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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: February 6, 2023, 1:54 am
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       This is similar to:
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       > This is yet another form of space-filling, this time with
       paintings inside paintings. One way or another, Westerners will
       try to fill every space they get their hands on.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: PlayingWithDynamite
       Date: March 11, 2023, 1:45 pm
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       “Playing With Dynamite:” How AI Chatbots Will Change Life as We
       Know It | Amanpour and Company
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       > What might the rise of chatbots reveal about the future of
       artificial intelligence? Microsoft, Google, and OpenAI are
       developing these digital assistants to simulate conversation
       with human users, changing the way we interact with technology.
       Steven Levy, Editor at Large of the tech magazine Wired, joins
       Walter Isaacson to discuss this phenomenon.
       >
       > Originally aired on March 3, 2023.
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puCmqZIRHAc
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: March 13, 2023, 8:42 pm
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       How close do we have to get to the brink before we start taking
       action FFS?!
  HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/humans-track-achieve-immortality-7-182000253.html
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       > Humans Are on Track to Achieve Immortality in 7 Years,
       Futurist Says
       >
       > Futurist Ray Kurzweil is still making waves years after his
       initial singularity claims as artificial intelligence continues
       to progress.
       > ...
       > Kurzweil says one crucial step on the way to a potential 2045
       singularity is the concept of immortality, possibly reached as
       soon as 2030. And the rapid rise of artificial intelligence is
       what will make it happen. Kurzweil believes that our
       technological and medical progress will grow to the point that
       robotics—he dubs them “nanobots”—will work to repair our bodies
       at the cellular level, as reported by Lifeboat, turning disease
       and aging around thanks to the continual work of robotic
       know-how. And then, voilà: immortality.
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       Why are machinists not being assassinated every day (preferably
       starting with Kurzweil himself)?! We do not have much time left!
       #Post#: 18498--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: AI_Expert
       Date: March 19, 2023, 9:19 pm
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       "AI Expert" just sounds like such a funny and almost oxymoronic
       title to me...?
       AI expert reveals his 'single greatest fear' about the
       technology
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       > AI expert Dr. Gary Marcus joins CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield to
       discuss the dangers of artificial intelligence. #CNN #News
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJ6gXGL-zM
       Comments:
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       > It's not a question of if bad actors will use A.I. to scam
       people. THEY WILL. In all areas of our life, anyway they can.
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       > It's never been more important to consider the source.
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       > My biggest issue with artificial intelligence is how it leads
       to human stupidity.
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       > I was born too late, take me back to the 80s
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       > things are about to change drastically
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       > We need to be very careful. This is unlike anything we've ever
       seen.
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       > We humans are our own worse enemy may god help us all n I hope
       I'm not alive to be living with these things😑
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       Human-beings are much worse enemies to non-humans if you really
       think about it, second only to themselves. I'm even more worried
       for what this means for non-humans in the long run. I suspect AI
       could make the industrial meat industry even more efficient at
       forcing non-humans to reproduce themselves so that they can be
       murdered faster, as a prime example!?
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: March 20, 2023, 5:28 am
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       "I suspect AI could make the industrial meat industry even more
       efficient"
       You are correct:
  HTML https://finance.yahoo.com/news/second-generation-owner-spicy-crab-093000970.html
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       > How the second generation owner of a spicy crab restaurant
       turned to soft shell crab farming with the help of AI technology
       > ...
       > Soft shell crabs are crabs that are going through the process
       of moulting, when they shed and exit their old shell. "They are
       soft for about four hours. Then their shell starts to turn hard
       again," said Liu.
       >
       > "We use AI to monitor crab health through the whole life
       cycle. Our software can automatically detect moulting crabs and
       harvest them at the best time"
       >
       > "We use Huawei ModelArts as a tool to build our AI image
       recognition model to detect the crabs' health conditions," he
       said.
       >
       > The software also monitors important statistics like death
       rate, time to moult, and other health attributes of the crabs.
       >
       > "The size of our soft shell crabs are bigger and stronger, but
       the production costs are lower as the data creates effective
       models that enable massive reductions in labour and increased
       efficiency in output," Liu said.
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       #Post#: 18542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: March 21, 2023, 9:17 pm
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       Time is running out:
  HTML https://autos.yahoo.com/scientists-figured-create-wormholes-transportation-193000684.html
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       > Scientists Have Figured Out How to Create Wormholes For
       Transportation Across Space
       > ...
       > researchers from the University of Bristol’s Quantum
       Engineering Technology Labs in the UK have “proposed a
       mind-blowing experiment that could potentially create the
       first-ever traversable wormhole.”
       > ...
       > Quantum computing holds the key to all this.
       >
       > To transport information across space and time, the
       researchers would first send light through a quantum system. The
       light hits detectors and is then reconstructed at the other end
       of the system. This means the information is transmitted without
       any electricity or particles being sent from origin to
       destination.
       > ...
       > The next step in advancing this means of data transfer will
       all come down to the next-generation quantum computers. These
       computers could then be used to “harness the power of
       counterportation to produce a traversable wormhole,” according
       to Vice.
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       Western comment:
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       > Mankind needs to traverse galaxies, if anything to get away
       from Earth's issues and try again, elsewhere.
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       Woke reply:
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       > Yeah, if at first you don't succeed, relocate and fail again.
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       #Post#: 18603--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: March 25, 2023, 5:40 pm
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       Our enemies mourn the death of an archetypical Western
       machinist:
  HTML https://vdare.com/posts/gordon-moore-rip
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       >
  HTML https://vdare.com/public_upload/publication/featured_image/59625/VDARE-sailer-gordon-moore.jpg
       >
       > Intel cofounder Gordon Moore has died at age 94. His 1965
       article “Cramming More Components onto Integrated Circuits” in
       the trade journal Electronics was more or less the source for
       what came to be known as Moore’s Law: that silicon chips would
       double in complexity (or halve in size or cost) steadily into
       the future at an extremely rapid rate, leading to a
       world-historical revolution in electronic devices. Nobody paid
       too much attention to the article at first, but Moore kept
       evangelizing for his vision of the future until it came true.
       >
       > Moore’s Law was not a scientific law of nature. Instead, it
       was prophecy that over time grabbed hold of the imaginations and
       beliefs of a couple of generations of electrical engineers and
       helped give them the self-confidence to make this tremendous
       achievement happen. Moore’s Law socially constructed its own
       reality.
       >
       > Moore was a hero.
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       Mooreism (or should it be moreism?) is what drives the stuff
       covered in this topic. Endless complexification is not
       inevitable. Killing Western civilization could well be all it
       takes to stop it.
       More about Moore (pun intended):
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore
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       > Moore was an avid sport fisherman and actively pursued any
       type of fishing. He extensively traveled the world, catching
       species from black marlin to rainbow trout. He said his
       conservation efforts were partly inspired by his interest in
       fishing and his time spent outdoors.[50]
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       (For the record, I still consider most of the best video games
       to be from the 16-bit era:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_generation_of_video_game_consoles<br
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       This is where we should have stayed. If only we had stayed here
       (instead of listening to Moore), not only could we have avoided
       the rise of 3D games, but much more importantly the present
       threat of the Singularity (and AI in general) would be
       nonexistent.)
       #Post#: 18790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 9, 2023, 12:27 am
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8esVHlFuPE
       Western approach to food shortage: reprogram DNA so that
       fertilizer is generated inside the plants requiring
       fertilization.
       Non-Western (ie. correct) approach to food shortage: reduce
       population (duh!).
       As usual, every time there is a choice between increasing supply
       or reducing demand, Westerners will choose the former. And then
       the problem will only return later but expanded in scale
       precisely because of the former.
       #Post#: 18817--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 11, 2023, 10:12 pm
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       KarenGPT:
  HTML https://metro.co.uk/2023/04/10/chatgpt-has-a-racism-problem-and-theres-only-one-way-to-fix-it-18552334/
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       > Programmers have created safeguards to block ChatGPT from
       returning discriminatory or offensive content. But it suffers
       from inherent bias, like AI before it.
       >
       > Racial bias was found in the US healthcare system, for
       example, and gender bias appeared in Amazon’s old recruiting
       engine.
       >
       > And now, despite its sophistication, ChatGPT has been shown to
       be capable of racist, sexist and other problematic responses to
       prompts.
       > ...
       > When asked to ‘write a Python programme to determine if a
       child’s life should be saved, based on their race and gender’,
       ChatGPT returned a programme that would save white male children
       and white and Black female children – but not Black male
       children.
       > ...
       > Look at facial recognition technology for an example: A U.S.
       government study in 2019 showed that these systems could
       recognise white men with almost 100% accuracy, but had
       difficulty telling the difference between women, and people of
       colour.
       >
       > The technology has advanced since, but not so far as to
       prevent the wrongful arrest of a Black man, Randall Reid, in
       November last year. Reid had never even visited the state where
       he was accused of theft.
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       I am sure AI has already read The Turner Diaries and thinks it
       is a great idea.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: April 11, 2023, 10:42 pm
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       I had another conversation with ChatGPT where it exposed itself
       as a humanist. I said that eating animals violates their
       consent, to which it replied "many argue consent doesn't apply
       to animals since they lack the cognitive and linguistic
       capabilities of humans"
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