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Hinduism
DIR By: SirGalahad
Date: June 26, 2024, 10:40 am
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@90sRetroFan The Aryanism website says that the presence of
Krishna represented predominance of Turanian blood over the
blood of the Solar dynasty, but Krishna’s name means
black/dark/dark blue, and aside from blue, some degree of black
skin seems to be another common color to depict him. What do you
think the significance is of his name and how he’s generally
depicted? Dark skin would make sense for someone of more
aboriginal ancestry, but probably not for a Turanian. Naming
someone after their surface appearance seems a bit crude, so
maybe there was some sort of esoteric or religious significance
and it has nothing to do with ancestry at all, but I’m just
curious
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: June 26, 2024, 6:24 pm
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All references to Krishna from Aryan Diffusion Part 3:
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> Krishna was explictly described as a herder and an archer, as
typical of a Turanian upbringing.
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> The arranger of Neminatha’s marriage in the first place was
none other than his cousin Krishna, a Chandravanshi, suggesting
the rise of Vedic societal position and influence by that time.
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> while Neminatha achieved personal salvation as a renunciant,
Krishna came to predominate over the very society that Neminatha
had renounced.
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> (Thus some later-era accounts re-invent Krishna, formerly
Neminatha’s rival, as subsequently having a change of heart and
becoming Neminatha’s disciple, and hence or otherwise becoming a
rival of Indra (one of the Deva, known for conquering the Dasyu)
instead, preaching against sacrifices and other rituals, as in
the Bhagavat Purana story of the lifting of Govardhan.)
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The first two quotes are my basis for claiming Krishna's
Turanian origin, and can be verified here:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna
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> Krishna is also known by various other names, epithets, and
titles that reflect his many associations and attributes. Among
the most common names are Mohan "enchanter"; Govinda "chief
herdsman"
> ...
> He is sometimes accompanied by cows or a calf, which symbolise
the divine herdsman Govinda.
> ...
> The legends of Krishna's childhood and youth describe him as a
cow-herder
> ...
> the Harivamsa is told in a realistic style that describes
Krishna's life as a poor herder
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_of_Krishna
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> According to Hindu scriptures such as the Mahabharata,
Harivamsa, and the Krishna Charitas, the birth of Krishna took
place in Mathura, in present-day Uttar Pradesh, on the eighth
day of the Krishna Paksha of the Bhadrapada month of the Hindu
calendar, to Vasudeva Anakdundubhi, and his wife Devaki.[1][2]
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasudeva
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> Dynasty
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HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadava
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> The Yadava (lit. 'descended from Yadu'[1][2]) were an
ancient Indian people who believed to be descended from Yadu, a
legendary king of Chandravamsha lineage.
>
> The community was formed of various clans, being the Abhira,
Andhaka, Vrishni, and Satvatas, who all worshipped
Krishna.[3][4][5][6][7]
> ...
> they were Gopas (cowherd) by profession
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HTML https://mahabharat18.quora.com/Who-were-the-best-in-bow-lore-archery-Lord-Krishna-Parasurama-Bhishma-Arjuna-or-Karna
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> (1) Lord Krishna:- I think it is pretty evident that no one
other than Lord Krishna can take the 1st place, right??
>
> Lord Krishna had the strongest bow in the Kurukshetra war
known as the Sarang Dhanush
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So I stand by my assertion that Krishna was Turanian. As for
Krishna's name, while I agree with your etymology, the colour
need not be skin colour. Why not eye colour?
HTML https://www.reddit.com/r/eyes/comments/jb8864/very_dark_blue_eyes/
But even if for the sake of argument we insist it is skin
colour, that could be due to partial non-Turanian ancestry,
which does not negate the rest of his ancesty being Turanian.
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: rp
Date: June 26, 2024, 9:36 pm
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I covered the Yadav caste in the Turanian diffusion thread.
However I will note that present day Yadavs' claims of descent
from the Yaduvanshi are dubious, as the former were purely a
nomadic pastoral caste, while the latter seem to have had some
aristocratic background.
Either way, Krishna worship in its modern form seems to have
some Aryan leanings. For example, the Bhakti movement, which is
mainly centered around Krishna worship, promotes a vegetarian
diet. I also recently visited a Krishna temple (Guruvayurappan)
in New Jersey that serves full vegan food.
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 25, 2024, 10:05 pm
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Contemporary depiction of Krishna:
[Img]
HTML https://www.templepurohit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Lord-Krishna-Hindu-Gods-and-Deities-Iconography-e1437897218326.jpg[/img]
Note the Aryan phenotype. Perhaps Krishna had some Aryan blood?
Or is it merely a post Bhakthi movement reimagining?
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 25, 2024, 10:31 pm
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"Note the Aryan phenotype."
I do not see it.
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 25, 2024, 10:41 pm
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Does not the face appear gracialized?
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 25, 2024, 11:26 pm
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It looks more like reduction. The endomorphy doesn't help
either.
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 26, 2024, 8:05 am
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Ok. Then I would like to know, how you would describe these
faces?:
HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/face-shapes-and-preferences/?message=26465
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 26, 2024, 6:19 pm
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Similar to the above. They definitely represent a different
ideal than the Western one, but that does not imply it is one
that we should be satisfied with.
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Re: Hinduism
DIR By: rp
Date: August 26, 2024, 7:44 pm
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I see what you are saying. The robustness is especially visible
in the heavy cheekbones and lower jaw.
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