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Re: Hinduism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 11, 2025, 12:45 am
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"easier to convince someone who already believes in a
quality-based caste system that the standards of quality that
they should follow are actually OUR standards, rather than the
standards set by Vedic-Brahmin tradition."
So the main question is: among supporters of the caste system,
how many are misguided Aryanists (who love Indus Valley
civilization and hate Vedism but who mistakenly believe the
caste system came from Indus Valley civilization and hence
support it), and how many are Vedists (who hence accurately
support the caste system which actually did come from that era)?
Because I expect that only the former can be persuaded in the
way you describe. The latter whose racial ideal is not ours in
the first place would have no reason to prefer our standards
over the Vedic one (any more than manosphere-thumpers can be
persuaded that unmasculine men are the superior men, for
example).
"more problems"
Another problem is that ancestral non-Indians are not classified
by the Vedic caste system at all. This either encourages Hindus
to view Indians as special and fundamentally different from
non-Indians, thereby becoming a bridge to identitarianism, or
else encourages imaginative *coughEurocentristcough*
interpretations such as asserting (as during British rule) that
"whites" are equal to Brahmins whereas "blacks" are equal to
Pariahs.....
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Re: Hinduism
By: Aucontraire Date: August 13, 2025, 3:23 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2813.msg27703#msg27703
date=1725327190]
Similarly, if you view a woman as a goddess, you would just as
obviously not want to have sex with her, because you would
prefer to keep her unchanged.
[/quote]
You think your cock has magic powers to change a woman? You
liken having sex with someone to killing them? What kind of
kinky shit are you doing?
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Re: Hinduism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2025, 6:15 pm
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You must have missed the link I included in the post you quoted:
[quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/telegony/msg22357/#msg22357[/quote]
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Re: Hinduism
By: Aucontraire Date: August 13, 2025, 7:10 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2813.msg30765#msg30765
date=1755126925]
You must have missed the link I included in the post you quoted:
[quote]
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/telegony/msg22357/#msg22357[/quote]
[/quote]
Never heard of a condom!? Or non-penetrative sex?
Also confirmed you do think your cock has magic powers. "The
MOST OBVIOUS source" would just have to be sperm, wouldn't it?
Not any of the other options proposed.
HTML https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/08/15/male-dna-is-often-found-in-womens-brains-where-does-it-come-from/
[quote]During implantation, embryonic cells are programmed to
divide extremely fast and invade the mother�s bloodstream.
Sometimes, they can establish populations in other parts of her
body that survive for the rest of her life.[/quote]
[quote]Now, think about sperm. They�re haploid; they can�t
function like normal human cells. They�re highly specialized,
having evolved solely to compete to get to the egg. They don�t
survive more than a few days, even in the oviduct, which evolved
to store them. And most importantly, they can�t divide.[/quote]
[quote]It�s thought that around half of all pregnancies end in
spontaneous miscarriage, very often before they are
detected.[/quote]
Unlike sperm DNA, fetal cells HAVE been confirmed to live in the
mother's bloodstream and tissues, and they may aid in healing
her and preventing disease.
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Re: Hinduism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2025, 8:03 pm
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"Never heard of a condom!?"
It could malfunction. To even take such a gamble would be
disrespectful. Also, if there is a hymen, I would not want to
damage it.
"Or non-penetrative sex?"
You will have to be more specific.
[quote]During implantation, embryonic cells are programmed to
divide extremely fast and invade the mother�s bloodstream.
Sometimes, they can establish populations in other parts of her
body that survive for the rest of her life.[/quote]
Whatever the mechanism, she has been changed as a consequence of
sex. That is not what we should prefer if we view women as
proposed earlier.
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Re: Hinduism
By: Aucontraire Date: August 13, 2025, 9:52 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan link=topic=2813.msg30769#msg30769
date=1755133413]It could malfunction. To even take such a gamble
would be disrespectful.[/quote]
At exactly what point is the risk so great that it's
"disrespectful"? If you're in her near vicinity your body could
malfunction and faint, causing you to knock into her and injure
her.
[quote]You will have to be more specific.[/quote]
If your argument has changed to "fertilization changes her" then
we could include oral, anal, as well as non-penetrative sex
(such as hand stimulation.)
[quote]Whatever the mechanism, she has been changed as a
consequence of sex. That is not what we should prefer if we view
women as proposed earlier.
[/quote]
As a consequence of fertilization, not sex, which may or may not
result in fertilization, like cuddling may or may not result in
sex.
What a stupid, chauvinistic, and sexphobic way of thinking you
show us. I would feel most respected were my consent and
autonomy respected, not some objectifying "her physical
attributes must be protected" nonsense.
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Re: Hinduism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 13, 2025, 10:15 pm
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"At exactly what point is the risk so great that it's
"disrespectful"? If you're in her near vicinity your body could
malfunction and faint, causing you to knock into her and injure
her."
But if I'm too far away and she faints I would be less likely to
catch her in time, so it's a more complicated calculation.
Whereas scenarios where having sex with a condom is less
dangerous than not having sex at all are much rarer.
"If your argument has changed to "fertilization changes her"
then we could include oral, anal, as well as non-penetrative sex
(such as hand stimulation.)"
My argument hasn't changed (I see you have ignored my hymen
point). I consider all of what you have listed to be
disrespectful (as well as disgusting to my own senses).
"I would feel most respected were my consent and autonomy
respected"
So if you want sex I have to gratify you? What about my consent?
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Re: Hinduism
By: Aucontraire Date: August 14, 2025, 2:48 am
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[quote author=90sRetroFan]Whereas scenarios where having sex
with a condom is less dangerous than not having sex at all are
much rarer.[/quote]
I don't know about that. Sex may offer substantial health
benefits.
Why risk you or your spouse falling dangerously in the first
place? Just sit down. On top of that, your breath could transmit
disease, so perhaps wear face shields too.
[quote]I see you have ignored my hymen point[/quote]
It was boring.
[quote]I consider all of what you have listed to be
disrespectful (as well as disgusting to my own senses).[/quote]
You're probably projecting then.
[quote]So if you want sex I have to gratify you? What about my
consent?[/quote]
What a bizarre strawman. No? Your consent and autonomy are
important too.
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Re: Hinduism
By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 14, 2025, 3:27 am
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"Sex may offer substantial health benefits."
The stated aim is to minimize change, not to pursue health
benefits.
"Your consent and autonomy are important too."
I am glad to hear this. So what is your complaint? All I am
saying is: I do not consent to sex with her.
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Re: Hinduism
By: Aucontraire Date: August 14, 2025, 1:47 pm
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[quote author=90sRetroFan]The stated aim is to minimize change,
not to pursue health benefits.[/quote]
What on earth do you think health is for? Do you think our
immune system just sits there looking pretty?
[quote]I am glad to hear this. So what is your complaint? All I
am saying is: I do not consent to sex with her.[/quote]
Hahahha Now that's just dishonest.
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