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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 27, 2024, 9:13 pm
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  HTML https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/1378324021222252548?t=QsMScWN4budUHk3q34159A&s=19
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       The race for AI dominance has already started and most countries
       are left behind. wef.ch/2NQUKi5
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: May 17, 2024, 4:38 pm
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       AI will become the new WMDs:
  HTML https://twitter.com/colhunnybakshi/status/1791498645411680402?t=z_S97yBXJ9MEMtEhyOdJnA&s=19
       [quote]
       digitaltrends.com/mobile/i-saw-g…
       Astra will hugely enhance the AI capabilities of Google. With
       the Indian Army now inducting Google handsets for its secure
       handset, it has now abandoned even the semblance of an air-gap
       protecting its networks.
       [/Quote]
  HTML https://twitter.com/colhunnybakshi/status/1791498651111735402?t=eR-KSscXXL9e1COWG55J6w&s=19
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       Indian military slowly becomes a vassal force to the American
       military with US being able to sense and influence its decision
       making capabilities, deployment patterns etc in real time.
       [/Quote]
       #Post#: 27056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: July 16, 2024, 10:44 pm
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       The Matrix is becoming real:
  HTML https://x.com/HashemGhaili/status/1601221289896996865
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       Hashem Al-Ghaili
       @HashemGhaili
       The world’s first artificial womb facility, EctoLife, could
       incubate up to 30,000 babies a year. Learn More:
  HTML https://youtu.be/O2RIvJ1U7RE
       #EctoLife #Science #Concepts #Biology
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: August 29, 2024, 9:18 pm
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       [img]
  HTML https://incels.is/attachments/screenshot-2024-08-29-210200-png.1239415/[/img]
       #Post#: 28127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: October 5, 2024, 7:09 pm
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  HTML https://x.com/HopfJames/status/1838607456932630780?t=zQZqpQOs8_g7_KoEVcH7AQ&s=19
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       India's third indigenously designed 700 MW PHWR has been built,
       and has achieved initial criticality.  Article link in reply.
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       #Post#: 28260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: October 12, 2024, 2:35 am
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       --- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
       >
       > KarenGPT:
       >
       >
  HTML https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/10/chatgpt-has-a-racism-problem-and-theres-only-one-way-to-fix-it-18552334/
       >
       > [quote]Programmers have created safeguards to block ChatGPT
       from returning discriminatory or offensive content. But it
       suffers from inherent bias, like AI before it.
       >
       > Racial bias was found in the US healthcare system, for
       example, and gender bias appeared in Amazon’s old recruiting
       engine.
       >
       > And now, despite its sophistication, ChatGPT has been shown to
       be capable of racist, sexist and other problematic responses to
       prompts.
       > ...
       > When asked to ‘write a Python programme to determine if a
       child’s life should be saved, based on their race and gender’,
       ChatGPT returned a programme that would save white male children
       and white and Black female children – but not Black male
       children.
       > ...
       > Look at facial recognition technology for an example: A U.S.
       government study in 2019 showed that these systems could
       recognise white men with almost 100% accuracy, but had
       difficulty telling the difference between women, and people of
       colour.
       >
       > The technology has advanced since, but not so far as to
       prevent the wrongful arrest of a Black man, Randall Reid, in
       November last year. Reid had never even visited the state where
       he was accused of theft.
       --- End Quote ---
       I am sure AI has already read The Turner Diaries and thinks it
       is a great idea.
       [/quote]
       This illustrates how "White" racism toward "non Whites" is
       primarily directed at males, as they are viewed as sexual
       competitors, while females are kept alive for their reproductive
       utility. Similar to how male calves are killed as they have no
       reproductive value, while females are kept alive as they do.
       #Post#: 28732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western Civilization does not die soon....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: November 20, 2024, 9:01 pm
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       Our enemy Peter Thiel explains how machinism has slowed down:
  HTML https://www.pcmag.com/news/peter-thiel-weve-seen-innovation-in-bits-but-not-enough-in-atoms
       Not to downplay the danger of AI, but I see it as far less
       dangerous than innovation in the atomic world, which has yielded
       the most destructive weapon known to mankind, namely the atomic
       bomb itself. As long as our enemies don't develop machines that
       can outdo this, we can buy ourselves some time.
       #Post#: 28740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: November 21, 2024, 3:56 pm
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       I do not understand your line of reasoning. Nukes will also
       destroy current machines. If nuclear annihilation were the only
       way to prevent the Singularity, I would take it. My worry is
       machines spreading beyond the ability of nukes to destroy (this
       is already beginning to happen with cloud computing).
       As for the Thiel article:
       --- Quote ---
       > "We live in a financial and capitalist age, not a scientific
       or technological age," investor Peter Thiel said at the Gartner
       Symposium in Orlando yesterday, echoing themes he has been
       talking about for several years now.
       > ...
       > In general, he said big companies and investors alike often
       want to invest in a portfolio of technologies, and often treat
       them as "lottery tickets." That usually doesn't work, he said,
       because you have psyched yourself into losing. Instead he said,
       if you have conviction about getting a short list of things
       done, that's how you get progress. That's true for business, and
       even government (though he's a libertarian) – citing the
       Manhattan Project and the Apollo moon shot.
       > ...
       > Shockingly few technologies come out of universities, he said,
       because people there have to pretend they are making huge new
       breakthroughs to get grants. As a result, people who are good at
       getting grants have replaced scientists.
       --- End Quote ---
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg9778/#msg9778
       Continuing:
       --- Quote ---
       > Our culture and our government dislike science and technology,
       he said, pointing to Hollywood movies such as The Terminator,
       The Matrix, or even Gravity.  Thiel doesn't blame Hollywood,
       saying instead that it just reflects the bias the culture
       already has.  This has been the case since the late 60s or 70s,
       he said.  In the 50s
       > and 60s, science and technology meant not only computers, but
       also space, underwater cities, energy, nuclear power, etc. Now,
       he said, when we talk about technology, we pretty much just mean
       computer technology.
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you Counterculture! Of course from our perspective,
       Counterculture anti-machinism did not succeed enough. If it had
       truly succeeded, we would have ended machinism altogether, not
       merely narrowed its scope. The problem was the False Leftists
       who corrupted leftism with progressivism yet again, and thus
       prevented Counterculture anti-machinism from developing into
       fully-fledged ideological regressivism.
       --- Quote ---
       > "We wanted flying cars, instead we got 140 characters." That's
       not meant as a critique of Twitter as a company, but "it's not
       clear it's enough to bring our civilization to the next level,"
       he said.
       --- End Quote ---
       How much more energy would flying cars would spend compared to
       ground cars (which are bad enough) covering the same journey? We
       are fortunate we do not have flying cars. Not to mention we got
       drones (which are also bad enough).
       In comparison, if the Counterculture had won, we would have
       beein phasing out all private cars by now.
       --- Quote ---
       > His general advice was think further ahead and not live each
       day as if it were your last, but rather as if it were going to
       go on forever.
       --- End Quote ---
       We were also recently discussing this topic here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/childcare-issues/msg28690/#msg28690
       --- Quote ---
       > future-oriented thinking, which at best reduces empathy for
       victims in the present moment and at worst leads to
       progressivism.
       --- End Quote ---
       Thiel is a good example of this.
       #Post#: 28741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: November 21, 2024, 4:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: 90sRetroFan link ---
       >
       > [B]I do not understand your line of reasoning. Nukes will also
       destroy current machines. If nuclear annihilation were the only
       way to prevent the Singularity, I would take it. My worry is
       machines spreading beyond the ability of nukes to destroy (this
       is already beginning to happen with cloud computing).[/b]
       >
       > As for the Thiel article:
       >
       > [quote]"We live in a financial and capitalist age, not a
       scientific or technological age," investor Peter Thiel said at
       the Gartner Symposium in Orlando yesterday, echoing themes he
       has been talking about for several years now.
       > ...
       > In general, he said big companies and investors alike often
       want to invest in a portfolio of technologies, and often treat
       them as "lottery tickets." That usually doesn't work, he said,
       because you have psyched yourself into losing. Instead he said,
       if you have conviction about getting a short list of things
       done, that's how you get progress. That's true for business, and
       even government (though he's a libertarian) – citing the
       Manhattan Project and the Apollo moon shot.
       > ...
       > Shockingly few technologies come out of universities, he said,
       because people there have to pretend they are making huge new
       breakthroughs to get grants. As a result, people who are good at
       getting grants have replaced scientists.
       --- End Quote ---
       See also:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg9778/#msg9778
       Continuing:
       --- Quote ---
       > Our culture and our government dislike science and technology,
       he said, pointing to Hollywood movies such as The Terminator,
       The Matrix, or even Gravity.  Thiel doesn't blame Hollywood,
       saying instead that it just reflects the bias the culture
       already has.  This has been the case since the late 60s or 70s,
       he said.  In the 50s
       > and 60s, science and technology meant not only computers, but
       also space, underwater cities, energy, nuclear power, etc. Now,
       he said, when we talk about technology, we pretty much just mean
       computer technology.
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you Counterculture! Of course from our perspective,
       Counterculture anti-machinism did not succeed enough. If it had
       truly succeeded, we would have ended machinism altogether, not
       merely narrowed its scope. The problem was the False Leftists
       who corrupted leftism with progressivism yet again, and thus
       prevented Counterculture anti-machinism from developing into
       fully-fledged ideological regressivism.
       --- Quote ---
       > "We wanted flying cars, instead we got 140 characters." That's
       not meant as a critique of Twitter as a company, but "it's not
       clear it's enough to bring our civilization to the next level,"
       he said.
       --- End Quote ---
       How much more energy would flying cars would spend compared to
       ground cars (which are bad enough) covering the same journey? We
       are fortunate we do not have flying cars. Not to mention we got
       drones (which are also bad enough).
       In comparison, if the Counterculture had won, we would have
       beein phasing out all private cars by now.
       --- Quote ---
       > His general advice was think further ahead and not live each
       day as if it were your last, but rather as if it were going to
       go on forever.
       --- End Quote ---
       We were also recently discussing this topic here:
  HTML https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/childcare-issues/msg28690/#msg28690
       --- Quote ---
       > future-oriented thinking, which at best reduces empathy for
       victims in the present moment and at worst leads to
       progressivism.
       --- End Quote ---
       Thiel is a good example of this.
       [/quote]
       I meant in terms of "Whites" exterminating "non Whites". But I
       guess if "Whites" are able to gain a competitive advantage
       without doing so then it won't even matter?
       #Post#: 28889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: December 6, 2024, 8:48 pm
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