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       Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 12:05 am
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       OLD CONTENT
       The following enemy article concisely outlines a phenomenon that
       should not be ignored if we are to avoid more such de facto
       colour-based caste systems in the future:
       vdare.com/articles/america-s-imported-caste-system
       [quote]After almost twenty generations of intermarriage between
       whites and Indians, Mexico has ended up with an almost wholly
       white elite, a vast mixed race (mestizo) working class, and at
       least 10 million extremely impoverished pure Indians who have
       never assimilated into Hispanic culture. And the ruling class is
       becoming ever whiter. How did this happen? And what does it
       portend for America's dream of colorblind equality?
       ...
       This will explain the mechanism through which Latin America's
       seemingly anti-racist freedom to marry across color lines
       produces such racially hierarchical societies - and what this
       implies for the U.S.
       In Mexico, white conquistadors interbred with Indian women to
       produce mestizos. Let's assume that in 1519 the Spaniards and
       the Mexican Indians were equal in IQ and other significantly
       heritable traits that aid economic success. I'll follow Jared
       Diamond (Guns, Germs & Steel: The Fates of Human Societies) in
       stipulating that the conquistadors won solely because by luck
       they had the guns, germs, and steel on their side, and that the
       only reason they had superior technology was because Spain was
       less isolated than Mexico.
       Now, imagine a conquistador and his Indian woman have two sons
       in the 1520s. These two mestizo brothers grow up and go out in
       the world to seek their fortunes. One is smarter, and he strikes
       it rich. The other wasn't so lucky in the genetic lottery, and
       he becomes poor. The rich son has a wide variety of potential
       wives to choose from. Like most men, and like almost all Mexican
       men, he is more attracted to blonde women, and thus marries one.
       (If you aren't familiar with the depths of Mexico's blonde
       obsession, try watching Spanish-language TV shows. Almost all
       the women on Mexican TV look like Finns.) His impoverished
       brother, in contrast, cannot attract a blonde wife. So he
       marries an Indian girl.
       Then, the brothers have children. On average, the smarter,
       richer brother's kids, who are 3/4 white, are smarter than their
       underprivileged 1/4 white cousins. They're smarter not because
       they are whiter, but because their father had more smartness
       genes than their uncle. This trend continues: in both families,
       the smartest, most energetic, and most ruthless sons marry the
       blondest wives, while the blondest daughters marry the husbands
       with the most Right Stuff. Repeat for another dozen and a half
       generations. By 2000, this pattern could lead to the most
       European-looking people being the most naturally formidable,
       even if they weren't when they arrived in 1519.
       Now, in Mexico every century or so, there is a massive upheaval
       like the Revolution of 1910. The white monopoly is fractured. Up
       through the cracks come the most talented mestizos and Indians.
       They start dynasties that persist to this day … but their
       grandsons and great-grandsons are notably whiter than they were,
       since the men of the family have been exploiting their social
       ascendancy to marry white women.
       ...
       a new class system based on color is also growing more visible
       in Southern California. Although the men of LA are less
       prejudiced about women's hair and skin color than the men of
       Mexico, in LA, like most places, the blonde remains queen. As
       Hugh Hefner has pointed out, for 85 years Hollywood has pulled
       in the most beautiful blondes from all over the world, which is
       why native-born California women are so attractive. For
       generations to come, the blondes will keep arriving from all
       over America, Canada, and Europe, and they'll continue to marry
       the hardest charging, most successful men. This will keep LA's
       hereditary overclass blonder than is expected by today's Tiger
       Woods-bedazzled conventional wisdom.
       Likewise, the Hispanic influx into California seems to be simply
       recreating the racial hierarchy of Latin America - rather like
       the freed slaves who went to Liberia set up an imitation
       Southern slave-owning society there. America's leading Latino
       politicians tend to marry Anglos (for example, the last two
       Latino Cabinet officers, the head of the Hispanic Congressional
       Caucus, and the last two presidents of the Mexican-American
       Legal Defense and Education Fund [MALDEF]). Thus, the
       Mexican-American elite is likely to become even whiter over the
       generations.[/quote]
       I have no major academic disagreement with this description of
       the problem. The question is: how do we solve this problem?
       ---
       Make "whiteness" a banned identity (similar to how hitler banned
       jewishness). Sterilize all those who continue to identify as
       "white". There is simply no other option.
       ---
       "Sterilize all those who continue to identify as "white"."
       This proposal does not address the issue described above.
       [quote]The rich son has a wide variety of potential wives to
       choose from. Like most men, and like almost all Mexican men, he
       is more attracted to blonde women, and thus marries one.[/quote]
       Even if the blonde woman does not self-identify as "white", the
       rich man will still choose her to marry. The issue here is not
       identitarianism, but standards of aesthetics left behind by
       colonialism:
       [quote](If you aren't familiar with the depths of Mexico's
       blonde obsession, try watching Spanish-language TV shows. Almost
       all the women on Mexican TV look like Finns.)[/quote]
       in conjunction with marital pecking order:
       [quote]His impoverished brother, in contrast, cannot attract a
       blonde wife.[/quote]
       The first question which I would ask is: does the poor brother
       actually have the same tastes as the rich brother? We do not
       know for sure that he does. Sailer (being a rightist) presumes
       he does, but might there be a positive correlation between
       aggressive personality (as described as possessed by the rich
       brother) and blonde obsession? If there is, and hence if the
       poor brother (who would tend to have a less aggressive
       personality) would not prefer a blonde wife even if he could
       attract one, then we are dealing with a simpler problem. But if
       the poor brother is no less blonde-obsessed than the rich
       brother (which could well be the case), then the problem is
       primarily one of discarding colonial-influenced aesthetics.
       The main point of the article is that the (False Left) notion of
       interethnic reproduction being by itself sufficient to end
       Eurocentrism is a delusion. Even if everyone becomes ancestrally
       multiethnic, so long as attitudes remain unchanged, there will
       still be phenotypical sorting as described by the article which
       will ultimately reinforce the Eurocentric narrative.
       And look at this ****:
       rollingout.com/2019/02/11/say-what-nfl-star-and-white-wife-toast
       -to-more-light-skinned-babies-video/
       [quote]The couple and their friends — a table full of Black men
       and their White girlfriends — made a toast to “more
       light-skinned kids.”
       They were so proud of their toast that they repeated
       “light-skinned kids” three times.[/quote]
       I clicked on another article on the same story and found this:
       www.businessinsider.co.za/jahleel-addae-lindsey-nelson-light-ski
       nned-kids-backlash-2019-2
       [quote]The video, which was originally posted on Nelson's
       Instagram page, showed the couple with friends, as well as their
       1-year-old son, Zion.[/quote]
       I swear you cannot make this **** up.....
       ---
       Women are no better than men when it comes to reproductive
       Eurocentrism:
  HTML https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-XY351_fallba_4U_20180321130046.png
       What will it take for former colonized people to get back some
       pride FFS?!
       ---
       More of the same:
       www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/08/dark-skinned-black-
       girls-dont-get-married
       [quote]Black women in the US marry less than others - and the
       numbers are even lower for darker skinned black women. Is
       colorism – favoring lighter skin – to blame?
       Colorism – the prejudice based on skin tone – has stunted the
       romantic lives of millions of dark-skinned black women,
       including me. We are not as valued as our lighter-skinned
       counterparts when seeking romantic partners, our dating pool
       constricted because of something as arbitrary as shoe size.
       Like other systems of racial inequality, American colorism was
       born out of slavery. As slave masters **** enslaved women, their
       lighter-skinned illegitimate offspring were given preferential
       treatment over their darker counterparts, often working in the
       house as opposed to the fields. This order has since been
       perpetuated by systemic racism and internalized by black people.
       ...
       Dark skin still not only comes with the expectation of lower
       class but lessened beauty, not to mention uncleanliness, lesser
       intelligence and a diminished attractiveness. Meanwhile,
       everywhere we look, women like me see successful black men
       coupled with fair-skinned female partners who pass the paper bag
       test – a remnant of the Reconstruction era, where the only black
       people worthy of attention had to be lighter than a paper bag.
       This “test” was even instituted in places such as historically
       black colleges and universities as an informal part of the
       admissions process.
       Today, this gradation discrimination remains. “It’s typical to
       see light-skinned black women as representing beauty in the
       black community and therefore being highly desirable for
       high-status spouses,” says Dr Margaret Hunter, who teaches
       sociology at Oakland’s Mills College and has studied the
       relationship between marriage and colorism for over two decades.
       Hunter sums it up like this: “Black women in general marry less
       than other races but darker-skinned black women marry men of
       lower social status than the lightest-skinned black women.”
       ...
       I talk to Elizabeth, my former sophomore-year roommate, who is
       now in her third year of law school. I ask if a partner has said
       anything rude to her because of her skin tone. She names a man I
       know, to my dismay. “There was just a comment that he made one
       time. [He said] ‘I want a white family’.”[/quote]
       Yet rightists claim that "whites" are the ones who do not have
       enough self-esteem.....
       ---
       Someone who gets it:
       www.theodysseyonline.com/mejorando-la-raza-how-latino-culture-pe
       rpetuates-the-notion-that-white-is-better
       [quote]Growing up in an Latino family, I was told by relatives
       that I have to 'mejorar la raza'. It means I have to better my
       race.
       ...
       To many Latino families, bettering our race means marrying and
       baring the children of Caucasian Americans or any type of white.
       Anything, but please, not another ñaño (Ecuadorean male) or not
       someone too dark. It was normal, and normal for many of us.
       This expression says so much more than it actually means. It's a
       form of racism, and it's degrading to ourselves and our culture.
       We're purposefully trying to forget where our roots lie. I
       wanted to erase them because I didn't want to accept who I
       really was because I was ashamed.
       My ancestors are the native or indigenous people of Ecuador. By
       buying into this mentality, I would be disregarding the hard
       labor and mental battle everyone who came before me had to go
       through. They experienced a form of oppression themselves.
       People were looked down upon for living in the countryside and
       dressing in traditional clothing. They were called stupid and
       uneducated. They were 'under-developed'.
       It might be an exaggeration for some, but I think that's the
       reality of what 'mejorando la raza' means.
       ...
       It's time we stop perpetuating the notion that in order to
       succeed or appear successful is to be with someone who's white.
       The Latino culture needs to stop treating white so highly and
       using color to put others on pedestals.
       We deserve respect too and if we can't give it to ourselves, how
       can anyone else?
       We, the children of the sun, have been kissed and coated with
       warmth. Some a little more, some a little less. Nevertheless, we
       are united one way or another.
       Better yourself by learning about the history of your roots, who
       oppressed you and why.[/quote]
       (Not coincidentally, the author is also vegan:
       www.theodysseyonline.com/what-does-it-mean-to-be-vegan )
       ---
       I covered this in the other thread, but for those who aren’t
       aware, there has been a trend of BS Gentiles marrying “Asian”
       women on the basis that they are more traditional. The women
       also seek “White” men as a status boost and as a way to more
       easily assimilate into western society.
       One example is John Derbyshire (Gentile) who bragged about
       teaching his kids to identify as “White” and telling his kids to
       be fearful of “black” people.
       theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-
       african-americans
       As such, many half Asians with WN fathers grow up with low self
       esteem, knowing that their own fathers are racist against them.
       Here is an example, where a son of a BS Gentile and “Asian”
       woman describes his experiences with his parents:
       halfasian.org/concrete-examples-of-what-my-racist-white-father-s
       aid-and-did-to-our-family-and-my-chinese-family-contributed-to-w
       ith-their-own-brand-of-racism/
       [quote]-My father told me to “stop screaming at him like a black
       man from New York”
       -My mother, on the other hand, hated blacks and said that most
       black people had AIDS and referred to them as “hok wai” (or
       black ghost in Cantonese).[/quote]
       Reading this made my blood boil. Imagine for a second being the
       child in this situation, living with these people and believing
       they are “good” solely because you are economically dependent on
       them. Gentiles such as the father in question and Derbyshire
       should suffer a gruesome death, as a normal death would be too
       kind, which is only possible in a National Socialist State.
       The False Left will probably dismiss such childhood trauma and
       tell one to “grow up”, while promoting the false narrative that
       interethnic marriage ends racism (impossible if the parents are
       rightists). Thoughts?
       ---
       "John Derbyshire"
       Yes, Derbyshire is the one behind the extremely dangerous (worse
       than Duginism) "Arctic Alliance" proposition.
       "many half Asians with WN fathers grow up with low self esteem,
       knowing that their own fathers are racist against them."
       But is the low self-esteem really because of their fathers (or
       their mothers, who after all chose their fathers!), or is it
       because they themselves actually (at least subconsciously) agree
       with their parents' assessment? I suspect the latter. If they
       themselves internally did not believe in "white" superiority,
       they would not mind not being "white". They would simply despise
       their parents for believing in something so absurdly stupid. The
       only reason for them to have low self-esteem, however, is if
       they themselves wish they could have been "white". When both
       parents are of bloodlines that believe in "white" superiority,
       it is likely that the offspring will have inherited by blood an
       inclination towards the same belief. Their frustration comes
       from the fact that their parents' very actions, motivated by
       this belief, are precisely what has ensured they themselves
       cannot be what they (directed by the same belief) want to be.
       The author admits this is the case for most "hapas":
       halfasian.org/2019/05/18/half-asian-man-who-looks-100-asian-with
       -a-caucasian-father-and-asian-mother-recites-a-spoken-word-poem-
       in-which-he-refers-to-himself-as-yellow-****-on-white-snow-more-
       failure-parenting-from-wh/
       [quote]Many half Asians, as a result, become severely self
       hating (believing that their Asian blood is inferior or
       abnormal), severely arrogant despite having little actual
       accomplishments, very obnoxious and gimmicky, or are openly
       white supremacist (“I’m not Asian, I’m white”) in order to live
       up to their parents’ expectations, and their own self-hatred.
       Many half-Asians flee to Asia where they can pimp out their
       half-whiteness to Asians and Asian women, despite being utter
       failures in the west. Other Half Asians remain long-standing,
       conservative, 30+ year old virgin failures with women who seek
       an outlet for their insecurity by latching onto white forms of
       masculinity – such as alt-right causes, MGTOW, MRA, white
       supremacy, and bashing blacks.[/quote]
       Here is another exhibit:
       www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/f35/sometimes-i-feel-inferior
       -to-white-people-self-identity-crisis-1508530/
       [quote]Even though I am half white myself with European descent.
       I still can't help but feel like the other half of my race is
       relatively inferior if you compare them to all those with
       European descent have done and do currently. Let's just say that
       my other half is Somewhere from Asia. When I am around whites
       typically I feel like I am not as good as them simply because of
       race. I feel like I am naturally the lesser person and since I
       am not white I have lost the genetic lottery and am cursed.
       . However, as half Asian I feel inferior to White people even
       though I am better than a lot of White people in many different
       aspects. When I look at other people of my Asian descent, I feel
       afraid, ashamed and depressed with the realization that I am
       from their origin. I begin to doubt my intellect, my abilities
       and worth. I like white people because almost all modern
       innovations, inventions, science has been discovered by White
       Europeans and I prefer their looks as well. They have a variety
       of light hair and eye colors and sometimes this makes me feel a
       bit jealous and inferior. As some of you may already know I
       prefer this color in women. This is all probably just irrational
       thinking but it is a legitimate problem for me and it is ruining
       my life.[/quote]
       See what I mean?
       "false narrative that interethnic marriage ends racism
       (impossible if the parents are rightists). Thoughts?"
       The author claims that "AMWF" marriage is preferable to "WMAF"
       marriage, which I would argue indicates that what I wrote above
       also applies to the author himself. His basic argument is that
       "white" males who marry "non-white" females tend to be "losers"
       who settle for a "non-white" female due to failure to attract a
       "white" female (which he suspects (and I agree) would have been
       their true first choice), whereas "non-white" males who marry
       "white" females tend to be "winners" who are hence not settling
       for a second choice but succeeding in attaining their first
       choice. But if so, then the latter phenomenon is precisely the
       phenomenon covered in the first post of this topic! What does it
       say about these "winner" males that, when they can attract
       females of all ethnicities, tend to choose "white" females?
       Answer: they are Eurocentrists! This is the real, long-term
       problem.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LAjy0yB6XE
       I do not care about which way round the genders are in an
       interethnic ("heterosexual") marriage. What I care about is
       getting rid of the Eurocentric mentality that "whites" (male and
       female) automatically have higher value as spouses. The only
       reason the "loser" "white" male who cannot get a "white" wife
       can nevertheless (quite easily) get a "non-white" wife is
       because the Eurocentric "non-white" female is giving him extra
       points just for being "white". This, and the "winner"
       "non-white" male tending to prefer a "white" wife (ie. giving
       extra points to the "white" female just for being "white") when
       given a choice, are clearly two manifestations of the same
       sickness. (However, this author only perceives the former as
       sickness, while the latter he seems to speak of almost as a
       cure! Why? We all know why.)
       The true cure is ending Eurocentrism.
       #Post#: 2344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 12:20 am
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       OLD CONTENT contd.
       I see. So rather than solve the problem this will merely
       reinforce the WN view that “races shouldn’t breed with each
       other”. The real reason why “whites” are valued is because of
       Eurocentric bias. However, the WNs will not admit to this as the
       bias works in their favor! They like to pride themselves for
       being “conquerors” of “non white” women, while viewing “non
       white” men as sexual competitors.
       “However, this author only perceives the former as sickness,
       while the latter he seems to speak of almost as a cure! Why? We
       all know why.”
       Usually it comes back to some foppish argument about matrilineal
       DNA, but is ultimately Eurocentric as they only value the AMWF
       couple because the offspring are more “white” looking.
       ---
       Hapas who feel like crap because they're only half white deserve
       to!
       ---
       Looking at this again:
       [quote]I like white people because almost all modern
       innovations, inventions, science has been discovered by White
       Europeans and I prefer their looks as well.[/quote]
       we here already address both issues. By opposing
       complexification, we destroy the (Western) presumption of
       innovation as automatically positive, and indeed we demonstrate
       that modernization has overall been colossally negative:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-a-health-hazard/
       By valuing neoteny (and hence low sexual dimorphism), we derive
       an aesthetic standard actually rather unfavourable to "whites"
       (with rare exceptions, of course). In particular, my principle
       of judging male and female beauty using identical criteria
       wreaks instant havoc on Eurocentrism (which totally depends on
       judging male and female beauty using contrary criteria). So in
       theory, we have it all covered.
       But does it work? I am not too optimistic. Does anyone here
       remember that fiasco time back on the old blog when I had to
       explicitly remind longtime commenters that "small penis" should
       be a compliment, not an insult?
       aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/its-not-that-difficult/comment
       -page-3/#comment-172939
       You'd have thought this was something they could have figured
       out by themselves? But they did not. So I can't help but wonder,
       how much else of what I say (or, more pertinently, what I don't
       say because I presume everyone already understands it) is not
       obvious at all to most people, even on our own side?
       It was a shock to me the first time I encountered women who keep
       as thin as possible themselves yet do not want men to be
       similarly thin, for example. Or men who are turned off by body
       hair in women yet who are proud of their own body hair. And so
       on. (Of course, all of this pales in comparison with vegan women
       who are turned off by vegan men, but let's not even get started
       with that.....) How much more of this is going on (with regard
       to other traits) that I haven't yet encountered, and do I really
       have to explain one trait at a time why it is wrong?
       ---
       "(Of course, all of this pales in comparison with vegan women
       who are turned off by vegan men, but let's not even get started
       with that.....)"
       Rightists often brag about their ability to easily seduce
       "leftist" women, including vegans. This illustrates the
       difference between False Leftism and True Leftism.
       ---
       Typically HBD sites that discuss "aesthetics" such as
       lookism.net explicitly state their preference for high
       dimorphism. For example, they will rate a female model
       positively for having "high E (estrogen)" hormonal profiles, but
       then rate a male model negatively for having "low T
       (testosterone)" hormonal profiles! This was when I realized that
       such standards are not really aesthetics at all, but merely
       evaluation based on sexual (i.e. reproductive) criteria.
       This is in line with the pro natalist ideologues of the alt
       right who also only value aesthetic traits insofar as they are
       conducive to reproduction (e.g. youth in females, but age in
       males).
       ---
       "their preference for high dimorphism"
       It wouldn't be too bad if they made it clear it was solely their
       preference and nothing more. What's most annoying is when they
       make it sound like everyone is "biologically hard-wired" to
       value high sexual dimorphism, and anyone who claims not to value
       it is lying. And nothing we can say can convince them that we
       are sincere. This comes from their half-baked grasp of evolution
       that fallaciously equates heritable traits not favoured by
       natural selection with such heritable traits being nonexistent
       in the first place.
       I agree that - all other factors being equal - those who value
       high sexual dimorphism will be more successful under natural
       selection than those who value low sexual dimorphism. But that
       does not mean that individuals belonging to the latter group do
       not exist! Even heritable traits that fail to be
       intergenerationally transmitted via reproduction do not vanish
       permanently, because they can recur via solar-induced mutation
       of bloodlines that formerly did not possess them. (Or if you
       want to be theological about it, the Sun God infuses nobility
       into our DNA, and then Yahweh eliminates that DNA because it
       does not conform to his creation.)
       "such standards are not really aesthetics at all"
       Another thing I despise is the "1-10" rating system (basically a
       simplified version of percentiles). This is not what I consider
       to be aesthetics either, since it measures people merely
       relative to one another, instead of compared to an archetype.
       Genuine aesthetics should be about: 1) distance of real-life
       individuals from the nearest archetype; 2) the ranking of the
       archetypes. We should probably demonstrate this sometime.
       ---
       False Leftists also stereotype "non white" ethnicities such as
       "Asians" as being more neotenous and thus aesthetically
       inferior.
       ---
       This is the same pattern we keep seeing: False Leftists are
       aesthetically Westerners. The only thing we are not yet sure of
       is how much of this is due to conditioning and how much due to
       biology. But we are here to at least undo as much of the
       conditioning as possible, so that by the end of it we might be
       able to say that whatever remains is probably biological.
       "Rightists often brag about their ability to easily seduce
       "leftist" women, including vegans. This illustrates the
       difference between False Leftism and True Leftism."
       Yes, if you mean only False Leftist women would be seducible by
       rightist men:
       archive.is/bzZN5
       This problem will not be solved until masculinity itself is
       considered a turn-off by women. While culturally promoting low
       sexual dimorphism may help to an extent, full success will
       require state control over reproduction (wherein only women who
       spontaneously prefer low sexual dimorphism men would be allowed
       to reproduce), in order to undo all the millenia of natural
       selection involving high sexual dimorphism men (esp. Turanians)
       raping women and the fraction of women who did not commit
       suicide in order to avoid impregnation (surely including those
       who found their rapists attractive!) being the fraction which
       reproduced.
       ---
       A first-person Eurocentrism experiment:
       boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/54135922/i-pretended-to-be-a-white-g
       uy-on-tinder-and-this
       (read the whole thing)
       [quote]I Pretended To Be A White Guy On Tinder And This Is How
       Kenyan Ladies Threw Themselves At Me
       As a fake white guy, almost every swipe I made to the right
       ended up being a match. I was barraged with options. All girls
       wanted to talk to me. I had so many matches I didn't even know
       who to pay attention to. My phone was buzzing with so many
       messages, it was unbelievable. As an African guy, consider
       yourself lucky if you get more than five matches in a week, yet
       as a mzungu, I had over 30 matches in a few hours. Some even
       swiped right on me first. And these were super fine ghels.
       Since it was an experiment, I proceeded to chat with them in the
       most aggressive way possible. I got extremely naughty and
       composed explicit flirt messages that would normally be met with
       insults or blue ticks if they came from a local black mouth like
       mine and yours. But guess what? These Kenyan girls were very
       warm and accommodating. Nearly all of them were ready to part
       thighs for me within the first few minutes of chatting.
       The results of my little experiment are worth examining in
       detail for the clarity they provide to men who rely on the local
       dating marketplace as the fulcrum of their mate selection
       strategy.[/quote]
       The worst part is that, on average, even those who don't
       consciously think of themselves as being Eurocentric are
       subconsciously (and hence in practice) just as Eurocentric as
       those who admit it. As such, how do we even go about finding the
       authentic non-Eurocentric minority?
       (Can we even be sure that we have no Eurocentrism among the
       members of this forum?? If anyone wants to come out of the
       closet, please feel free.)
       ---
       Here we go again:
       www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/this-sperm-counts/238853
       [quote]The Indian obsession with 'white skin' begins early these
       days. Now, childless Indian couples aspiring for offspring have
       a large roster of demands: fairer skin, light hair and
       blue/green eyes. And they're thronging sperm banks and fertility
       centres across the country looking for "firangi" donors to
       ensure they get it. So, foreigners visiting India or residing
       here are being tapped for gametes—to beget, by proxy, children
       with lighter skin pigment and eye tone. "We get about 10-15
       requests every day for fair babies," says Dr Anoop Gupta of the
       Delhi In-Vitro Fertilisation (IVF) Fertility Research Centre.
       "They include almost all couples from South India and a large
       number of nris ."
       The sperm bank at Gupta's centre too has a large number of
       foreign donors. "We encourage foreign donors," he says. "Most of
       them are exchange students studying medicine and engineering who
       are commercial donors back in their countries and donate here
       regularly." Male donors get anywhere up to Rs 2,000; women who
       donate their eggs get between Rs 30,000 and Rs 45,000.
       ...
       Dr Naina Patel of the Akanksha IVF centre in Anand, Gujarat,
       points to an instance where a Christian couple from Rajasthan
       came to her asking for a fair baby with blue eyes. "The religion
       of the donor did not matter to them—they just wanted a foreign
       donor."Dr Naina Patel of the Akanksha IVF centre in Anand,
       Gujarat, points to an instance where a Christian couple from
       Rajasthan came to her asking for a fair baby with blue eyes.
       "The religion of the donor did not matter to them—they just
       wanted a foreign donor."[/quote]
       We all know what "foreign" is a code-word for.
       [quote]"In India, the government sees sperm as a commodity,"
       says Dilip Patil of Cryos International, a Denmark-based sperm
       bank which opened up a branch in Mumbai last month. "Last year,
       we imported sperm from Denmark and paid custom duty on
       it."[/quote]
       Do you think they could do the same with sperm from Kenya? Why
       not? We all know why not.
       [quote]"It will also pose a problem for couples who do not want
       to tell their child that he or she was born out of this
       procedure but whose appearance is going to be a sure giveaway,"
       says Patil. The Pals are facing that problem already. Every time
       they're questioned about the distinct difference in the colour
       of their skin and that of their daughter, they're quick to reply
       that their ancestors were very fair.[/quote]
       Ugh..... Every time I thought I must have already seen the limit
       of low self-esteem in "non-whites", I come across an even worse
       story.....
       I am sure there must be some individuals from formerly colonized
       peoples who have (or at least want to have) higher self-esteem,
       but where are they? All of them need to be on this forum FFS!
       #Post#: 2345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 12:34 am
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       OLD CONTENT contd.
       What Eurocentrism leads to:
       www.sunnewsonline.com/i-slept-with-1400-girls-impregnated-600-in
       -6-african-countries-french-tourists-recounts/
       [quote]Many Africans see all westerners as very wealthy people
       who can change their lives. They easily give in to all their
       requests and desires and are taken advantage of.
       ...
       “Good morning Africa 24, I have a confession to make about the
       havoc I have wreaked in six African countries, including
       Cameroon, Togo, Cote D’Ivoire, Nigeria, Ghana and Guinea. I am
       not proud of what I have done. These were unfortunate
       experiences.
       ...
       “I began having sex with girls every day. Sometimes, I would
       sleep with three girls at the same time. It was a marvelous
       experience.
       “I worried less about my health. All I wanted was to have fun.
       My friends and I were in a night club in the town every day
       looking for girls.
       “One time, I met a girl and gave her money, and she told me to
       be engaged to her. She was ready to get pregnant for me. I don’t
       know whether it was the money they liked or the fact that I was
       from France that attracted them.[/quote]
       Neither. Get a rich "black" French guy to try the same thing and
       see if he succeeds.
       [quote]“I spent three months in Ivory Coast, spent 60, 000 euros
       and slept with more than 80 girls.
       “After leaving Ivory Coast, I went to Togo where I slept with
       over 100 girls and spent 40, 000 euros.
       “I spent three months in Togo and went to Nigeria.
       “Nigeria was where I got more girls. I did not speak English,
       and it seems Nigerian girls love foreigners.[/quote]
       That convenient code-word again: "foreigners". Togolese are
       foreigners to Nigeria too. Do Nigerian girls love Togolese? No?
       How come? (We all know the answer.)
       [quote]“I rented a furnished apartment in Nigeria and I was in
       Lagos for six months. I spent 100,000 euros and slept with 230
       girls. Nigeria was the place I appreciated the most. Girls were
       always available and easy to deceive.
       “From Nigeria, I went to Ghana, and then Cameroon and ended what
       I describe as my sex tour in Guinea.
       “I was in those three countries for more than a year and spent
       over 200, 000 euros. If I told you I slept with more than 700
       girls in those three countries, you won’t believe me, but it was
       unbelievable!
       “In all, I slept with more than 1,400 girls in six different
       African countries. I have all their pictures in my photo album,
       including the dates we met, their names and phone numbers. I
       opened a Facebook account only for them.
       “Since I returned to France, I have had more than 600 of them
       who told me they got pregnant for me. Some committed abortion,
       and I do not know exactly how many finally gave birth.
       “Africa is a marvelous continent. Girls are beautiful and very
       sexy. All they want is a man who has money, and the worst is
       when he’s white.
       “I realised that they love having mixed race babies. I do not
       know why, but many would do anything to get pregnant for you.
       100 euros is plenty of money in Africa.
       ...
       “I know many of you would judge me, but I do not care about your
       insults. I know that what I did is not good, but I enjoyed my
       stay in Africa, and I am planning another trip to Senegal, Mali,
       Gabon, Benin, Niger and Democratic Republic of Congo.[/quote]
       And this is going to keep happening until formerly colonized
       peoples regain self-esteem, which is what we are here to help
       with.
       ---
       Another statement of the problem:
       hiplatina.com/latin-americas-obsession-with-whiteness/
       [quote]How Latin America’s Obsession With Whiteness Is Hurting
       Us
       If you’re Latinx person, chances are you grew up hearing the
       very racially-charged phrase “mejorar la raza.” The term
       literally translates to “better the race” which is really
       alluding to “whitening the race.” Despite the fact that Latinos
       come in all races and colors, this mindset has still managed to
       survive centuries after colonization and slavery. It’s the idea
       that you should marry or have children with someone lighter or
       “whiter” than you so that your children don’t just come out
       “better looking” but are granted the power and privileges that
       come with being a “white passing” or “white presenting” person
       in this world. It’s 2018 and Latin America’s obsession with
       blanqueamiento still prevails. We hear it when our abuelitas
       tell us to marry a whiter man or when someone tells us a curly
       haired Latina looks more beautiful when she straightens her hair
       and it’s even clearer when colorism rear it’s ugly head. What
       many don’t realize is that this ideology hurts all Latinos,
       regardless of skin tone and ultimately harms us as a community.
       ...
       The obsession Latin America has with whiteness stems directly
       from our colonial history.
       “Whiteness in a western sense began and was mastered in
       Hispaniola (which is now known as the Dominican Republic and
       Haiti). It was loosely experimented on in western Europe and
       within the Spanish inquisition and their conquests within
       continents in Africa, but it wasn’t until they came to this side
       of the world that this idea of whiteness developed because
       societies of mix race were on the rise and it was happening so
       fast that whiteness became the backdrop and they became the
       minorities,” Rodriguez-Solomon says. “But it also became the
       foundation of this idea of what a human being was. They had to
       develop societies where regardless of whether or not they were
       the minority or the majority, they had to place themselves in
       power. So they developed laws, they set up rules and they
       divided society throughout numerous countries in the western
       hemisphere where whiteness and essentially white supremacy was
       central.”
       Rodriguez-Solomon points out how the Europeans in power had to
       create structures to keep whiteness on top and they did it with
       everything from religion—by centering a white male god—and
       through education by erasing our African and indigenous history.
       “There was this understanding, whether it was clearly
       articulated or not, that whiteness had to always remain on the
       top and in the center of people’s consciousness in order to
       dominate,” she says.
       Even still today—in 2018—lighter skin is perceived to be more
       attractive, more powerful, more trustworthy and like
       Rodriguez-Solomon points out—more marriage material. All you
       have to do is look at Latin American television programs. Even
       in countries like Brazil, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Puerto
       Rico with large populations of darker skinned or Black Latinos,
       white Latinos are the protagonists in their films, television
       shows and telenovelas. White or “white presenting” Latinos still
       hold most positions of power in politics, government and
       finance.
       Many of us have relatives who subscribe to Eurocentric standards
       of beauty. We hear abuelas, tias, or even mothers encouraging
       their children not to marry a darker skinned, indigenous, or
       black Latino in fear that they will bring “ugly kids” into the
       world with dark skin, wide ethnic facial features, and curly,
       kinky hair that’s still often referred to as “pelo malo” (bad
       hair). This not-so-subtle form of racism is so ingrained in
       Latin American culture that it’s often ignorantly defended or
       ignored.[/quote]
       "Wide ethnic facial features"?? As if wide facial features do
       not occur among "whites":
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       height=852]
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       etc. etc.
       or curly hair, for that matter:
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       (And why is curly hair on "whites" never referred to as "bad
       hair"? Ever wondered about that?)
       All this just goes to show the sheer blindness that Eurocentrism
       leads to, as I previously explained. It is inaccurate to even
       speak of "Eurocentric standards of beauty", because as I have
       just shown, there are no standards as such. If there were
       standards, curly hair would be deterministically either good or
       bad irrespective of whom it is on. But when curly hair is bad
       when on a "non-white" but good when on a "white", it is just
       blind Eurocentrism.
       Continuing:
       [quote]“I have looked at countries like the Dominican Republic,
       Brazil, Colombia or Cuba that have a very dynamic racial history
       and across the board there’s been moments in each of the these
       countries where white migration was encouraged to physically
       whiten the country,” Rodriguez-Solomon says.
       ...
       Rodriguez-Solomon is referring to national policies in the
       Dominican Republic, Cuba, Colombia, Brazil among others that
       encouraged European and Jewish immigration in an effort to
       “dilute the black race” and whiten communities. This not only
       held up the concept of “Mejorar La Raza” but also impacted
       social blanqueamiento, and resulted in Latinos of indigenous or
       African descent choosing to identify as white to benefit from
       “white passing” privilege. In fact, a Pew Research study found
       that Latinos of both African and Indigenous descent still
       identify as white. Close to 11% of American adults with Hispanic
       ancestors don’t even identify as Hispanic or Latino.
       ...
       The obsession with whiteness harms all Latinos—even white
       ones—in the long run. Those of us living in the states in
       today’s intense political climate and the anti-immigrant
       sentiment that’s been proliferating since Donald Trump became
       president is just one way that ideas of white supremacy hurt all
       Latinos.[/quote]
       Screw Eurocentrism.
       ---
       More of the same again:
       www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/voices/my-latino-father-wants-me-to-
       marry-a-white-man/ar-AAIM60g?li=BBnbcA0
       [quote]You see, my old man always liked to tease me that he
       wanted me to end up with a white man—but it never quite felt
       like an actual joke. His reasoning varied over the years, most
       commonly ending with the fact that marrying my white, American
       mother was the best decision he ever made.
       ...
       Sadly, this way of thinking is not uncommon in the Latino
       community. The phrase "No atrases la raza" translates to “don’t
       set back the race.” Evelyn Almonte, a Licensed Social Worker and
       Bilingual Mental Health Clinician, explains that essentially,
       this means: “Internalized racism is so ingrained in the Latino
       community that many are not able to identify this way of
       thinking. For many, there’s still an internalized notion that
       white is superior.”
       Almonte can recall her own Dominican parents pushing her to date
       anyone more lighter skinned than she was. In high school, one of
       her fellow Afro-Dominican classmates was forbidden by her
       dark-skinned mother to date anyone who was not white.
       ...
       My father’s own internalized racism makes him believe I won't
       have as stable of a life if I end up with a fellow person of
       color—especially not a Uruguayan. Each time I told him I’d met
       an Uruguayan (a rare feat given that there are only 3.3 million
       people living in the country itself), he'd tell me I should stop
       seeing them immediately because they probably only wanted sex.
       ...
       I wound up in a relationship with a Spanish guy whose mother is
       from Honduras. My father was less than pleased, constantly
       questioning whether or not he was good enough for me. It brings
       me shame to say it, but the truth is, my father has a deep
       prejudice against Central Americans.
       Things ended with the Spaniard about 2 years ago, while we were
       living together in Thailand. I was heartbroken and didn’t know
       what to do with myself, so I flew back to the States to see my
       father. At the airport, after letting out a slew of
       sentence-long curses in Spanish, he looked me dead in the eye
       and told me he hoped that I’d now finally marry a white,
       American man.
       ...
       And more often than not, I’ve often felt fetishized by white men
       who called me exotic and referred to me first by my looks and
       curves instead of my passions, career, and ethics. I’ve had
       white men actually tell me I’m mistress material, but not wife
       material, but I refuse to be someone’s token Latina.[/quote]
       In other news:
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       #Post#: 2346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 12:43 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       OLD CONTENT contd.
       news.yahoo.com/chinas-single-women-seek-sperm-donors-overseas-02
       3813004.html
       Before we even start, stop saying "overseas". Nigeria is
       overseas relative to China. Do single Chinese women seek sperm
       from there?
       [quote]Looking at page after page of childhood photos,
       Xiaogunzhu was drawn to an image of a French-Irish boy with
       smiling dark blue eyes.
       ...
       Her choice made -- donor #14471 on the website of a Californian
       sperm bank -- Xiaogunzhu flew to the US to begin the first
       rounds of treatment.
       ...
       Danish sperm and egg bank Cryos International has created a
       Chinese website and added Chinese-speaking staff. American and
       European sperm banks told AFP that they have increasing numbers
       of Chinese clients.
       ...
       In China, sperm donors must remain anonymous.
       But international sperm banks offer women details like hair
       colour, childhood photos, and ethnic background.
       ...
       Carrie said that international sperm banks are more
       sophisticated than Chinese ones, and "able to meet consumer
       demand".
       Peter Reeslev, CEO of Cryos International, told AFP that given
       the extra choices, "Chinese women tend to choose Caucasian
       donors."[/quote]
       Most Caucasians in the world are "non-white". Do Chinese women
       tend to choose Indian sperm donors, for example?
       [quote]Reeslev said one possible reason is that sperm banks
       outside of China have fewer Chinese donors -- Cryos has only
       nine donors out of 900 who identify as Chinese.
       US sperm bank California Cryobank has 70 available donors out of
       500 who self-identify as Chinese.
       But experts say regardless of the availability of Chinese or
       Chinese-American donors, women are still chosing to have
       mixed-race children.
       "Basically, the selected sperm donors are mostly white," said Xi
       Hao, a clinical coordinator in Beijing who helps Chinese
       customers access a fertility clinic in California.[/quote]
       At least this guy is able to be honest about what is going on.
       So no, they are not choosing to have multiethnic offspring, they
       are choosing to have offspring of partial "white" ancestry.
       [quote]Zhan Yingying, a co-founder of the Diversity Family
       organisation, said it was rare for her to come across a mother
       who chose a sperm donor of Chinese ethnicity.
       Traits such as double eyelids and pale skin are often valued
       according to Chinese beauty standards.
       "Before choosing the sperm donor I had not considered a
       particular race," insisted Carrie, but after seeing the
       catalogue she realised she had a preference for foreign physical
       traits -- and now has two half-Danish children.[/quote]
       Do you think her preference extends to "non-white" foreign
       physical traits? We all know the answer.
       [quote]For baby Oscar, Xiaogunzhu said personality was the major
       factor in her decision as the donor was listed as "full of joy".
       But on her Weibo blog, photos of Oscar with the hashtag
       #mixed-race baby draw admiration.
       "I personally don't care about the colour of the skin," she
       said.
       "I only care that the eyes are big and the features are
       good."[/quote]
       Would the hashtag draw admiration if the baby was "non-white"
       multiethnic? We all know the answer. (By the way, plenty of
       "non-white" people have big eyes, so STFU.)
       Just cut the bullshit and admit you are utterly pathetic
       Eurocentrists already. If the Chinese government were even
       marginally competent, it would not allow Eurocentrists to
       reproduce at all.
       ---
       To reiterate, I have no problem with interethnic marriage in
       itself. What I have a problem with is "non-whites"
       Eurocentrically thinking that getting a "white" spouse is
       marrying "up". Besides being insulting, it leads to the
       phenomenon described in the first post which then further
       reinforces Eurocentrism in a never-ending cycle.
       ---
       They do this so their potential offspring will be more “white”
       and will therefore have reproductive access to a greater pool of
       women, since “white” men are treated with reverence by “non
       white” female Eurocentrists.
       ---
       Why only mention the advantage to their sons? Do not their
       daughters also receive the same advantage? But yes, and the
       reason why "non-white" female Eurocentrists treat "white" men
       with reverence is the same one again: they too want "whiter"
       offspring.
       Look at this example:
       www.reddit.com/r/JustBeAsian/comments/eldv5v/poor_mans_steven_ye
       un_with_his_robust_hqnp_white/
       They actually mention robustness explicitly as a positive
       trait..... Yet how often do we see "non-white" women being
       praised by Eurocentrists for being robust? (More often, robust
       "non-white" women are invariably compared to ogres, etc..) Which
       goes back to what I was saying earlier:
       [quote]It is inaccurate to even speak of "Eurocentric standards
       of beauty", because as I have just shown, there are no standards
       as such. If there were standards, curly hair would be
       deterministically either good or bad irrespective of whom it is
       on. But when curly hair is bad when on a "non-white" but good
       when on a "white", it is just blind Eurocentrism.[/quote]
       Same thing here: robustness is considered bad when on a
       "non-white" but good when on a "white". Blind Eurocentrism.
       Our first task is to exclude from being taken seriously those
       who are incapable of consistency. I personally dislike
       robustness no matter whom it is on, but I have more respect for
       someone who likes robustness no matter whom it is on than for
       someone who likes robustness only when on a "white". The former
       I can even have an enjoyable aesthetical discussion with, even
       though we have different tastes. The latter is not worth wasting
       time on other than to ridicule in public.
       ---
       dailycaller.com/2018/03/22/brazilian-women-white-american-sperm/
       [quote]Brazilian women want to be impregnated from the sperm of
       white American men, according to a report from the Wall Street
       Journal Thursday.
       Wealthy Brazilian women and lesbian couples are requesting white
       male sperm from the U.S. so their kids will have more Caucasian
       features, the Wall Street Journal reported.[/quote]
       If anyone was hoping that LGBT people are less Eurocentric, you
       can stop hoping now. One thing is for sure, though: LGBT
       Eurocentrists should be disqualified from "Pride" events, as
       they obviously have none.
       [quote]At least 50 percent of Brazil’s population is black or
       mixed-race, but women are selecting young sperm donors who will
       more likely produce children with blond hair and blue eyes. The
       number of American sperm donors to Brazil surged at least 3,000
       percent in the past seven years. It is also illegal to pay men
       for their sperm in Brazil, which allows American donors more
       opportunity in the market.
       The carefully vetted process of selecting American sperm and
       then the in vitro fertilization process starts at around
       $7,000.[/quote]
       If I had an extra $7000, I'd rather save it up for the child to
       choose how to spend it later!
       [quote]The rationale for wanting white children is reportedly
       due to racism and tense race relations throughout Brazil’s
       history. Brazil took in 10 times as many slaves as the U.S. and
       it was the last Western country to make slavery illegal in 1888.
       Now, 80 percent of the richest one percent of Brazil’s
       population is white, according to WSJ.[/quote]
       ---
       The psychology of low self-esteem:
       www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/opinion/biracial-pakistani-child.html
       [quote]I stand in the aisle of the school bus while the other
       seventh graders snicker and block me from sitting next to them,
       as they have for the entire school year. Taking my seat next to
       the bus driver, I look out to the road with resignation. My
       great-aunt, adorned in a colorful sari, waves goodbye to me
       while the entire school bus looks on. I want to disappear into
       the dingy brown vinyl bus seats. With the newfound cruelty of
       adolescence, I scoff and loudly tell my classmates, “That crazy
       lady is just my maid.”
       I am still ashamed of how I treated my great-aunt. I also know
       it was a form of preteen self-preservation. I desperately wanted
       what so many other children that age do: to be as bland and
       vanilla as possible, just so that I could get through the day
       without being ostracized.
       I now find myself in a mixed marriage, mother to a 3-year-old
       mixed-race girl who easily passes for white. Her fair skin,
       auburn hair and light brown eyes do not even hint at her
       Pakistani background.
       … When I went to school, I would toss my chicken tikka
       sandwiches, lovingly made by my mother, in the trash, so as not
       to infuse the school with the odor of cumin and suffer my
       classmates’ incessant jokes. …
       A few years later, those glorious Manhattan pillars of American
       might crumbled. Though I did not know what the world held in
       store for us in the coming years — the threats, the insults, the
       judgmental looks — what I did know was that we were already
       tried, convicted and sentenced before we even knew what our
       crime was. …
       But I didn’t pass. As I sat in large leather chairs at medical
       school interviews all over the country, with sweaty palms
       peeking through a navy business suit, I was asked whether I
       would wear a burqa as a doctor. (I have never worn a head
       scarf.) I was told that my religion was the reason Nigerian
       women were stoned every day, and was asked whether my father had
       taught me how to make bombs in our garage.
       Luckily I came armed with Norman-Rockwellian-Americana stories
       filled with glorious tales of the grateful immigrant:
       hardworking and nonthreatening. I became a caricature of what
       they wanted.
       This is the tumultuous conflict that my daughter will never have
       to know. I only wish it was because cultural attitudes had
       shifted, rather than because she has less melanin than I do. Her
       skin color has given her a sense of belonging, something I never
       had. Instead, I worry whether she will be the one snickering,
       not allowing her classmate to sit next to her on the bus. After
       all, my bullies in school all looked like the daughter I have
       now. …
       I have had to fight for this identity in a way my daughter, who
       easily passes for white, never will. My daughter has the
       privilege of choice, or of not choosing race at all; her default
       is white, and the power dynamic is in her favor. She will have a
       seat reserved for her on the school bus before she even gets on.
       However, I’ve found myself worried that she will internalize
       what the world tells her about her mother — that because of my
       darker skin, I am worth less. I remain terrified of the day that
       she tosses her kebab sandwich in the garbage and jeers at me —
       her brown-skinned, Urdu-speaking mother waving goodbye to her —
       and loudly tells her classmates, “She’s my nanny.”[/quote]
       If that does happen, you deserve it. You were the one who
       worshipped your own bullies in school. Given your attitudes, it
       is perfectly likely that your husband also bullied "non-whites"
       back when he was in school. You could have chosen to not
       reproduce. But clearly the prospect of getting a "whiter"
       daughter outweighed the prospect of getting a daughter carrying
       her parents' inferior genes.
       #Post#: 2347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 1:06 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       OLD CONTENT contd.
       So-called "princess" of formerly colonized country has as low
       self-esteem as the commoners:
       www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8080223/How-Princess-Haya-ran-a
       rms-British-ex-soldier-bodyguard.html
       [quote]Princess Haya Bint Al Hussein ran into the arms of her
       hunky bodyguard as her marriage to Dubai's billionaire ruler
       Sheikh Mohamed al Maktoum collapsed.
       The princess embarked on a two-year affair with her close
       protection officer Russell Flowers behind the sheikh's back,
       which sparked the couple's £4.5billion divorce.
       Family Court judge Sir Andrew McFarlane said the princess began
       an adulterous affair with the infantry soldier in 2017 and that
       her husband had been aware of the 'inappropriate relationship'
       for some time.[/quote]
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       Then again, when both she and her husband (and, sadly, also
       their son, probably not by his own choice) wear Western clothes,
       why would we expect her to not be Eurocentric when it comes to
       sexual partners? This is why we also have this topic:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/
       Such prideless "royalty" needs to be deposed ASAP and replaced
       with new royalty possessing actual dignity, or else
       decolonization will never succeed.
       ---
       "One thing I noticed was that "non white" female Eurocentrists
       will only criticize the Eurocentrism of their male counterparts,
       and similarly "non white" male Eurocentrists will only criticize
       the Eurocentrism of their female counterparts."
       This is merely a particular form of a common behaviour in which
       women will only criticize men for having high standards in
       choosing women, and men will only criticize women for having
       high standards in choosing men. From an economic perspective,
       the mediocrities on each side are trying to get a better deal
       out of their limited buying power. While undoubtedly
       hypocritical, it is usually harmless, and often amusing.
       The only problem here is that high standards have become equated
       with Eurocentrism! This is what we are here to end. I myself
       have high standards (and proudly so), and I would prefer a world
       in which both men and women have higher standards than most
       currently have, but I assure you that no one whom I assess will
       ever receive a free score boost just for being "white", and I
       hope everyone else can follow my example.
       Of course, this may take a while. Look at this shit:
       www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/our-fathers-body
       [quote]We filled out our father’s name, his age, his county of
       death, his Social Security number. And then we reached Question
       11: decedent’s race.
       “White,” one of my sisters said. She said it quickly, as if it
       were a formality, a diversion from our steady progress toward
       Question 12: Was the decedent ever in the U.S. armed forces?
       Wait, I thought. What part of our father—who was born, in 1932,
       in Cairo, Egypt—was white?
       ...
       “I’m pretty sure that nobody ever thought he was white,” I said.
       We looked at the form again. My mother pointed to its text.
       “Check one or more boxes to indicate what the decedent
       considered himself to be,” she said. She smoothed the fabric of
       her jeans. The gold tassels of her rings struck each other as
       she worked her hands back and forth. “It’s what he thought he
       was,” she said. “Isn’t it?”
       I found it difficult to look at my mom. “Maybe he would have
       wanted to be listed as Arab-American,” I said.
       Even as I said it, I knew I was lying. Although Egypt had
       declared its independence from the United Kingdom ten years
       before my father was born, the vestiges of British and French
       colonial life had marked his adolescence. In Cairo, he’d
       attended Le Collège de la Sainte Famille, a French-language
       school run by Jesuits, and this had given him a sense of
       apartness from the society in which he lived. He was from a
       branch of the family that had converted to Catholicism in the
       nineteenth century, and he grew up within a narrative of
       cultural difference. He was exceptional in Egyptian society, the
       priests of Sainte Famille told him. Specially chosen. Dad’s
       experience was not unusual. When Jean-Paul Sartre said that
       colonialism “selected adolescents, branded the principles of
       Western culture on their foreheads with a red-hot iron, and
       gagged their mouths with sounds, pompous and awkward,” he was
       largely pointing to the upper-middle class of North Africa.
       “Every effort is made to bring the colonized person to admit the
       inferiority of his culture,” Frantz Fanon warned, at the
       Congress of Black African Writers, in 1959. He might as well
       have been talking about my family.
       ...
       Neither my father nor I would have been welcomed in America
       before the twentieth century. In 1876, the Supreme Court
       declared that immigration was under the authority of the federal
       government, and, from that point forward, for decades, the House
       and Senate passed laws limiting admission to the country
       according to race. President Chester A. Arthur signed the
       Chinese Exclusion Act into law in 1882; the Senate floor debate
       for that bill astonishes me every time I read it. “They are
       parasites, like those insects which fasten themselves upon
       vegetables or upon animals and feed and feed until satiety
       causes them to release their hold,” Senator George Graham Vest,
       of Missouri, said. In a letter published in the New-York
       Tribune, Senator James G. Blaine, a Republican of Maine, wrote,
       “If as a nation we have the right to keep out infectious
       diseases, if we have the right to exclude the criminal classes
       from coming to us, we surely have the right to exclude that
       immigration which reeks with impurity and which cannot come to
       us without plenteously sowing the seeds of moral and physical
       disease, destitution, and death.”
       ...
       Barred from entry to America, would-be immigrants appealed again
       and again to the country’s judicial branch. Residents of Burma,
       Japan, Mexico, Syria, Armenia, India, Afghanistan, the
       Philippines, Korea, and the Arabian Peninsula pleaded their
       cases at the state and national levels. Known as
       racial-prerequisite cases, the fifty-two rulings that resulted
       add up to a gradual, inexorable, legal construction of
       whiteness. Applicants who were ruled white were allowed to
       immigrate.
       ...
       The story of the Syrian national Costa Najour is particularly
       poignant. In 1909, Najour’s suit for naturalization was rejected
       on the basis of his skin color. He appealed. Later that year, on
       a viciously cold December day in Atlanta, Najour appeared before
       the circuit-court judge William T. Newman. In the course of four
       hours, Najour’s attorney presented an extensive argument as to
       why his client was a “free white person.” The government
       attorney sat at his table. He waited. When it was his turn to
       speak, he had a simple request. Would Najour please remove his
       clothes, and show the court the color of his body? Najour—in
       what emotional state the historical record does not reveal—rose
       out of his seat and began to comply.
       ...
       Perhaps it’s also not surprising that my father married two
       women of European descent: his first wife, an Irish-American,
       and then my mom, a Latvian refugee. In his children, he created
       what he yearned to be.[/quote]
       This is what low self-esteem looks like.
       P.S.:
       [quote]Twitter was the end-stage of Dad’s politics. “I’ve joined
       the Tweeter,” he told me, in January, 2012. His handle was
       @truthlovin, and his bio described him like this: “Retired
       teacher, M.A of Education U of W, In U.S. since 1946. 7
       wonderful grandchildren. D. Trump will make America great again
       tweets are my personal opinions.”[/quote]
       P.P.S.:
       [quote]The night before my father’s funeral, our family gathered
       for the vigil of the open-casket rosary. I arrived early, and
       stood alone in the room with Dad’s body, looking down at him. He
       was wearing a suit.[/quote]
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       ---
       www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/parenting/children-skin-color-race.ht
       ml
       [quote]I’m Darker Than My Daughter. Here’s Why It Matters.
       Breaching colorism with my little girl sent me reeling back into
       my childhood shame.
       ...
       Some 35 years earlier, after being teased by white classmates
       because of my brown skin, I ran home from school crying
       inconsolably and pleaded with my mother: Why am I not white? Can
       I be white, like them? Her laughter is all I remember from our
       exchange.
       Growing up in 1950s Mexico, among the calcified disdain for its
       Indigenous past, left my mother without the skills and necessary
       self-reflection to guide me through the maze of color
       consciousness.
       ...
       “What’s wrong with my skin color, honey?” My hue is raw
       almond-like in the winter, darkening to an unpeeled macadamia
       nut shade by summer’s end.
       “It’s ugly,” she blurted.
       What spilled from my mouth next was false, though I wished it
       wasn’t: “I love the color of my skin.” I desperately wanted her
       to believe me, and maybe even a little more than that, I wanted
       to believe myself. Yet having been silenced by laughter and left
       alone to process years of slights, by both white and Latinx
       individuals because of my color, I was submerged in shame.
       The truth is: I have a fraught relationship with my brownness.
       Tortured, actually.
       ...
       Seemingly repulsed, she scooted even further away. I inched
       closer. She stuck a stiff arm out to stop me, as if to protect
       her porcelain skin from my muddied shade. Could she smell my
       shame? I felt pulled to apologize for being ugly in her eyes,
       for being brown. I yearned to tell her I understood why she
       disliked the way I looked, and to share that I disliked myself
       sometimes too. I resisted.
       All I wanted to do was peel my skin off, to hang it up for
       someone else to wear. Anything to avoid the absolute humiliation
       and reminder that my pigmentation made me untouchable in the
       eyes of someone I loved so much, someone I assumed would accept
       me in the same unconditional way I accepted her. Someone I made.
       Someone who could have looked like me but doesn’t.[/quote]
       You should not have reproduced. No one who worships "whiteness"
       should reproduce.
       [quote]“What skin color do you think is beautiful?” Without
       pause, she chirped, “White! Like daddy’s belly.” She coveted the
       whitest part of his body, the color furthest from mine.
       I repeated, “I love my skin color.” She said nothing. Her
       silence felt equal parts dismissive and contemplative. I was
       unsure if my words had seeped in.
       Was I the only brown mother being shunned by her light-skinned
       preschooler?[/quote]
       Young children can effortlessly sense insincerity. You can say
       as many times as you want that you love your skin colour; your
       daughter knows as well as you do that it is not true. You were
       the one who chose her "white" father to reproduce with, after
       all! Your daughter will learn from your actions rather than from
       your words.
       If your daughter finds us, we might be able to save her mind:
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       But even then we would advise your daughter to not reproduce, as
       she carries your Eurocentric blood.
       ---
       There are a ton of these types of tweets:
       [img width=340 height=1280]
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       "Something about the rope"
       Think about this statement. The individual in question literally
       fetishizes her own slavery. She probably would have been the
       type of person to get raped by her slavemaster and enjoy it.
       ---
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       ---
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       i/images/7/76/Redpillcomics2.jpg
       [img width=904
       height=1280]
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       i/images/6/6f/Redpillcomics13.jpg[/img]
       www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/ba4oco/npr_made_a_sou
       ndtrack_to_black_pill_comics/
       [quote]"L saw herself as the opposite of racist - someone
       working to build a world free of racism, of all the isms. She'd
       been raised by a working-class, single mom who'd emigrated from
       China. And L was proud to be Chinese-American. She was studying
       gender in college through an intersectional lens, learning about
       systematic oppression and white privilege. Plus, she was
       creating safe spaces online for other Asian-American women to
       process the racism and misogyny they had to deal with every day,
       so the call-out blindsided her."
       "One thing, I started to realize - as I was swiping past faces -
       was that it was, like, almost this instantaneous thing where I
       would see, like, a black face or, like, someone who looked like
       Latinx and I would, like, almost instinctually start to swipe. I
       was unconsciously, like, rejecting people because of, literally,
       like, the color of their skin. I was literally giving white
       faces a chance that I was not giving black and Latinx
       faces."[/quote]
       ---
       We need similar comics ridiculing male Eurocentrists also.
       But is ridiculing such behaviour alone enough to curb it? I am
       doubtful. Deeper countermeasures are required, which is what we
       are here to develop. Additionally, as the comics above
       highlight, being politically anti-racist does not inoculate
       against reproductive Eurocentrism. So the solution must be found
       elsewhere.
       (Also, some of the research papers linked to from the subreddit
       may be worth reposting in our Human Evolution forum.)
       ---
       Could we also expect to find fellow Aryanists there? In this
       thread, for example, several members express their discontent
       for PUA or "redpillers" as they find it simply too demanding of
       them to act aggressive:
       www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/8zrcnf/blackpill_redp
       ill/e2lt9cz/
       However, there are other members on the thread who also oppose
       PUA but because it is not effective enough, so they would still
       be Eurocentrists.
       ---
       "Could we also expect to find fellow Aryanists there?"
       Unlikely. I have explained in the past that our attitude to
       relationships is not:
       1) want to have a partner
       2) find someone to fill the vacancy
       but instead:
       1) encounter an individual
       2) want that individual (and no one else) to be your partner
       (and if unsuccessful, not wanting anyone else continues to
       apply)
       whereas PUA from the outset presumes the former attitude.
       Therefore anyone who would even be interested in PUA is not one
       of us.
       ---
       Now that I think of it, I was never really drawn to PUA either,
       although I didn't know why at the time. Probably because I was
       not interested in sexual relationships.
       ---
       It should be noted that it is not only incels that consciously
       select for these traits. I have seen even parents of some people
       advise their children to discriminate in favour of these traits
       because it will afford their offspring high status.
       Moreover, it should also be noted that preference for these
       traits often supersedes preference for wealth. For example, a
       "non-white" female Eurocentrist would relinquish economic
       prosperity by refusing to marry a wealthy "non-white" individual
       and choosing to marry a poor "white" person instead, thus
       proving that Eurocentrism trumps economics.
       A more pertinent example of this phenomenon that I have observed
       is several "non-white" female Eurocentrists choosing to fit in
       with their social clique of "white" friends, rather than aspire
       towards success and monetary wealth, the latter of which would
       generally be expected to be the case if her reproductive choices
       were motivated purely by economic reasons and not Eurocentrism.
       ---
       The most ironic part of this is that, in turning down monetary
       wealth, they sincerely think of themselves as motivationally
       purer(!) than the "mere" gold-diggers. This is how screwed up
       Eurocentrism is.
       ---
       Are you aware of the LMS (looks, money, status) theory? At the
       end of the day, I think that looks and money are ultimately not
       valued in and of themselves, but rather as a means to obtain
       status. For example, monetary wealth is valued only insofar as
       they allow the woman to rise in the social hierarchy, while
       "looks" are only valued insofar as they approximate Eurocentric
       phenotypes, which again would afford more social status.
       What I'm getting at is that nowadays attractiveness is purely
       judged based on materialistic criteria, such that "looks" have
       become synonymous with "whiteness", and "wealth" has become
       synonymous with money. As such, I think that those who evaluate
       their  prospective partners based on such "standards" should be
       discarded altogether in any serious discussion of
       aesthetics/economics.
       ---
       "At the end of the day, I think that looks and money are
       ultimately not valued in and of themselves, but rather as a
       means to obtain status. For example, monetary wealth is valued
       only insofar as they allow the woman to rise in the social
       hierarchy, while "looks" are only valued insofar as they
       approximate Eurocentric phenotypes, which again would afford
       more social status."
       This may be the case for some individuals, but I would caution
       against general claims. If your claim is generally true, it
       would imply that a woman who already possesses securely high
       status would be unconcerned with a man's looks and money. Is
       this consistently the case? More obviously, how do you account
       for married women cheating, which is a risk to status in
       societies which frown on extramarital affairs?
       ""looks" have become synonymous with "whiteness""
       That's taking it a bit far. If you show Eurocentrists two
       "whites", they will still find one better-looking than the other
       according to their other standards. It is only when comparing
       "whites" with "non-whites" that Eurocentrists toss all their
       other standards out of the window.
       ---
       www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gb1zhp/i_literally_only
       _moved_to_asia_for_easy_sex/
       [quote]I kept hearing how white foreigners are treated in some
       east asian countries, and how the girls here have the hots for
       white guys. I ended up trying tinder and my god the matches kept
       rolling in I felt like royalty. So I decided to come here to do
       my graduate schooling. In the states I dated a few girls and I
       think For reference I'm 29 years old decent looking athletic
       body 5'9" so it wasn't for a lack of interest back home. But
       coming here opened up pandoras box for me, its just TOO FUCKING
       EASY. Like, dangerously easy. Before this corona business I was
       meeting a new chick almost every other day and all it took was a
       couple of drinks between us before we were back in her or my
       place. Didn't even matter I barely spoke her language (Japanese)
       somehow everything I said was funny and it felt I couldn't do
       anything wrong[/quote]
       ---
       www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/gg18mp/how_do_i_tell_guys_i_date_t
       hat_i_really_like_race/
       [quote]I (19F+Latina) recently learned I really love race play
       during sex. I had a hookup with a white guy and he called me a
       "beaner bitch" and that I belong to him and I actually really
       liked it. I ended up exploring more with that and I absolutely
       like it. How do I bring it up to guys I date without scaring
       them away??[/quote]
       First tell them you do not plan to reproduce, so that at least
       they will not be scared of creating offspring with low
       self-esteem inherited from you.
       #Post#: 2348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 1:14 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       OLD CONTENT contd.
       www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/parenting/baby-name-family-history.ht
       ml
       [quote]When I (a Japanese-Taiwanese American woman) married my
       husband (a Jewish white man) I kept my last name, wanting to
       maintain that visible part of my identity. Our background and
       cultures are important to both of us, so when our daughter was
       born, we chose her names carefully — so carefully that she ended
       up with four names. Her first name honors my dead father,
       Charlie. Her first middle name is both Hebrew and Japanese, her
       second middle name is my Taiwanese last name, and her last name
       is my husband’s Germanic last name.
       At first I thought her four names were a beautiful compromise.
       But at 18 months old, her eyes are bluish-gray, her hair is
       light brown. While I’ve tried to wrestle with what it means for
       her to appear so light in a society that hugely privileges
       whiteness, I’ve grown more uneasy about her name. Her first and
       last names, the most salient parts, look and sound as white as
       her features. This might seem like a benefit at a time when
       racism against Asian-Americans is rising again. To me it seems
       like a loss of the part of her that is me, of the part of her
       that is our history.[/quote]
       So why did you reproduce?
       [quote]When I wonder, When will she know who she is? I also
       mean, When will I know who she is? Daily we accumulate data.
       Stuck at home in the pandemic, we watch her develop with the
       precision of zookeepers overseeing a caged animal: the way my
       gestures are refracted in her wild, lumbering movements, the way
       she modulates her reactions to what my husband finds most
       hilarious. Our daughter, our tiny mirror. Perhaps this choice is
       so fraught because our names — mine, my husband’s, our
       daughter’s — are functioning as proxies for not only our
       cultures, but ourselves. Underneath the question, Should we
       change her name is the question, Can we control who she becomes?
       I equivocate so long over the former because I cannot yet face
       the answer to the latter.[/quote]
       Just give her one of these to wear:
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       The only hope now is for her to voluntarily refrain from
       reproducing, thereby belatedly rectifying your mistake.
       ---
       www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/spanish-conquest-left-its-imprint-m
       en-s-genes-panama
       [quote]The Spanish conquest of the Americas was devastating for
       native peoples. Many native men died in conflicts with the
       invaders. Male Spanish colonists often came without their wives
       and took native women as partners. A new genetic analysis of
       Panamanian men by a team including a Smithsonian scientist shows
       this historical legacy: only 22 percent had Y-chromosomes of
       native origin, even though most Panamanians are of female
       indigenous ancestry.
       ...
       A team of geneticists from the University of Pavia including
       Antonio Torroni found that among the 408 Panamanian men whose
       genetics were analyzed, 60 percent had Y-chromosomes that
       originated in West Eurasia and North Africa (probably mostly
       from Europe). About 22 percent were of Native American origin, 6
       percent from sub-Saharan Africa and 2 percent from South Asia
       (probably China or the Indian sub-continent). In contrast, a
       large majority of this group—including nearly all those with
       Native American, African and Asian Y-chromosomes—had mtDNA of
       indigenous origin. Among men with Eurasian Y-chromosomes, 13
       percent had mtDNA from sub-Saharan Africa and only a very few
       had European mtDNA.[/quote]
       To reproductively decolonize Panama, it is not enough to get the
       60% down to 0%, which is the easy part. The hard part is to
       eliminate the Eurocentrism within the remaining gene pool.
       ---
       Until now, I was unaware that the phenomenon we are fighting
       against here has its own Wikipedia entry:
       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanqueamiento
       [quote]Blanqueamiento, branqueamento, or whitening, is a social,
       political, and economic practice used in many post-colonial
       countries in the Americas and Oceania to "improve the race"
       (mejorar la raza)[1] towards a supposed ideal of whiteness.[2]
       The term blanqueamiento is rooted in Latin America and is used
       more or less synonymously with racial whitening. However,
       blanqueamiento can be considered in both the symbolic and
       biological sense.[3] Symbolically, blanqueamiento represents an
       ideology that emerged from legacies of European colonialism,
       described by Anibal Quijano's theory of coloniality of power,
       which caters to white dominance in social hierarchies.[4]
       Biologically, blanqueamiento is the process of whitening by
       marrying a lighter-skinned individual to produce lighter-skinned
       offspring.[4][/quote]
       Wanting racial improvement is a good thing. The bad thing is to
       equate improvement with "whitening". As I have warned in the
       past, racial idealism does not imply that the ideal is the
       correct one.
       [quote]Peter Wade argues that blanqueamiento is a historical
       process that can be linked to nationalism. When thinking about
       nationalism, the ideologies behind it stem from national
       identity, which according to Wade is "a construction of the past
       and the future",[5] where the past is understood as being more
       traditional and backwards. For example, past demographics of
       Puerto Rico were heavily black and Indian-influenced because the
       country partook in the slave trade and was simultaneously home
       to many indigenous groups. Therefore, understanding
       blanqueamiento as it relates to modernization, modernization is
       then understood as a guidance in the direction away from black
       and indigenous roots. Modernization then happened as described
       by Wade as "the increasing integration of blacks and Indians
       into modern society, where they will mix in and eventually
       disappear, taking their primitive culture with them".[5] This
       kind of implementation of blanqueamiento takes place in a
       societies that have historically always been led by 'white'
       people whose guidance would carry "the country away from its
       past, which began in Indianness and slavery"[5] with hopes of
       promoting the intermixing of bodies to develop a predominantly
       white-skinned society.[/quote]
       This is why I insist on regressivism, and not progressivism, as
       a foundation of True Leftism:
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       It is incorrect, on the other hand, to associate the past with
       tradition, as I have also explained previously. Tradition is
       what managed to survive from the past until the present, hence
       likely to be the worst of the past. A radical regressive should
       be infinitely more interested in seeking out that in the past
       which failed to survive to the present, which is likely to
       include content of far higher quality.
       In any case, modernization merely means replacing the local
       tradition with Western tradition, therefore even to genuine
       anti-traditionalists is no improvement. Thus the only people who
       think modernization is improvement are Eurocentrists pretending
       to be anti-traditionalists.
       [quote]The formation of mestizaje emerged in the shift of Latin
       America towards multiculturalist perspectives and policies.[6]
       Mestizaje has been considered problematic by many U.S. scholars
       because it sustains racial hierarchies and celebrates
       blanqueamiento.[6] For example, Swanson argues that although
       mestizaje is not a physical embodiment of whitening, it is "not
       so much about mixing, as it about a progressive whitening of the
       population".[7]
       Another possibility when considering mestizaje as it relates to
       blanqueamiento is by understanding mestizaje as a concept that
       encourages mixedness, but differs from the concept of
       blanqueamiento on the basis of the end goal for mestizaje. As
       Peter Wade states, "it celebrates the idea of difference in a
       democratic, non-hierarchical form. Rather than envisioning a
       gradual whitening, it holds up the general image of the mestizo
       in which racial, regional, and even class differences are
       submerged into a common identification with mixedness."[5] On
       the same coin, when thinking about blanqueamiento, the future
       goal takes up the same theme of mixing. The difference between
       them is that while mestizaje glorifies the mixing of all people
       to reach an end goal of having a brown population,
       blanqueamiento has the end goal of whiteness. The outcome of
       mestizaje mixing would lead to "the predominance of the mestizo"
       and is not "construed necessarily as (a) whitened mestizo".[5]
       Most importantly, both of these ideologies link emerging
       nationhood with the predominance of the mestizo or the whitened
       population.[/quote]
       It is stupid to care about skin colour, period. The real issue
       is that homogenization cannot eliminate the colonialist ancestry
       (and hence the colonialist personality traits associated with
       it) from the gene pool. Only state control over reproduction can
       achieve this. While "mestizaje" may have less slavish intentions
       than "blanqueamiento", it is still misguided, and distracts from
       the true solution.
       [quote]Blanqueamiento was enacted in national policies of many
       Latin American countries at the turn of the 20th century. In
       most cases, these policies promoted European immigration as a
       means to whiten the population.[8]
       Brazil
       ...
       Blanqueamiento ("branqueamento" in Portuguese) was circulated in
       national policy throughout Brazil in the late 19th and early
       20th centuries.[9][10] Blanqueamiento policies emerged in the
       aftermath of the abolition of slavery and the beginning of
       Brazil's first republic (1888–1889). To dilute the black race,
       Brazil executed public measures to increase European
       immigration,[9][11] where more than 1 million Europeans arrived
       in São Paulo between 1890 and 1914.[12] The state and federal
       government funded and subsidized immigrant travels,[11] where
       immigrants arrived from Portugal, Spain, Italy, Russia, Germany,
       Austria, France and the Netherlands.[13] Claims that white blood
       would eventually eliminate black blood were found in accounts of
       immigration statistics.[13] Created in the late 19th century,
       Brazil's Directoria Geral de Estatistica (DGE) has conducted
       demographic censuses and managed to measure the progress of
       whitening as successful in Brazil.[13]
       Cuba
       At the beginning of the 20th century, the Cuban government
       created immigration laws that invested more than $1 million into
       recruiting Europeans into Cuba to whiten the state.[14] High
       participation of blacks in independence movements threatened
       white elitist power and when the 1899 census showed that more
       than &#8203;1&#8260;3 of Cuba's population was colored, white
       migration started to gain support.[15] Political blanqueamiento
       began in 1902 after the U.S. occupation, where migration of
       "undesirables" (i.e. blacks) became prohibited in Cuba.[16]
       Immigration policies supported the migration of entire families.
       Between 1902 and 1907, nearly 128,000 Spaniards entered Cuba,
       and officially in 1906, Cuba created its immigration law that
       funded white migrants.[16][/quote]
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       [quote]Blanqueamiento is also associated with food consumption.
       For example, in Osorno, a Chilean city with a strong German
       heritage, consumption of desserts, marmelades and kuchens
       whitens the inhabitants of the city.[20][/quote]
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       [quote]Blanqueamiento can also be accomplished through economic
       achievement. Many scholars have argued that money has the
       ability to whiten, where wealthier individuals are more likely
       to be classified as white, regardless of phenotypic
       appearance.[5][21][22] It is by this changing of social status
       that blacks achieve blanqueamiento.[23] In his study, Marcus
       Eugenio Oliveira Lima showed that groups of Brazilians succeeded
       more when whitened.[12][/quote]
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       In short, WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE.
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       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 11, 2021, 1:11 am
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       This guy prefers to trash Indian genetics and culture than trash
       the girl for being a Eurocentrist..... Which probably means he
       is a Eurocentrist himself.
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       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 13, 2021, 12:35 am
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       [quote]why are far right men married to women of color?
       For one, it’s question of the chicken and the egg.
       With strong social problems, these men are offputting to
       their real prize – white women*. This causes them to blame
       either white women or “Jewish” conspiracies to “corrupt” white
       women (especially for leaving them for men of color). Their
       far-right behavior further isolates them from white women,
       causing further problems.
       They need sex and companionship, though, since this is the
       driving force for male motivation.
       In comes a horribly insecure woman of color, who wishes she
       lived up to the supposed beauty and cultural prestige of whites
       and white women. She’ll defend her choices to the death, though,
       since, you know, nobody (including my own mother) wants to admit
       they made a mistake.
       Biiiig problem, though, since this guy technically was
       unmarriageable within his own culture, it doesn’t magically make
       him sexually attractive to his wife, especially not one with a
       strong agenda towards survival and pathological inability to see
       herself as a sexual being. The dead bedroom, profound
       understanding of his own undesirability, and nagging sense that
       he solved nothing causes Proud Boys like Nick to visit the
       capital in a highly dangerous, life-ruining act of desperation
       and sexually-repressed agitation.
       Again, now we have millions of biracials with non-white moms and
       openly racist white dads, inheriting both their mother’s self
       hatred as well as their father’s mental illness, and yet I’m the
       bad guy for pointing this out. Cry me a river, this was
       society’s responsiblity years ago but this kind of thing just
       got lost in the muck of intersectionality.
       Remember, white supremacy is taught, specifically by ones
       parents. No where along those lines does it say one of ones
       parents can’t be non-white.
       *Cue the whinelord who says, “oh ET, you’re obsessed with white
       women!” The reality is (yes, the actual reality, like it or
       not), there is a tremendous subset of society that de facto
       believes that whiteness is the ideal, at least in terms of
       physicality. Spin it as somehow my fault, but everyone knows
       this is what goes through the minds of most people.[/quote]
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       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: guest5 Date: January 16, 2021, 3:23 pm
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       Also, if sex and companionship are your only motivating force as
       a male, or female even, you need to take a really good look in
       the mirror. You are a slave! You are a slave to nature and
       genetics. You are a slave to the material world.
       I can also state unequivocally the greatest humans that have
       walked among us were not motivated by sex and companionship at
       all!
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       Re: Reproductive decolonization
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 17, 2021, 2:49 am
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       The thing is, for these Eurocentrists, it isn't even foremost
       about sex/companionship, but above all about "whitening" their
       offspring, as proven in the posts above about sperm buyers.
       Also:
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       [quote]They have them in Delhi, Madras, Mumbai, and also in the
       UK among the Indian expats. The breeding parties are for Indian
       women, usually very upscale and immerses in Western circles, who
       want white babies but don't want a white husband, or at least
       don't want to divorce their Indian husbands. If they have the
       consent or at least tolerance of their husbands and families,
       then they're set up with a breeding party. The goal here is for
       the Indian woman to get pregnant by a white man, and that man
       has to be tall, blue eyed, handsome, intelligent, usually a
       businessman who's in India for a time.[/quote]
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       Don't forget this either:
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