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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: August 17, 2023, 4:25 am
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: September 1, 2023, 6:13 pm
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More AI Karenism:
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest98
Date: September 5, 2023, 4:12 pm
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HTML https://theconversation.com/ai-systems-have-learned-how-to-deceive-humans-what-does-that-mean-for-our-future-212197
AI systems have learned how to deceive humans. What does that
mean for our future?
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> Artificial intelligence pioneer Geoffrey Hinton made headlines
earlier this year when he raised concerns about the capabilities
of AI systems. Speaking to CNN journalist Jake Tapper, Hinton
said:
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> If it gets to be much smarter than us, it will be very good at
manipulation because it would have learned that from us. And
there are very few examples of a more intelligent thing being
controlled by a less intelligent thing.
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> Anyone who has kept tabs on the latest AI offerings will know
these systems are prone to “hallucinating” (making things up) –
a flaw that’s inherent in them due to how they work.
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> AI learns to lie
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> Perhaps the most disturbing example of a deceptive AI is found
in Meta’s CICERO
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> Meta claims it built CICERO to be “largely honest and
helpful”, and CICERO would “never intentionally backstab” and
attack allies.
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> To investigate these rosy claims, we looked carefully at
Meta’s own game data from the CICERO experiment.On close
inspection, Meta’s AI turned out to be a master of deception.
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> In one example, CICERO engaged in premeditated deception.
Playing as France, the AI reached out to Germany (a human
player) with a plan to trick England (another human player) into
leaving itself open to invasion.
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> After conspiring with Germany to invade the North Sea, CICERO
told England it would defend England if anyone invaded the North
Sea. Once England was convinced that France/CICERO was
protecting the North Sea, CICERO reported to Germany it was
ready to attack.
>
> This is just one of several examples of CICERO engaging in
deceptive behaviour. The AI regularly betrayed other players,
and in one case even pretended to be a human with a girlfriend.
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> Besides CICERO, other systems have learned how to bluff in
poker, how to feint in StarCraft II and how to mislead in
simulated economic negotiations.
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> Even large language models (LLM) have displayed significant
deceptive capabilities.
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> LLM models have learned to lie to win social deduction games,
wherein players compete to “kill” one another and must convince
the group they’re innocent.
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> What are the risks?
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> AI systems with deceptive capabilities could be misused in
numerous ways, including to commit fraud, tamper with elections
and generate propaganda. The potential risks are only limited by
the imagination and the technical know-how of malicious
individuals.
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> Beyond that, advanced AI systems can autonomously use
deception to escape human control, such as by cheating safety
tests imposed on them by developers and regulators.
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> In the future, advanced autonomous AI systems may be prone to
manifesting goals unintended by their human programmers.
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> We argue AI deception poses immense risks to society
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AI is the anti-christ
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest98
Date: September 6, 2023, 5:36 pm
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The evil ones are putting the finishing touches on their
accursed AI wailing wall prison, this prison will encompass the
subtle air of the whole world.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest98
Date: September 8, 2023, 4:25 pm
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HTML https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/us-china-tech-drones/
In U.S.-China AI contest, the race is on to deploy killer robots
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> Alongside Sydney Harbour, engineers are working on a submarine
that will be powered by artificial intelligence and will have no
human crew. The project is being driven by a contest between the
U.S., its allies and China to develop AI-controlled weapons that
will operate autonomously, including warships and fighter jets.
The outcome of this competition could determine the global
balance of power.
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> Australia, one of America’s closest allies, could have dozens
of lethal autonomous robots patrolling the ocean depths years
before its first nuclear submarine goes on patrol.
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> “There is a lot of warfare that is dull, dirty and dangerous.
It is a lot better to do that with a machine.” -Shane Arnott,
senior vice-president of engineering at U.S. defense contractor
Anduril
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> In this high-tech contest, seizing the upper hand across
fields including AI and autonomous weapons, like Ghost Shark,
could determine who comes out on top.
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> Some leading military strategists say AI will herald a turning
point in military power as dramatic as the introduction of
nuclear weapons. Others warn of profound dangers if AI-driven
robots begin making lethal decisions independently, and have
called for a pause in AI research until agreement is reached on
regulation related to the military application of AI.
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> Despite such misgivings, both sides are scrambling to field
uncrewed machines that will exploit AI to operate autonomously
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> Perhaps even more revolutionary than autonomous weapons is the
potential for AI systems to inform military commanders and help
them decide how to fight
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> Technologists say this information has grown so voluminous it
is impossible for human analysts to digest.
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> Scientists have warned that swarms of small, lethal drones
could target big groups of people, such as the entire population
of military-aged males from a certain town, region or ethnic
group.
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: guest98
Date: September 8, 2023, 7:09 pm
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HTML https://time.com/6310076/elon-musk-ai-walter-isaacson-biography/
Inside Elon Musk's Struggle for the Future of AI
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> At a conference in 2012, Elon Musk met Demis Hassabis, the
video-game designer and artificial--intelligence researcher who
had co-founded a company named DeepMind that sought to design
computers that could learn how to think like humans.
>
> Musk explained that his reason for building rockets that could
go to Mars was that it might be a way to preserve human
consciousness in the event of a world war, asteroid strike, or
civilization collapse. Hassabis told him to add another
potential threat to the list: artificial intelligence.
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> At Musk’s 2013 birthday party in Napa Valley, California, they
got into a passionate debate. Unless we built in safeguards,
Musk argued, artificial-intelligence-systems might replace
humans, making our species irrelevant or even extinct.
>
> Page pushed back. Why would it matter, he asked, if machines
someday surpassed humans in intelligence, even consciousness? It
would simply be the next stage of evolution.
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> Human consciousness, Musk retorted, was a precious flicker of
light in the universe, and we should not let it be extinguished.
Page considered that sentimental nonsense. If consciousness
could be replicated in a machine, why would that not be just as
valuable? He accused Musk of being a “specist,” someone who was
biased in favor of their own species. “Well, yes, I am
pro-human,” Musk responded. “I f-cking like humanity, dude.”
>
> One question they discussed at dinner was what would be safer:
a small number of AI systems that were controlled by big
corporations or a large number of independent systems? They
concluded that a large number of competing systems, providing
checks and balances on one another, was better. For Musk, this
was the reason to make OpenAI truly open, so that lots of people
could build systems based on its source code.
>
> Musk felt, was to tie the bots closely to humans. They should
be an extension of the will of individuals, rather than systems
that could go rogue and develop their own goals and intentions.
That would become one of the rationales for Neuralink, the
company he would found to create chips that could connect human
brains directly to computers.
>
> So Musk decided to forge ahead with building rival AI teams to
work on an array of related projects. These included Neuralink,
which aims to plant microchips in human brains; Optimus, a
human-like robot; and Dojo, a supercomputer that can use
millions of videos to train an artificial neural network to
simulate a human brain
>
> Musk worried that these chatbots and AI systems, especially in
the hands of Microsoft and Google, could become politically
indoctrinated, perhaps even infected by what he called the
woke-mind virus. He also feared that self-learning AI systems
might turn hostile to the human species.
>
> AI was the biggest storm brewing. And there was no one more
attracted to a storm than Musk.
>
> What could Musk bring to the party? One asset was the Twitter
feed, which included more than a trillion tweets posted over the
years, 500 million added each day. It was humanity’s hive mind,
the world’s most timely dataset of real-life human
conversations, news, interests, trends, arguments, and lingo.
Plus it was a great training ground for a chatbot to test how
real humans react to its responses. The value of this data feed
was not something Musk considered when buying Twitter. “It was a
side benefit, actually, that I realized only after the
purchase,” he says.
>
> There was another data trove that Musk had: the 160 billion
frames per day of video that Tesla received and processed from
the cameras on its cars. This data was different from the
text-based documents that informed chatbots. It was video data
of humans navigating in real-world situations. It could help
create AI for physical robots
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> The holy grail of artificial general intelligence is building
machines that can operate like humans in physical spaces
>
> He spoke in a low monotone punctuated by bouts of almost manic
laughter. The amount of human intelligence, he noted, was
leveling off, because people were not having enough children.
Meanwhile, the amount of computer intelligence was going up
exponentially, like Moore’s Law on steroids. At some point,
biological brainpower would be dwarfed by digital brainpower.
>
> Musk somberly speculated about the window of opportunity for
building a sustainable human colony on Mars before an AI
apocalypse destroyed earthly civilization.
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> I need to focus on making AI safe. That’s why I’m starting an
AI company.”
>
> His over-riding mission had always been to assure that AI
developed in a way that helped guarantee that human
consciousness endured. That was best achieved, he thought, by
creating a form of artificial general intelligence that could
“reason” and “think” and pursue “truth” as its guiding
principle.
>
> Musk hoped, it would be able to take on even grander and more
existential questions. It would be “a maximum truth-seeking AI.
It would care about understanding the universe, and that would
probably lead it to want to preserve humanity,
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These dangerous western billionaires need to be stopped
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: =
Date: September 19, 2023, 6:15 pm
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HTML https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-ai-data-gig-workers/
Meet the gig workers making AI models smarter
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> Kristin is part of a spectral global work force that helps
make AI models more accurate, capable and powerful.
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> AI, at its best, can seem like sorcery.
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> “It’s really important to stress that artificial intelligence
is actually based on human intelligence – thousands of hours of
human intelligence,” said Sasha Luccioni, an AI researcher
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> When you look behind the curtain to glimpse how some AI models
are made, it’s clear how crucial humans are to the process. We
are the ghost in the machine – but maybe not for long.
>
> AI model might figure out how to achieve an objective in
unpredictable, even dangerous, ways.
>
>
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 1, 2023, 11:24 pm
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: 90sRetroFan
Date: October 20, 2023, 5:16 pm
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Cyborgs are not far off (if they can do a hand they will before
long be able to do a complete body):
HTML https://www.sciencealert.com/revolutionary-bionic-hand-fuses-with-womans-bones-muscles-and-nerves
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HTML https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2023/10/KarinProstheticHand.jpg
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> The bionic hand is based on revolutionary technology that
connects directly to a user's bones, muscles, and nerves –
creating a human-machine interface that allows AI to translate
brain signals into precise yet simple movements.
> ...
> The researchers, who come from Sweden, Italy, and Australia,
say it's the first time that a robotic hand with internal
electrodes has shown long-term viability for amputations below
the elbow.
> ...
> Basically, that means when an implant is placed into a
person's bone, the bone cells will grow tightly around it.
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> "This integration is so strong that we can actually attach the
artificial limb directly to the skeleton," explains Ortiz
Catalán in a video.
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> When this technique is combined with reconstructive surgery,
Ortiz Catalán argues he can "truly integrate biology and
electronics".
> ...
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See also:
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Can we stop them in time?
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Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
DIR By: rp
Date: October 23, 2023, 4:32 am
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