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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: rp Date: February 15, 2021, 9:51 pm
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       Is NASA a waste of money?:
  HTML https://youtu.be/lARpY0nIQx0
       (Hint: yes, it is, but the Westerner in the video won't tell you
       that)
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 20, 2021, 9:50 pm
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       Western civilization is making A Nightmare on Elm Street real:
  HTML https://www.sciencealert.com/people-can-answer-questions-and-even-do-math-problems-when-asleep-study-shows
       [quote]Scientists Found a Way to Communicate With People Who Are
       Asleep And Dreaming
       ...
       "We found that individuals in REM sleep can interact with an
       experimenter and engage in real-time communication," says
       psychologist Ken Paller from Northwestern University.
       ...
       During the deepest stages of sleep, as monitored by
       electroencephalogram (EEG) instruments, scientists interacted
       with the study participants through spoken audio, flashing
       lights, and physical touch
       ...
       The individuals involved in the study were usually woken up
       after a successful response in order to get them to report on
       their dreams. In some cases, the external inputs were remembered
       as being outside or overlaid on the dream; in others, they came
       through something inside the dream (like a radio).
       In the published study the researchers compare trying to
       communicate with lucid dreamers to trying to get in touch with
       an astronaut in space, and it's the immediacy of the responses
       that make this new approach so exciting.
       The research could be helpful in the future study of dreams,
       memory, and how important sleep is for fixing memories in place.
       It might also come in useful in the treatment of sleeping
       disorders, and further down the line might even give us a way to
       train what we see in our dreams.
       "These repeated observations of interactive dreaming, documented
       by four independent laboratory groups, demonstrate that
       phenomenological and cognitive characteristics of dreaming can
       be interrogated in real time," write the researchers in their
       paper.
       "This relatively unexplored communication channel can enable a
       variety of practical applications and a new strategy for the
       empirical exploration of dreams."[/quote]
       Westerners just can't leave ANYTHING alone! Soon even the dream
       world will be Westernized! The only solution is to kill Western
       civilization first!
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: rp Date: February 21, 2021, 12:16 am
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       This is basically the movie "Inception"
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: Zea_mays Date: February 27, 2021, 2:52 pm
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       I don't see the old thread about plans to safely bring life to
       an end, so I'll post this here. I would like to make everyone
       fully aware of the space colonization Pandora's Boxes that are
       already being opened and need to be addressed during our
       lifetimes.
       In 2019, Israelis launched the first private spacecraft to land
       on the moon. In addition to polluting the moon with Israeli
       flags and other identitarian iconography, they launched human
       DNA samples and micro-organisms called tardigrades.
       Let me say that again, there are micro-organisms currently
       living on the moon. They may have been killed by solar
       radiation, but it is impossible to know.
  HTML https://www.wired.com/story/a-crashed-israeli-lunar-lander-spilled-tardigrades-on-the-moon/
       [quote]"When Israel's private lunar lander Beresheet crashed
       onto the lunar surface, it was carrying a box full of
       tardigrades—microscopic creatures that are the only known living
       thing capable of surviving the extreme vacuum of outer space.
       And Nova Spivack, founder of the Arch Mission Foundation, who
       paid to have the tardigrades on the spacecraft, has now told
       Wired magazine that he believes they survived.
       The tardigrades were part of a "lunar library" that Spivack's
       foundation had put together. According to Wired, the package was
       about the size of a DVD and contained human DNA—including
       Spivack's own—as well as 30 million pages of information on
       mankind's knowledge and thousands of dehydrated tardigrades.
       [...]
       Arch Mission Foundation is a private non-profit that wants to
       develop a "backup of planet Earth" by "preserving the knowledge
       and biology of our planet in a solar system wide project called
       The Billion Year Archive," a statement from the company
       says.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.newsweek.com/tardigrade-living-moon-israel-spaceship-crash-1452728
       [quote]"On board was a "lunar library" created by the Arch
       Mission Foundation as kind of time capsule for the combined
       knowledge of human civilization. The library contained samples
       of human DNA and 30 million pages of digital and analog data,
       including a full copy of Wikipedia, an Israeli flag, a Torah and
       a copy of the Israeli Declaration of Independence.
       [...]
       NASA's Office of Planetary Protection (OPP) has established
       guidelines for how sterile planetary missions need to be.
       "Uncontrolled biological contamination of the Moon's surface is
       not scientifically ideal," said OPP director Dr. Lisa Pratt in a
       statement after the crash.
       Other scientists were more upset: Astrobiologist Monica Vidaurri
       posted a Twitter thread in which she detailed the potential
       ramifications of letting private organizations dump whatever
       they want on the Moon's surface.
       "Tardigrades on the Moon is not good," wrote Vidaurri, who works
       as a science consultant at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center.
       "It is not exciting. It is not cute. It is the result of a major
       gap in accountability for planetary protection and ethics
       between public and private science, and we have no idea what can
       happen as a result.""[/quote]
  HTML https://www.newsweek.com/tardigrades-moon-scientists-1454019
       I think cremated remains are basically just charred carbon and
       don't really have ecoverable DNA. Nevertheless, Homo hubris is
       reaching the point where it can no longer be contained on Earth:
       [quote]"NASA sending human remains to the moon in summer 2021
       People’s cremated ashes are to be sent to the Moon next year as
       part of a commercial burial service piggybacking on a NASA lunar
       mission.
       Texas space memorial firm Celestis will provide more than a
       dozen capsules carrying human remains and DNA for the flight.
       Dubbed Luna 2, the mission will launch on a July 2021 NASA
       flight to a region of the Moon called Lacus Mortis, Space.com
       reports.
       To date, only one person – revolutionary planetary scientist
       Eugene Shoemaker – has been buried on the lunar surface.
       [...]
       “The Celestis memorial capsules … will remain on the Moon as a
       permanent tribute to the intrepid souls who never stopped
       reaching for the stars,” the firm writes on its website.
       “Each time you view the Moon you’ll know your loved one is in a
       place few have ever gone.”"[/quote]
  HTML https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/nasa-sending-human-remains-to-the-moon-summer-2021/
       This sounds like the DNA is completely extracted from cells and
       is not capable of reproducing on its own. Nevertheless, a very
       dangerous development. Note the usual suspects, Arch Mission and
       SpaceX.
       [quote]"How does my DNA get to the Moon?
       Your DNA gets preserved in a capsule and launched on a rocket.
       The capsule, made by our partners at Arch Mission, shares a
       commercial lunar lander along with other payloads and NASA
       missions. The rocket launches into orbit and then does a few
       laps around the Earth to gain altitude before slinging the
       lander into a lunar capture orbit. Once the lander lands on the
       Moon, it stays there forever. Holding the capsule and you on the
       Moon forever.
       The next mission launches on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket in the
       fourth quarter of 2021.
       [...]
       What could my DNA be used for?
       None of us will know. This capsule is designed for the far
       future. Perhaps it will be found by a future civilization and
       used recreate Earth as it is today. Our descendants could carry
       your code to the stars to seed a new world. We just won’t know.
       However, we believe it is worth saving our genetic blueprints
       for the future.
       Why go on the LifeShip?
       You get to go on a space mission and send a piece of you where
       few have been. You save your family’s genes for the future and
       leave a forever legacy among the stars. You'll look at the Moon
       for the rest of your life with a new sense of wonder. Your loved
       ones get a connection to you through the Moon."[/quote]
  HTML https://lifeship.com/pages/faqs
       Of course, astronauts already left literal shit on the moon,
       which is teeming with bacterial life:
       [quote]"But the bigger human footprint on the moon is, arguably,
       the 96 bags of human waste left behind by the six Apollo
       missions that landed there.
       Yes, our brave astronauts took dumps on their way to the moon,
       perhaps even on the moon, and they left behind their diapers in
       baggies, on humanity’s doorstep to the greater cosmos.
       The bags have lingered there, and no one knows what has become
       of them. Now scientists want to go back, and answer a question
       that has profound implications for our future explorations of
       Mars: Is anything alive in them?
       [...]
       With the Apollo 11 moon landing, we took microbial life on Earth
       to the most extreme environment it has ever been in. Which means
       the human feces — along with bags of urine, food waste, vomit,
       and other waste in the bags, which also might contain microbial
       life — on the moon represents a natural, though unintended,
       experiment.
       The question the experiment will answer: How resilient is life
       in the face of the brutal environment of the moon? And for that
       matter, if microbes can survive on the moon, can they survive
       interstellar travel, making them capable of seeding life across
       the universe, including on places like Mars?
       [...]
       Apollo 16 astronaut Charlie Duke spent 71 hours on the moon in
       1972. On a recent phone call, he confirmed that the crew left
       human waste behind.
       [...]
       Even so, he says, they threw out the garbage thinking everything
       would be sanitized by the solar radiation. “I’d be really really
       surprised if anything survived,” he says. Plus, taking it back
       with them wasn’t really an option."[/quote]
  HTML https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/3/22/18236125/apollo-moon-poop-mars-science
       5 spacecraft have already left the solar system. It may be too
       late to retrieve them.
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_leaving_the_Solar_System
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_program
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record
       Trump established funding for the Artemis program, which is set
       to put more humans on the moon in 2024 and establish a
       semi-permanent Moon base by the end of the decade, to serve as a
       research camp for future Mars missions.
  HTML https://www.space.com/nasa-plans-artemis-moon-base-beyond-2024.html
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_program#Artemis_Base_Camp
       And I'm sure you've heard of Elon Musk's obsession with
       colonizing Mars. We're at the point where billionaires can
       launch cars and junk into space for fun and are at real risk of
       doing whatever the hell they want in space...
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk%27s_Tesla_Roadster
       [quote]SpaceX Mars program is a development program initiated by
       Elon Musk and SpaceX in order to facilitate the eventual
       colonization of Mars. The program includes fully reusable launch
       vehicles, human-rated spacecraft, on-orbit propellant tankers,
       rapid-turnaround launch/landing mounts, and local production of
       rocket fuel on Mars via in situ resource utilization (ISRU).
       SpaceX's aspirational goal has been to land the first humans on
       Mars by 2024,[1][2] but in October 2020 Elon Musk named 2024 as
       goal for an uncrewed mission.[3] At the Axel Springer Award 2020
       Elon Musk said that he is highly confident that the first crewed
       flights to Mars will happen in 2026.[4] [/quote]
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mars_program
       And this isn't even considering all the space colonization ideas
       that haven't yet left the drawing board. Some are very dangerous
       and would be able to accelerate spacecraft at speeds much higher
       than Voyager. I've read plans where people want to basically put
       a packet of cells/DNA into a very small container and then
       accelerate it into deep space using this laser method.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 27, 2021, 9:47 pm
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       [quote]thousands of dehydrated tardigrades[/quote]
       Who, it goes without saying, never gave consent.
       [quote]Arch Mission Foundation is a private non-profit that
       wants to develop a "backup of planet Earth" by "preserving the
       knowledge and biology of our planet in a solar system wide
       project called The Billion Year Archive,"[/quote]
       It doesn't get more Demiurgic than this. If they send these
       backups into outer space, they have in effect already forced us
       to travel into outer space to chase them down! And if we have to
       develop the more advanced machines required to catch up with
       them, it means others can use the same machines to travel
       further out but with expansive intentions in mind! So then we
       will have to chase those guys down, which will require even more
       advanced machines which in turn could also be used for
       expansion! And so on. This is how the Demiurge keeps us trapped
       over and over again.
       "And I'm sure you've heard of Elon Musk's obsession with
       colonizing Mars."
       See earlier posts in this topic.
       "I've read plans where people want to basically put a packet of
       cells/DNA into a very small container and then accelerate it
       into deep space using this laser method."
       [img]
  HTML https://thekingjamesversionbible.com/images/genesis-9-7-16[/img]
       Nothing is new.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: Zea_mays Date: March 3, 2021, 6:29 pm
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       I forgot to elaborate on the dangers of photon propulsion. If
       some private individual or group with access to this type of
       technology decides to just launch something like this for fun,
       it's not like any punishment on Earth will be able to rectify
       the damage. It will be far too late to contain the damage.
       (For reference, it takes around 7-9 months to get to Mars using
       current technology).
       [quote]Powerful Laser Could Blast Spacecraft to Mars in 3 Days
       (Video)
       [...]
       It sounds like science fiction, but it's eminently possible,
       researchers say: Robotic spacecraft could get to Mars after a
       journey of just three days.
       The key to making this happen is photon propulsion, which would
       use a powerful laser to accelerate spacecraft to relativistic
       speeds, said Philip Lubin, a physics professor at the University
       of California, Santa Barbara.
       [...]
       This method could propel a 220-lb. (100 kilograms) robotic craft
       to Mars in just three days, Lubin said. A crewed vehicle would
       take a bit longer to get to the Red Planet — maybe a month or
       so, he said.
       Ultimately, Lubin would like to use the technology to send small
       probes into interstellar space.
       "Within about 25 light-years of the Earth, there are actually
       quite a few potential exoplanets and habitable things to visit,"
       Lubin said at the NIAC symposium. "There are many targets to
       choose from."[/quote]
  HTML https://www.space.com/32026-photon-propulsion-mars-three-days.html
       Of course, then we have "space tourism":
       [quote]Japanese billionaire to fly eight members of the public
       on SpaceX moon flight
       Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa announced on Tuesday that he
       will choose eight members of the public to join him on a trip
       around the moon, scheduled to fly on SpaceX’s Starship rocket in
       2023.
       “I’m inviting you to join me on this mission,” Maezawa said in a
       video.
       Maezawa, who announced the mission in September 2018 alongside
       SpaceX founder Elon Musk, said that the plan has evolved from
       flying artists on a trip to lunar orbit.[/quote]
  HTML https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/yusaku-maezawa-opens-up-public-seats-on-spacex-starship-moon-flight.html
       How many dystopian science fiction films and novels warn us
       about elites who have access to such technology in order to fly
       to utopian colonies while the rest of humanity and non-human
       life act as slaves to sustain the lifestyles of the
       techno-elites?
       But Western civilization junkies are actually inspired by these
       types of fictional stories and want to bring them into
       reality!!! Again, if Elon Musk, who possesses launch bases for
       spacecraft and the actual rockets themselves, decides to just go
       off into space and do whatever evil he wants, who is going to
       stop him? The US government actually gives him contracts to
       develop his spacecraft, since it is more profitable to outsource
       everything to the "private sector". In the processes, this has
       given private individuals possession of technology even more
       dangerous than nuclear weaponry.
       Also, Elon Musk spends a lot of money on PR to make it seem like
       he's a cool guy or whatever. Of course, it should be no surprise
       to us that he comes from a family who owned an apartheid emerald
       mine:
  HTML https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2
  HTML https://www.businessinsider.co.za/elon-musk-sells-the-family-emeralds-in-new-york-2018-2
       Unfortunately, he and people like him have spent so much money
       on pro-space propaganda that even anti-Musk people still praise
       space colonization, rather than stop and reflect on the
       consistently ignoble character of the types of people who are
       promoting space colonization....
  HTML https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/lqbr2t/congratulations_nasa_for_landing_their_5th_rover/
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: rp Date: March 4, 2021, 3:31 pm
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       Another Starship flight from Musk's SpaceX:
  HTML https://youtu.be/ODY6JWzS8WU
       This is getting out of hand...
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       End of Ageing and Cancer? Scientists Unveil Structure of the ‘Im
       mortality’ Enzyme Telomerase
       By: guest5 Date: March 4, 2021, 9:38 pm
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       End of Ageing and Cancer? Scientists Unveil Structure of the
       ‘Immortality’ Enzyme Telomerase
       [quote]Detailed images of the anti-ageing enzyme telomerase are
       a drug designer’s dream.[/quote]
  HTML https://getpocket.com/explore/item/end-of-ageing-and-cancer-scientists-unveil-structure-of-the-immortality-enzyme-telomerase?utm_source=pocket-newtab
       In other words, if Western civilization doesn't die soon Trump
       and his supporters could become immortal, unless of course they
       catch a bullet to the head. This will make rightists even more
       'survivalism' oriented than they all ready are. Then the drones
       are really going to start being mass produced. No immortal will
       bother risking their immortality in battle when they can just
       sit at a computer desk and kill people with impunity with the
       simple push of a button.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: rp Date: March 6, 2021, 6:45 pm
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       World's first space hotel scheduled to open in 2027:
  HTML https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/voyager-station-space-hotel-scn/index.html
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
       By: guest5 Date: March 6, 2021, 10:09 pm
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       Some good news on this topic for once:
       SpaceX Rocket Nails Landing...Then Explodes
       [quote]SpaceX's rocket, Starship SN10, appeared to finally
       complete its first upright landing, before a spectacularly
       exploding on the launch pad. [/quote]
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mKxgCBeq_Y
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