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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: July 22, 2021, 2:39 pm
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       How AI is driving a future of autonomous warfare
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       > The artificial intelligence revolution is just getting
       started. But it is already transforming conflict. Militaries all
       the way from the superpowers to tiny states are seizing on
       autonomous weapons as essential to surviving the wars of the
       future. But this mounting arms-race dynamic could lead the world
       to dangerous places, with algorithms interacting so fast that
       they are beyond human control. Uncontrolled escalation, even
       wars that erupt without any human input at all.
       >
       > DW maps out the future of autonomous warfare, based on
       conflicts we have already seen – and predictions from experts of
       what will come next.
       >
       > For more on the role of technology in future wars, check out
       the extended version of this video – which includes a
       blow-by-blow scenario of a cyber attack against nuclear weapons
       command and control systems:
  HTML https://youtu.be/TmlBkW6ANsQ
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpwHszy7bMk
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 22, 2021, 8:06 pm
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       EU Commission selects Human Brain Project, with Israelis as
       partners
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       >
       > The European Commission has chosen the Human Brain Project, in
       which the Hebrew University of Jerusalem is participating, as
       one of two Future and Emerging Technologies Flagship topics. The
       enterprise will receive funding of 1.19 billion euros over the
       next decade.
       >
       > The project will bring together top scientists from around the
       world who will work on one of the great challenges of modern
       science: understanding the human brain. Participating from
       Israel will a team of eight scientists, led by Prof. Idan Segev
       of the Edmond and Lily Safra Center for Brain Sciences (ELSC) at
       the Hebrew University, Prof. Yadin Dudai of the Weizmann
       Institute of Science, and Dr. Mira Marcus-Kalish of Tel Aviv
       University.
       >
       > One major purpose of the Human Brain Project is to collate
       information about the brain from various advanced research
       approaches and make it possible to build models of brain
       activity through the use of powerful supercomputers. This will
       enable the attainment of a deeper understanding of the brain and
       its illnesses, and at the same time make possible development of
       powerful computer technologies and brain-driven robotics.
       >
       > More than 80 universities and research institutions in Europe
       and the world will be involved in the ten-year Human Brain
       Project, which will commence later this year and operate until
       the year 2023. The project will be centered at the Ecole
       Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne (EPFL) in Switzerland, headed
       by Prof. Henry Markram, a former Israeli who was recruited ten
       years ago to the EPFL.
       >
       >
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       You weren't exaggerating when you said destroying Israel alone
       would greatly reduce technical proficiency, huh
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       Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
   DIR By: Zea_mays
       Date: July 26, 2021, 11:38 am
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       205 billion dollars can't buy him any sense.
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       > Jeff Bezos said in an interview hours after flying to
       suborbital space on Tuesday that there are "no words" to
       adequately describe the experience, but that it reinforced his
       commitment to combatting climate change and keeping Earth "as
       this beautiful gem of a planet that it is."
       >
       > Why it matters: Bezos, the world's richest man, said he plans
       to make Blue Origin and the Bezos Earth Fund — a $10 billion
       effort to fight climate change — his life focus moving forward.
       > [...]
       > What he's saying: "We have to build a road to space so our
       kids can build a future," Bezos, who successfully traveled to
       space on a Blue Origin flight alongside his brother and two
       other passengers, told MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle.
       > [...]
       > "We need to take all heavy industry, all polluting industry,
       and move it into space. And keep Earth as this beautiful gem of
       a planet that it is. That's going to take decades to achieve,
       but you have to start. And big things start with small steps."
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.axios.com/bezos-space-flight-climate-change-cd9e2c36-63d2-4dcd-a4b5-94c0cb03a896.html
       Imagine, for a brief moment, all the pollution it would take to
       actually transport heavy industry into space, constantly
       transport raw materials, and then transport the products back to
       Earth (and then fly the empty transport ship back into space)...
       Bezos and Western Civilization need to be destroyed immediately.
       The $10 billion he is going to invest into nonsensical
       sustainability propaganda is going to do incalculable harm to
       the environmentalist movement.
       The majority of comments on the article are pointing out the
       obvious. This will probably change after Bezos starts his "Earth
       Fund" propaganda, which I imagine will be really effective (just
       look at how megalomaniac Elon Musk has been very successful in
       the PR department just by posting memes or something).
  HTML https://twitter.com/axios/status/1417518650081349633
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       > Seriously..so were going to shoot to destroy outer space as we
       have the Earth
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  HTML https://twitter.com/iliffe_peggy/status/1417519175724044299
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       > Or we could get rid of polluting industry? 🤔
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  HTML https://twitter.com/smarterthanzeus/status/1417519226756100098
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       > How is that a solution?
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  HTML https://twitter.com/tiredlori/status/1417519287678480389
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       > "Let's stop polluting Earth. Let's look at the bigger picture
       and pollute space instead" is a weird flex.
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  HTML https://twitter.com/twinsthings/status/1417519487608397825
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       > Glad to hear that unlike the Apollo astronauts who saw the
       Earth from space and reflected poetically that all of our
       squabbling seemed so silly, the ultracapitalist went to space
       and immediately decided that we should pollute it
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  HTML https://twitter.com/MasterOverlord3/status/1417522382613401605
       I had to scroll down 100s of comments to see someone state the
       most important fact:
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       > Space is already polluted.
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  HTML https://twitter.com/CitizenMom47/status/1417522696339005441
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       > As of October 2019, the US Space Surveillance Network reported
       nearly 20,000 artificial objects in orbit above the Earth,[8]
       including 2,218 operational satellites.[9] However, these are
       just the objects large enough to be tracked. As of January 2019,
       more than 128 million pieces of debris smaller than 1 cm (0.4
       in), about 900,000 pieces of debris 1–10 cm, and around 34,000
       of pieces larger than 10 cm (3.9 in) were estimated to be in
       orbit around the Earth.[7] When the smallest objects of
       artificial space debris (paint flecks, solid rocket exhaust
       particles, etc.) are grouped with micrometeoroids, they are
       together sometimes referred to by space agencies as MMOD
       (Micrometeoroid and Orbital Debris). Collisions with debris have
       become a hazard to spacecraft; the smallest objects cause damage
       akin to sandblasting, especially to solar panels and optics like
       telescopes or star trackers that cannot easily be protected by a
       ballistic shield.[10]
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  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: Zea_mays
       Date: July 26, 2021, 12:03 pm
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       Welp, they are already beginning to decode what bird's
       brainwaves mean, and can use AI algorithms to reconstruct a
       bird's song using its brainwaves. How long until they can do
       this to humans? Human's vocal muscles probably move in sync with
       our thoughts, similar to the birds.
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       > “We are moving away from focusing completely on the brain and
       neurons, and also paying attention to biomechanics, where the
       information of the nervous system is processed,” says Doppler.
       “This is a powerful idea. In some cases, looking at the
       biomechanics can give you insights that are not so clear in the
       nervous system.”
       > [...]
       > In the second study, a team led by Alan Bush, also a physicist
       in Mindlin’s group, found that they could manipulate the birds
       into flexing their vocal muscles by playing them versions of
       their own songs while they slept—a form of harmonic hypnosis.
       Bush was eager to study the patterns of how muscles actually
       fired in slumber. To him, the vocal organ is not just a puppet
       carrying out the brain’s set of master instructions—rather, it’s
       a creative liaison between brain and behavior that may add its
       own bells and whistles to the final product. “A lot of the
       complexity of the system is actually coming from the periphery,
       where the muscles are,” he explains.
       >
       > Bush and his colleagues discovered that when the muscles are
       coaxed into activity, they behave in an all-or-nothing fashion.
       When played snippets of themselves trilling out tunes, the
       birds’ muscles would reliably twitch. Even synthetic versions of
       these songs, remixed in the lab, could sometimes elicit vocal
       organ responses. Often, the muscles were still—but when they
       were goaded into flexing, they would carry out the complete
       firing sequence of a vocalization.
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  HTML https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/zebra-finches-dream-little-dream-melody-180969925/
  HTML https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/TuXLN4ZY94_x7HRz20S-3kfZ-VA=/1024x596/https://public-media.si-cdn.com/filer/f4/12/f4126eac-da79-493a-b965-5b6f8ad62026/fig-1-2x.png
       This study describes an AI algorithm they used to be able to
       'decode' a bird's brainwaves into a song. (At the end of the
       paper there are sound files demonstrating the algorithm).
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       > Songbirds are an attractive model for learned complex vocal
       behavior. Birdsong shares a number of unique similarities with
       human speech and its study has yielded general insight into
       multiple mechanisms and circuits behind learning, execution, and
       maintenance of vocal motor skill. In addition, the biomechanics
       of song production bear similarity to those of humans and some
       nonhuman primates. Here, we demonstrate a vocal synthesizer for
       birdsong, realized by mapping neural population activity
       recorded from electrode arrays implanted in the premotor nucleus
       HVC onto low-dimensional compressed representations of song,
       using simple computational methods that are implementable in
       real time. Using a generative biomechanical model of the vocal
       organ (syrinx) as the low-dimensional target for these mappings
       allows for the synthesis of vocalizations that match the bird’s
       own song. These results provide proof of concept that
       high-dimensional, complex natural behaviors can be directly
       synthesized from ongoing neural activity.
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  HTML https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(21)00733-8
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       Of course, who needs to read thoughts when they can just make
       everything up in order to frame or discredit an individual.
       First, Western Civilization gave us machine algorithms to make
       "deepfakes", then it made machine algorithms to detect
       "deepfakes", and next someone will study the detector's
       algorithm to make new algorithms that are undetectable by it. Or
       just bribe whichever companies own the detector algorithms to
       'certify' whether a fake thing is real or a real thing is fake.
  HTML https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/1007472092/facebook-researchers-say-they-can-detect-deepfakes-and-where-they-came-from
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: July 26, 2021, 11:54 pm
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       > Multiple mechanisms and circuits behind learning, execution,
       and maintenance of vocal motor skill.
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       Machine minds! More scientist types need to get some intestinal
       fortitude and speak up and out against the Western materialist
       worldview of their fellow's who hold such views, especially in
       academia. Many seem to believe the materialist Western worldview
       is coming to an end, but I wonder how this will happen if so few
       scientists who oppose the materialist worldview do not speak out
       against it before it's too late?
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       > According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%)
       believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33%
       of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a
       universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans
       believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a
       survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research
       Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten
       Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a
       universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of
       scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do
       not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the
       public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
  HTML https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/550420-Karen-Marie-Moning-Quote-Silence-isn-t-golden-it-s-deadly-It-s-a.jpg
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 28, 2021, 8:04 pm
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       In case you aren't familiar:
       [Img]
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Cloning_diagram_english.svg/1200px-Cloning_diagram_english.svg.png[/img]
       So merely eliminating the reproductive potential (gametes) of
       our enemies is not enough; our enemies can still clone
       themselves using somatic cells. And eliminating cloning ability
       requires eliminating our enemies for good, which will be harder
       if our enemies develop life extension technology. And even then,
       the sentient machines developed by our enemies can simply
       extract the DNA and pick up where our enmies left off...
       I am losing hope in Western Civilization dying within my
       lifetime day by day...
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 29, 2021, 9:29 am
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       Continuing from my earlier post, even if we are able to
       eliminate the DNA of our enemies, along with eliminating those
       with the capability to synthesize such DNA (i.e. sentient
       machines), the Demiurge can still create our enemies from
       scratch, by creating environments that are conducive to the
       chemical formation of organic compounds (e.g. DNA). After all,
       this was most likely how life itself began in the first place:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
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       >
       > In evolutionary biology, abiogenesis, or informally the origin
       of life (OoL),[3][4][5][a] is the natural process by which life
       has arisen from non-living matter, such as simple organic
       compounds.[6][4][7][8] While the details of this process are
       still unknown, the prevailing scientific hypothesis is that the
       transition from non-living to living entities was not a single
       event, but an evolutionary process of increasing complexity that
       involved molecular self-replication, self-assembly,
       autocatalysis, and the emergence of cell membranes.[9][10][11]
       Although the occurrence of abiogenesis is uncontroversial among
       scientists, its possible mechanisms are poorly understood. There
       are several principles and hypotheses for how abiogenesis could
       have occurred.[12]
       >
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  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Miller-Urey_experiment-en.svg/390px-Miller-Urey_experiment-en.svg.png
       What is the solution to this then?
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: July 29, 2021, 5:39 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > What is the solution to this then?
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       Well, according to Heidegger:
  HTML https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/951756-Martin-Heidegger-Quote-Only-a-god-can-save-us.jpg
       Either that, or win the war of ideas. Winning the war of ideas
       is possible for a small committed group lest we forget:
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 30, 2021, 3:37 pm
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       Keith Gottesdiener (Jew) and David Schenkein (Jew) of Google
       Ventures discuss gene editing:
  HTML https://youtu.be/GYQIU5pyjtw
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 31, 2021, 12:06 am
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       Plumbing system of SpaceX booster rocket:
  HTML https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/tydzFKCHHWHGxfvbaCEiw6.jpg
       The very sight of complex machinery fills me with disgust.
       Imagine how much energy was expended in manufacturing such a
       monstrosity. In fact, seeing such complex machinery itself was
       enough to frighten me as a child, and I am still traumatized by
       such experiences.
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