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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 13, 2021, 10:33 pm
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And then there's this **** to worry about:
HTML https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/google-and-levi-s-are-weaving-computers-into-your-clothes/ar-BB1fBKnH
[quote]Project Jacquard is an effort to invisibly incorporate
computers into objects, materials, and clothing. Everyday items
such as sweaters, jackets, and furniture will be turned into
interactive surfaces that can be used as trackpads, buttons and
more. The objects will receive information directly from the
surface of the material used to build them, eliminating the need
for bulky plastic or metal parts. The objects will then transmit
information to a nearby smartphone or computer using low-powered
Wi-Fi.[/quote]
Of course:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_Strauss
[quote]Levi Strauss made jeans. He was born to an Ashkenazi
Jewish family[/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stern_(businessman)
[quote]David Stern (1820–1875) was a German-born American
businessman who helped to found Levi Strauss & Co. with his
brother-in-law Levi Strauss.
...
David Stern was born to a Jewish family
...
In 1850, he married Fanny Strauss, the sister of Levi Strauss in
New York.[1] They had 8 children: Jacob and Caroline (both born
in New York); and Henry, Sigmund, Louis, Harriet "Hattie",
Abraham, and Lillian (all born in San Francisco).[1] He was a
member of the Eureka Benevolent Society (later the Jewish Family
Service) and Congregation Emanu-El.[1] Two of his sons married
sisters, the daughters of Lazard Frères head Marc Eugene Meyer:
his son, Sigmund Stern, married Rosalie Meyer; and his son
Abraham Stern, married, Elise Meyer.[2][3] Sigmund's only child,
Elise, married Walter A. Haas, the son of Abraham Haas, whose
descendants are the current owners of Levi Strauss &
Co.[4][/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_E._Haas
[quote]Haas was born to a Jewish family in San Francisco,[2] one
of three children of Walter A. Haas and Elise Stern.[3] Haas was
the great-grandnephew of Levi Strauss, the founder of denim
manufacturer Levi Strauss & Co. and great grandson of David
Stern.[/quote]
etc.
And for the sake of completeness:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Page
[quote]Lawrence Edward Page[3][4][5] (born March 26, 1973) is an
American computer scientist and Internet entrepreneur. He is
best known as one of the co-founders of Google along with Sergey
Brin.[3][6]
...
Page was born on March 26, 1973,[18] in Lansing,
Michigan.[19][20] His mother is Jewish;[21] his maternal
grandfather later immigrated to Israel.[20][/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin
[quote]Sergey Mikhaylovich Brin (Russian:
Серге́й
Миха́йлов&#
1080;ч
Брин, tr. Sergéj Mixájlovič Brin;
born August 21, 1973) is an American computer scientist and
Internet entrepreneur. Together with Larry Page, he co-founded
Google. Brin was the president of Google's parent company,
Alphabet Inc., until stepping down from the role on December 3,
2019.[2] He and Page remain at Alphabet as co-founders,
controlling shareholders, board members, and employees.
...
Brin was born on August 21, 1973, in Moscow in the Soviet
Union,[4] to Jewish parents,[5][/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Porat
[quote]Ruth Porat (born 1958) is a British-American business
executive, serving since 2015 as the chief financial officer
(CFO) of Alphabet Inc. and its subsidiary Google.[3][4][5]
...
Porat was born to a Jewish family[8][/quote]
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: guest5 Date: April 16, 2021, 1:08 am
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[quote]Critical scholars who follow the documentary hypothesis
propose that those parts of the Torah attributed to the Elohist
seem to treat Levite as a descriptive attribute for someone
particularly suited to the priesthood, rather than as a firm
designation of a tribe, and feel that Moses and Aaron are being
portrayed as part of the Joseph group rather than being part of
a tribe called Levi.[4] Jahwist passages have more ambiguous
language; traditionally interpreted as referring to a person
named Levi, they could also be interpreted as just referring to
a social position titled levi.[5]
In the Blessing of Jacob, Levi is treated as a tribe, cursing
them to become scattered; critics regard this as an aetiological
postdiction to explain how a tribe could be so scattered, the
simpler solution being that the priesthood was originally open
to any tribe, but gradually became seen as a distinct tribe to
themselves.[5][6] The Priestly source and the Blessing of Moses,
which critical scholars view as originating centuries later,
portray the Levites firmly established as a tribe, and as the
only tribe with the right to become priests. [/quote]
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Levi
Furthermore: Does the fact that some "blacks" are foolish enough
to want to be Jews make the Old Testament any less devilish?
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: guest5 Date: April 30, 2021, 1:28 am
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Space Force Is Totally Serious, Stop Laughing | The Couch Report
[quote]Greg Walters muses on hugging satellites, the urge for
countries to kill each other in space, and one particularly wild
plan to nuke the moon.[/quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwIRWqgmmTE
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: May 3, 2021, 8:46 pm
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HTML https://twitter.com/RealLifeStarman/status/1385705440160337922?s=19
[quote]
“We need to have a big permanently occupied base on the moon,
and then build a city on Mars and become a spacefaring
civilization. We don’t want to be one of those single planet
species, we want to be a multi-planetary species.” —
@ElonMusk
HTML https://t.co/RvMPqb15kO
[/quote]
Not if we kill you first.
BTW, what is your opinion on non-Western countries such as
China, India, etc trying to develop more advanced machinery than
the West in terms of AI, genetic splicing, etc?
On the one hand, I do not like that they are trying to emulate
Westerners, but on the other hand, I believe this is somewhat of
a self defense mechanism in their part, as they could keep the
West from gaining an upper hand technologically and thus keep
them from developing even more advanced technology .
They could do this by leveraging their control of greater amount
of natural resources against the West, in effect preventing
Westerners from acquiring the resources needed to develop the
more advanced technology. This could be a backup plan if
Demographic Blueshift fails.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2021, 10:19 pm
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"what is your opinion on non-Western countries such as China,
India, etc trying to develop more advanced machinery than the
West in terms of AI, genetic splicing, etc?"
If they were attempting to develop more advanced machines in
order to destroy the West once and for all, following which no
more machines need be developed ever after, I would support
them.
But I fear that is not their intent. Rather, they are attempting
to develop more advanced machines in order to not be outpaced by
the West in a machinery race that they, having accepted the
worldview of progressivism, envision will go on indefinitely
into the future. This I do not support.
This is why I am at present pessimistic (though I would love to
be wrong) about the effectiveness of persuading enough people to
conscientiously stop the development of machines. For now, I
believe the only way to be sure is to use demographic shift to
make humanity as a whole incapable of developing machines.
"They could do this by leveraging their control of greater
amount of natural resources against the West, in effect
preventing Westerners from acquiring the resources needed to
develop the more advanced technology."
This will only work for a while. Sooner or later there will
arise new types of machines that do not require those particular
resources, at which point the resource-hoarders will suddenly
find themselves outmanouevered.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: May 3, 2021, 10:38 pm
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"This is why I am at present pessimistic (though I would love to
be wrong) about the effectiveness of persuading enough people to
conscientiously stop the development of machines. For now, I
believe the only way to be sure is to use demographic shift to
make humanity as a whole incapable of developing machines."
To be clear, you are referring to Aryanization, and not just
Demographic Blueshift, correct?
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2021, 10:55 pm
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Aryans would be the ones who conscientiously refuse to develop
machines even if they had the ability to do so. I am almost
certain Aryanization will not occur fast enough to prevent
Kurzweil's plan (see first post in this topic). A more realistic
demographic hope - one that can occur fast enough - is for
society to lose the technical proficiency required to implement
Kurzweil's plan.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: May 3, 2021, 11:12 pm
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"is for society to lose the technical proficiency required to
implement Kurzweil's plan"
So if Demographic Blueshift selects for lower technical
proficiency but not necessarily Aryan traits, then wouldn't
Western Civilization still have a chance of surviving? Recall
that many "non-Whites" in Western countries with low technical
proficiency still uphold Western Civilization in many ways,
chiefly via reproductive Eurocentrism.
Or is it just that in your estimation, dealing with a problem
such as reproductive Eurocentrism is far easier without the
existence of advanced machinery, and hence the machine makers
should be targeted first?
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 3, 2021, 11:56 pm
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"if Demographic Blueshift selects for lower technical
proficiency"
I'm not even sure that it does directly. But the Woke reforms in
education (which are driven by it) might help somewhat. Most
importantly, however, Demographic Blueshift allows the US
military to be used against Israel. Just destroying Israel would
lower technical proficiency to a greater degree than any other
realistic single action we could take.
"wouldn't Western Civilization still have a chance of
surviving?"
It would.
"Recall that many "non-Whites" in Western countries with low
technical proficiency still uphold Western Civilization in many
ways, chiefly via reproductive Eurocentrism."
I agree. And in non-Western countries too!
"Or is it just that in your estimation, dealing with a problem
such as reproductive Eurocentrism is far easier without the
existence of advanced machinery, and hence the machine makers
should be targeted first?"
This.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
By: rp Date: May 4, 2021, 12:43 am
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"I'm not even sure that it does directly. But the Woke reforms
in education (which are driven by it) might help somewhat. Most
importantly, however, Demographic Blueshift allows the US
military to be used against Israel. Just destroying Israel would
lower technical proficiency to a greater degree than any other
realistic single action we could take."
So if lowering technically proficiency is not necessarily
contingent on Demographic Blueshift selecting for the trait,
then in that case, would you agree that we shouldn't necessarily
encourage an immigration policy that actively selects for low
technical proficiency per se?
The ignoble immigrants with low technical proficiency, for
example, will view other "non-Whites" with high technical
proficiency as their competitors and will fight with them.
Ignoble "Blacks" for example, would view all "Asians" (who may
or may not be ignoble) as evil for occupying major positions in
the high-tech sector in disproportionately high numbers relative
to their population, due to the fact that immigrants of
low-technical proficiency now outnumber immigrants of high
technical proficiency. While this problem already exists to a
certain extent, actively selecting for low technical proficiency
would exacerbate it.
In turn, this will allow "Whites" to point the finger at
"Asians" and away from themselves (and Jews), in effect
nullifying any chances of destroying Israel. Not only that, but
the ignoble "Blacks" will become more open to embracing high
technical proficiency as the "Whites" can now convince them the
development of more machines is in their (Eurocentric)
reproductive interest!
Indeed, we find that by actively selecting for low-technical
proficiency, the average technical proficiency might actually
end up being raised in the process!
Contrast this to an immigration policy that neither actively
selects for nor actively discriminates against low technical
proficiency but which instead simply selects for non-Westerners
broadly, thus balancing out the number of migrants from each
ethnicity, thereby precluding (or at the very least mitigating
the possibility of) inter-ethnic conflict between "non-Whites".
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