: September 9, 2021, 4:02 pm
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China keeps Westernizing:
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> China’s government banned effeminate men on TV and told
broadcasters Thursday to promote “revolutionary culture,”
broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and
society and enforce official morality.
>
> President Xi Jinping has called for a “national rejuvenation,”
with tighter Communist Party control of business, education,
culture and religion. Companies and the public are under
increasing pressure to align with its vision for a more powerful
China and healthier society.
> [...]
> Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and
other abnormal esthetics,” the TV regulator said, using an
insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or
literally, “girlie guns.”
>
> That reflects official concern that Chinese pop stars,
influenced by the sleek, girlish look of some South Korean and
Japanese singers and actors, are failing to encourage China’s
young men to be masculine enough.
>
> Broadcasters should avoid promoting “vulgar internet
celebrities” and admiration of wealth and celebrity, the
regulator said. Instead, programs should “vigorously promote
excellent Chinese traditional culture, revolutionary culture and
advanced socialist culture.”
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HTML https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-entertainment-business-religion-china-62dda0fc98601dd5afa3aa555a901b3f
I wonder to what extent this is obsession with masculinity is
driven by communist aesthetics, general Western aesthetics, and
non-Western traditionalist Confucian aesthetics?
Although this once again demonstrates how the False Left and
Right are both obsessed with masculinity. We have the Alt-Right
and the supposed wimpy "soyboy" Chinese communist party fighting
with who can be the most masculine.. Facepalm.
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Re: Re: Media decolonization
DIR By: guest55
Date: September 9, 2021, 9:06 pm
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--- Quote ---
> Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and
other abnormal esthetics,” the TV regulator said, using an
insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or
literally, “girlie guns.”
--- End Quote ---
I suspect this is what non-revolutionary types sound like when
they want to sound revolutionary?
HTML https://sd.keepcalms.com/i/one-for-all-all-for-one-4.png
So, apparently the Chinese and Western version of this
revolutionary saying would be: "One manly man for all, and all
manly men for manly man!".
Yeah, you're right, just doesn't have the same revolutionary
ring to it!
I'd take 10 of these:
HTML https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81e33626-9342-484d-9b92-98038da101b3_1000x1094.jpeg
10 of these:
HTML https://alchetron.com/cdn/eleonore-baur-49dd0250-045a-4021-9d7b-296be4cebd2-resize-750.jpg
And a platoon of these:
HTML https://i.pinimg.com/474x/da/69/64/da69647dcc5522716c88bb2524aff53d--horde-soviet-union.jpg
Over all the masculine men living in the U.S. currently any day
of the week and twice on Sundays, and I am willing to bet my
revolutionary team will be successful long before all the
masculine men in the U.S. even figure out where exactly their
elbow's and arsehole's even are! They haven't even managed to do
that yet FFS!!!
[img]
HTML https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTplvLoyPSHiNVOlCGp880TmVKXd2npLZvfLTAgrDAQq6mP9CPWgvmTDDU69mel7YXLKcc&usqp=CAU[/img]
Are the majority of human-beings just clowns or what!?
#Post#: 8687--------------------------------------------------
Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 10, 2021, 2:49 am
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"China keeps Westernizing:"
Yep.
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> sissy men and other abnormal esthetics
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Abnormal compared to what? Western standards? Is this idiot
unaware that it is deliberate common practice in
Counterculture-era storytelling for the hero to portrayed as
less masculine than the villain?
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhANDpBbH4
The CCP guy is apparently oblivious not only to
Counterculture-era movies but also to pre-modern literature:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jia_Baoyu
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> Jia Baoyu (traditional Chinese: 賈寶玉;
simplified Chinese: 贾宝玉; pinyin: Jiǎ
Bǎoyù; "Precious Jade", and his surname is a homophone with
"false" or "fictitious") is the principal character in the
classic 18th century Chinese novel Dream of the Red Chamber.
> ...
> Baoyu is portrayed as having little interest in learning the
Confucian classics, much to the despair of his father, Jia
Zheng. He would rather spend his time reading or writing poetry
and playing with his numerous female relations. He is
nonetheless compassionate and thoughtful (perhaps as a
juxtaposition onto the other male characters in the novel).
--- End Quote ---
"I wonder to what extent this is obsession with masculinity is
driven by communist aesthetics, general Western aesthetics, and
non-Western traditionalist Confucian aesthetics?"
In theory, communism should be opposed to masculinity, as a key
feature of masculinity is competitiveness, which would sooner or
later disrupt a planned economy. But most communists I have
encountered do not highlight this point. Instead, it is more
common for communists to adopt prole stereotypes of bourgeois
men being less masculine than themselves, for which they look
down on the bourgeois men.
Confucianism's main concern is maintaining patriarchy on the
macro-scale, but would discourage ostentation of masculinity by
individuals, in contrast to Western tradition. It is unclear
which mode of behaviour the CCP wants more of. To be honest, I
doubt they have even thought through the issue properly. Nothing
they say seems to have any deep ideological foundation. For
example:
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> programs should “vigorously promote excellent Chinese
traditional culture, revolutionary culture and advanced
socialist culture.”
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These are mutually exclusive. Promoting one would involve
condemning another. But the guy talking doesn't seem to care.
"Although this once again demonstrates how the False Left and
Right are both obsessed with masculinity."
I logically deduced that False Leftists valued masculinity the
moment they started promoting the term "toxic masculinity" to
describe manifestations of masculinity that they dislike, which
implies their belief that there also exists a non-toxic version
of masculinity.
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Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 24, 2021, 10:23 pm
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And then we have to deal with, wait for it.......... a
Eurocentrist Turanist (who claims to be a "BLM activist"):
HTML https://www.amren.com/commentary/2021/09/the-horsey-set-goes-woke/<br
/>(No, this is the opposite of wokeness! Wokeness would be
pointing out that only the racially inferior ride horses
recreationally!)
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> Dr. Anastasia Curwood is a black woman, a professor of African
American studies at the University of Kentucky, and a BLM
activist. Jess Clawson is a trans woman with a PhD in education
and history, an LBGQT+ activist, and publisher of a digital
magazine called The Plaid Horse.
>
> As equestrians (Dr. Curwood has been eventing for 30 years)
the two undoubtedly know that equine sports are already diverse.
Men and women compete in the same classes. There are no barriers
based on color or sexual identity. In recent years, equine
sports have included para-equestrians, who were previously
excluded because of disabilities. The only real barriers are the
costs of horse ownership and competition.
>
> Nevertheless, Drs. Curwood and Clawson pressured USEF into
adopting a Diversity and Inclusion Action Plan. Dr. Curwood, who
called herself an “external thought leader” in the Diversity,
Equity, Inclusion (DEI) discussions, announced some of the
plan’s requirements: “ . . . a directive to increased
representation of diverse equestrians in advertising and news
about USEF . . . a plan to support community riding centers, a
new membership category, and an equity audit for USEF rules and
regulations . . . .”
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HTML https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of-free-failing-clipart.png
Will someone who actually understands BLM please shoot her?
See also:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7426/#msg7426
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7937/#msg7937
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7945/#msg7945
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Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 25, 2021, 10:54 pm
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While I always think we have not decolonized enough, our enemies
think we have decolonized too much already!
HTML https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2021/10/you-cant-dance.html
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> You can’t dance. I know this because I’ve been to enough
wedding receptions, socials and bars with dance floors to notice
that North Americans don’t know how to dance. They hold their
partners and shuffle across the floor, but neither party would
know a dance step if it bit them on the ankle.
>
> This is actually quite a change because eighty years ago every
Tom, Dick and Harry could do the Fox Trot, the Waltz and the
Jitterbug, and plenty more knew the Rumba, the Tango and the
Conga, among others.
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Western dance is ugly:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6422/#msg6422
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> You can’t ride a horse. Oh, you can get up on one with some
help, but as soon as your Kentucky thoroughbred starts to trot,
you’re in real trouble. To manage this mid-speed step you need
to know how to post. Posting involves rising and falling in the
saddle in time with the horse’s step. It’s easier on the horse,
and much easier on you. Or it would be if you knew how to post,
which you don’t.
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Horse riding is cruel:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7937/#msg7937
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> Finally, you can’t dress yourself. When I say “dress,” I mean
dress like a gentleman. Here goes. First you put on your socks,
then your sock garters. What? Sock garters; you have a pair,
yes? Then boxer shorts. A T-shirt or vest. A shirt with eyelets
for cufflinks. Your trousers with pleats. Your suspenders. Your
cufflinks. This is business dress, not fancy dress. Your highly
polished Oxfords.
>
> Your tie, tied with a Windsor knot. Your suit vest. You can
put your gold pocket watch in the left lower pocket of the vest,
and the watch fob through an eyelet with one of the buttons. Now
the jacket. Keep one fresh handkerchief for the ladies in a
lower pocket and put another in your breast pocket, two points
up, or three. This only leaves your wallet, keys, fountain pen,
tie-clip (optional), coat, gloves and revolver (optional). Done.
>
> Except how many people have a pocket watch these days? Not
many. Cufflinks? Oxfords?
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Neckties are ridiculous:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg5817/#msg5817
Cuffs and pleats make ironing annoying:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg5597/#msg5597
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg8011/#msg8011
I'd never even heard of sock garters, but I thank our enemies
for informing me about yet another utterly unnecessary Western
invention:
HTML https://johnhenric.com/imgproxy/extend:1/resize:fit/width:1200/height:630/quality:70/plain/https://johnhenric.centracdn.net/client/dynamic/images/1239_1d17bcfa64-a01260-02-1-original.jpg
And of course I despise leather shoes.
As for pocket watches, did you know:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch
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> wristwatches were almost exclusively worn by women - men used
pocket watches up until the early-20th century.[23]
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so yet another example of Western obsession with maximizing
sexual dimorphism.....
#Post#: 9846--------------------------------------------------
Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 20, 2021, 11:51 pm
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Finally some people are getting a clue:
HTML https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/how-the-nuclear-family-structure-was-forced-upon-present-day-black-families/
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> On the Black Lives Matter website, the organization states:
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure
requirement by supporting each other as extended families and
‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially
our children, to the degree that mothers, parents and children
are comfortable.”
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This is what we need! Let me also take this opportunity to
repost what I posted here:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/autism/msg9054/#msg9054
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>
HTML https://commons.princeton.edu/mg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Household_and_Family_Structures.jpg
>
>
HTML https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-real-roots-of-the-nuclear-family
>
> [quote]Far from being weaker than an extended family clan,
Berger shows, the ordinary nuclear family was able to adapt
superbly to changing economic and political realities. In fact,
the family arrangement so common to England helps explain why it
and other nations of northwest Europe were the birthplace of the
Industrial Revolution, the launching ground for modern
affluence. The young nuclear family had to be flexible and
mobile as it searched for opportunity and property. Forced to
rely on their own ingenuity, its members also needed to plan for
the future and develop bourgeois habits of work and saving.
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[/quote]
(The above map also makes clear that Russia (often excluded from
"the West" by mainstream journalism) is in fact socially
Western.)
Back to the first link (as always I disagree with the use of the
terms "Africa" and "Black"):
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> I want to make something very clear: the most brutal social
structure that Western civilization has managed to force on the
present-day Black family—the African family—is the alienating
nuclear family structure. This structure not only eroded the
modes that Africans had long thrived on and carried out in their
tradition, it drove the production of social and environmental
ruin.
>
> Single family homes, suburban blight, gentrification, and
commuter and consumer cultures cast billions of tons of
climate-changing gases into the atmosphere each year. The
nuclear family is competition with one’s neighbours and family,
rather than communal living, space-sharing and strength in the
face of oppression: it is the erasure of our history; the
replication of white supremacy with Black silhouettes.
--- End Quote ---
One reason why I like watching Counterculture-era sitcoms is the
depiction of the often unusual but ultimately supportive
relationships between the characters that form the main
household, which was really a subtle rebellion against the
nuclear family and thus against Western civilization.
#Post#: 9847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: rp
Date: November 21, 2021, 5:37 am
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Do you agree then that extended families are better than nuclear
families, even though they themselves are not perfect?
#Post#: 9851--------------------------------------------------
Re: Social decolonization
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: November 21, 2021, 8:34 pm
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Yes. Under the extended family model, one house is sufficient
for the entire family cycling through generations. Under the
nuclear family model, on the other hand, offspring are required
to leave after reaching legal adulthood, which means they would
need new houses. And whereas expecting to live in the same house
generation after generation discourages an excessive number of
offspring per generation (or else they would run out of space),
expecting offspring to find somewhere new to live removes this
discouragement. Thus the nuclear family model is a model
designed to generate economic and even populational expansion.
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