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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: July 31, 2021, 10:26 pm
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Family and technology. Such a dangerous combination in the hands
of Western Civiliation. (Note that the scientist is "black",
demonstrating Western Civilization is not only a danger in the
hands of "whites").
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> Joining the ranks of movie inventors like Doc Brown of "Back
to the Future" are a few real-life scientists currently trying
to realize the dream of turning back the clock to travel to the
ultimate destination.
>
> Among them is Ron Mallett, an astrophysicist who has dedicated
much of his adult life to the notion that time travel is
possible. He's come up with the scientific equations and
principles upon which he says a time machine could be created.
>
> While acknowledging that his theories and designs are unlikely
to allow time travel in his lifetime, for years he's been
working in parallel to a respected academic career to fulfill
his dream of venturing back in time to see his beloved father
again.
>
> Mallett was aged 10 when his father died suddenly, of a heart
attack, an event that the scientist says changed the track of
his life forever.
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HTML https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/time-travel-ron-mallett-scn/index.html
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> What is the solution to this then?
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My understanding is that as the universe gets older, there will
be fewer planets and solar systems which have the conditions
necessary for abiogenesis.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 1, 2021, 2:13 am
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The idea of travelling back in time is appealing to people
across the ideological spectrum (including myself!). Many of us
deeply regret failing to do some things correctly in our own
pasts. The wish to travel back in time and rectify our mistakes
springs from this regret (whereas it is those with a dull sense
of guilt who can be expected to have little interest in this).
On a larger scale, anti-progressives wish the world never
progressed to its present conditions, hence dream of turning
time backwards so that all the additional violence etc.
resulting from progress could have never happened. Gnostics in
particular see turning time backwards as one potential solution
to material existence. So it's important not to convey the
impression that we are against time travel in general. When we
do oppose time travel is when it is motivated not by nostalgia
but by desire for exploration.
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> Mallett stumbled across an illustrated version of the classic
sci-fi novel "The Time Machine."
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The H. G. Wells version of time travel is of course motivated by
the latter, as the main character travels forwards in time
rather than backwards. Travelling backwards in time could also
be motivated by desire for exploration if done in such a way as
to deliberately reach destinations in the past but beyond those
which we experienced the first time round.
In Mallett's own case, I would say he is primarily motivated by
nostalgia. What we might think about the content of his
nostalgia is a separate issue. The main problem is not that he
himself wants to travel back in time, but that he wants to do so
by inventing a machine that would also enable potentially anyone
else (hence including those who desire to do time exploration)
to travel in time also. This applies to machines in general:
once invented, potentially anyone can use it, frequently for
objectives we never imagined. So it is not time travel we are
against, but time travel machines.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest55
Date: August 1, 2021, 12:58 pm
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> Family and technology.
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If I'm not mistaken Ray Kurzweil (Jew) of "Transhumanism" fame
also pursues Transhumanism because he misses his farther,
atleast from my understanding that is one of his highest driving
motivators.
Note also about time travel: Isn't it funny how many Westerners
use the "We could stop Hitler from being born" statement when
speaking of time-travel? It always amazes me what Westerners
believe is "evil" and what they believe is "good". In a sane
world everyone would easily see how ass-backwards
Judeo-Westerners really are.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 3, 2021, 11:38 pm
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In-depth AI Karen:
HTML https://lukeoakdenrayner.wordpress.com/2021/08/02/ai-has-the-worst-superpower-medical-racism/<br
/>(long article)
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: August 10, 2021, 6:06 pm
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--- Quote ---
> In Mallett's own case, I would say he is primarily motivated
by nostalgia. What we might think about the content of his
nostalgia is a separate issue. The main problem is not that he
himself wants to travel back in time, but that he wants to do so
by inventing a machine that would also enable potentially anyone
else (hence including those who desire to do time exploration)
to travel in time also. This applies to machines in general:
once invented, potentially anyone can use it, frequently for
objectives we never imagined. So it is not time travel we are
against, but time travel machines.
--- End Quote ---
That is a fair enough distinction.
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> Note also about time travel: Isn't it funny how many
Westerners use the "We could stop Hitler from being born"
statement when speaking of time-travel?
--- End Quote ---
Ironically, a common trope is that removing Hitler makes the
timeline worse, and the "heroes" have to go back further in time
to prevent themselves from killing him in order to undo all the
chaos...
==============
On a different note, Western Civilization has figured out how to
brainwash individuals before they're even born:
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> As a newborn mammal opens its eyes for the first time, it can
already make visual sense of the world around it. But how does
this happen before they have experienced sight?
>
> A new Yale study suggests that, in a sense, mammals dream
about the world they are about to experience before they are
even born.
> [...]
> “This early dream-like activity makes evolutionary sense
because it allows a mouse to anticipate what it will experience
after opening its eyes, and be prepared to respond immediately
to environmental threats,” Crair noted.
>
> Going further, the Yale team also investigated the cells and
circuits responsible for propagating the retinal waves that
mimic forward motion in neonatal mice. They found that blocking
the function of starburst amacrine cells, which are cells in the
retina that release neurotransmitters, prevents the waves from
flowing in the direction that mimics forward motion. This in
turn impairs the development of the mouse’s ability to respond
to visual motion after birth.
> [...]
> “These brain circuits are self-organized at birth and some of
the early teaching is already done,” Crair said. “It’s like
dreaming about what you are going to see before you even open
your eyes.”
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HTML https://news.yale.edu/2021/07/22/eyes-wide-shut-how-newborn-mammals-dream-world-theyre-entering
This experiment was done on newborn mice, but it opens the door
for attempting similar torture being done before they are born.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest55
Date: August 20, 2021, 12:45 pm
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Lab-made mini brains grow their own sets of 'eyes'
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> The 'eyes' are the precursors to the retina.
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HTML https://www.livescience.com/brain-organoid-optic-eyes.html
I grew up understanding the saying: "Just because you can do
something, doesn't necessarily mean you should!".
If Westerners can do something, they will. Regardless of the
consequences further down the road. That's "progress"
after-all....
HTML https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/udgHxYccECDjQTgguhc4yA-970-80.jpg.webp
Westerners will be frying these up and eating them soon enough
I'm sure.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: August 27, 2021, 3:35 pm
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Which nations are going to have access to immortality
technology? And what sort of individuals within those nations
will seek it out and be able to afford it?
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> Sergey Young turns away from the screen, lost in thought for a
second, then gesticulates enthusiastically. “I’m not looking for
immortality, you know, I’m happy with living 200 years,
Realising all my dreams.” It sounds good to me too. He’s 49. I’m
46. Do we really have another 150-odd years to go?
>
> “I do sincerely believe,” he says in English accented by both
the Russia of his birth and of New York, where he works, “that,
20 years from now, the biggest obstacle for us living longer is
not going to be science – it’s gonna be ethics, regulation.”
He’s talking about the rules we will have to put in place to
cope with us all pottering about for centuries – how such
lifespans will affect population, sustainability, the
environment... indeed, how it will change the very essence of
what it means to be human.
>
> Big thoughts, and we’re only a few minutes into our Zoom call.
Young, a venture capitalist who runs the Longevity Vision Fund,
which invests in health-tech companies promising to defeat
ageing, teems with them. Ideas which occupy others for lifetimes
detain him for moments – Big data! AI! Quantum computing! Gene
editing! The microbiome! “I’m an optimistic, idealistic guy,” he
says, optimistically and idealistically.
> [...]
> As he waves his arms, another possible reason for his youthful
demeanour becomes clear: he is plastered in wearable devices –
smart watches and rings which track his heart rate and sleep
patterns. “I just took out my continuous glucose monitor.” His
latest health check-up was just a couple of months ago. “I
didn’t even have the colonoscopy,” he says, deadly serious. “The
combination of full-body MRI and colo guard [an at-home colon
cancer screening kit] was enough…”
> [...]
> Gene editing, organ regeneration and what he calls “longevity
in a pill” are his other great hopes. The first of these, too,
is here today. A renegade Chinese scientist has already created
the first gene-edited humans – twins born in 2018 whose DNA was
tweaked to confer resistance to HIV.
> [...]
> “If we want to help people to fight Alzheimer’s or
neurodegenerative diseases,” he says, “integration between human
brain and computer is the only way to solve it.” He talks of
Elon Musk, whose company Neuralink is working on just such a
“brain-machine interface” with the goal of enabling people with
paralysis to directly use their neural activity to operate
digital devices. He mentions digital representations of the
elderly – “avatars” – which could continue, compos mentis, as
the physical person’s dementia deteriorates, or even live on
after they die.
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HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/would-really-like-live-200/
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> Digitisation, human-robot fusions, what he calls “a
fundamental redefinition of humans” – these are Young’s routes
to ultra-long life, or even to immortality. “Perhaps in your
lifetime,” he writes, “it will become quite commonplace to have
healthy 150-year-olds. By 2100… your grandchildren may very well
be born with no expectation of ever dying.”
--- End Quote ---
If Western Civilization does not die soon, we will have eternal
slavery.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: September 2, 2021, 11:31 am
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The real ethical dilemma isn't that this is being done to human
embryos, it's the double standard that non-humans can be
tortured and killed in experiments at any stage of their life...
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> What’s next for lab-grown human embryos?
>
> Researchers are now permitted to grow human embryos in the lab
for longer than 14 days. Here’s what they could learn.
> [...]
> In May, the International Society for Stem Cell Research
(ISSCR) released new guidelines1 that relaxed the 14-day rule,
taking away the hard barrier. Although only a few labs around
the world have perfected the techniques needed to culture human
embryos up to day 14, the science is advancing rapidly. The
relaxed rule allows lab groups, in countries where it is legal,
to apply to the regulators for permission to continue research
past 14 days. Such studies could reveal what happens during
human development after the embryo would normally have implanted
in the uterus, about a week after fertilization. It then goes
through a stage called gastrulation, roughly between days 14 and
22, when the body’s main pattern emerges and the foundations are
laid for organ generation.
>
> Cracking open a window on these later stages would allow
scientists to better understand the nearly one-third of
pregnancy losses and numerous congenital birth defects thought
to occur at these points in development. In addition, these
stages hold clues to how cells differentiate into tissues and
organs, which could boost regenerative medicine.
>
> Most researchers expect that Brivanlou’s group and a
smattering of others will immediately push the technical
boundary of growing human embryos in the lab for longer
stretches.
--- End Quote ---
HTML https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02343-7
Meanwhile, Westerners think Western civilization is the most
"civilized" and ethical society that has ever existed...
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: Zea_mays
Date: September 2, 2021, 12:25 pm
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For over a decade, scientists have been murdering rats in order
to use their brains to control a robot. (See the links for
videos).
These psychopaths should be executed, along with all those who
are excited by such technology. Can you imagine what the rats
must be experiencing? Their consciousness completely trapped and
helpless as they drives the robot around, desperately trying to
figure out what hellscape the devil has placed them in.
HTML https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/pdiic7/a_robot_to_be_controlled_by_neurons_from_a_rats/
HTML https://www.robotpark.com/academy/robot-with-a-rat-brain-11009/
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 7, 2021, 4:16 am
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"If Westerners can do something, they will."
And if they can't, they will find a way to:
HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/150-old-idea-could-lead-000000248.html
--- Quote ---
> The increasing frequency of both natural and man-made
catastrophes such as worldwide pandemics and climate
catastrophes has re-validated the urgency to establish humanity
as a multi-planet species.
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In other words, because Western civilization has made Earth
increasingly dangerous to live in, whereas the sane answer is to
end Western civilization ASAP, the Western answer is to expand
Western civilization to other planets. Who writes this ****?
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> Conventional spaceships burn rocket fuel to achieve escape
velocities, maneuver, and even land, in the case of SpaceX
rockets. But what if you could build a spaceship that runs
entirely on electricity?
>
> That's exactly what the Mach Effect Gravity Assist (MEGA)
drive does.
>
> Jim Woodward, a physics professor emeritus at California State
University, Fullerton, and Hal Fearn, a physicist at Fullerton,
have developed the Mach Effect Gravity Assist (MEGA) Drive
propulsion based on what they say is peer-reviewed, technically
credible physics.
>
> With the help of a NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC)
grant, the two scientists have developed MEGA Drive based on the
physics described in Einstein's theory of relativity. MEGA
Drive--which is showing excellent promise in early testing and
is already in phase two testing--is pretty much the holy grail
of space travel and space science because it could power not
only local travel within our solar system, but also interstellar
travel that is currently undoable using available technologies.
>
> So, how does MEGA Drive work?
> ...
> The MEGA Drive works by making a stack of piezoelectric
crystals alternately heavier and lighter by applying electric
current to them.
> ...
> By making an object heavier one instant and lighter the next,
you can create thrust by using the very same Newtonian
every-reaction-causes-an-equal-and-opposite-reaction principle
used by rocket engines by throwing matter behind them to move
forward.
>
> MEGA Drive's main kicker: Unlike a conventional rocket that
ejects burnt gases to create thrust, the MEGA Drive does not
permanently lose its energy-producing crystals by actually
throwing them away; You simply push them when heavy, and pull
them back when light, thus creating momentum to move forward.
>
> "If you now have a double frequency mechanical oscillation,
you can push on it when it's more massive and pull it back when
it's less massive. You've got propelling, but you don't have to
throw it over and say goodbye. You get to throw it over when
it's more massive and then because of this interaction with this
inertial gravitational field, you can let it become less massive
and then pull it back in," says Woodward.
>
> Woodward says each Mach Effect drive unit can generate about a
hundred millinewtons of force. As currently built, the Mach
Effect engines are six-centimeter cubes just over two inches per
side. By making them more efficient, Woodward says you'd get
more power from each. And, by stacking as many of them as you
want on your ship, you can generate enough forward momentum to
power your ship.
>
> Then it's just a question of how much electricity you can feed
the drives, with a nuclear power plant mooted as a possible
source of electricity.
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The Western answer to all problems created by Western
civilization is more Western civilization. Therefore, the more
harm Western civilization causes, the stronger the motivation by
Westerners to continue it. This is why there is no reasoning
possible with progressives.
The only to stop Western civilization is to stop all like
Woodward from being born in the first place. This is why we need
state control over reproduction.
Eugenicists, in contrast, want more like Woodward being born:
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