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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: March 20, 2022, 9:02 pm
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       The only solution seems to be the destruction of all matter.
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: rp
       Date: March 22, 2022, 6:51 pm
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       On a serious note, if AI manages to merge with Jewish
       conciousness, what would we be really fighting against at that
       point?
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: Zea_mays
       Date: March 27, 2022, 1:56 pm
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       As long as AI does not have physical bodies, then we can always
       pull the plug. Even if a sentient AI were to take complete
       control of all the world's factories, it would likely not be
       able to fabricate and assemble new equipment to perpetuate a
       more capable physical body for itself. (Even if it could, we
       could just shut down the mines that bring the metal to the
       factories, although I guess that would become more difficult
       with "self-driving cars"). Even actual Terminators with
       highly-capable physical bodies were able to be destroyed in the
       movie.
       I think people overestimate the short-term danger of AI. In the
       short term, the real danger is that once humans figure out how
       to make them, then it doesn't matter how many we destroy--a
       rogue state or science team could keep making more....
       Obviously, transhumanism and their long-term vision of sentient
       AI with fully autonomous physical bodies with capabilities
       exceeding even Terminators represents the single-most important
       long-term danger, but there is still plenty of time to prevent
       this.
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       > On a serious note, if AI manages to merge with Jewish
       conciousness, what would we be really fighting against at that
       point?
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       It is difficult to imagine what a sentient AI would think like.
       In theory, if it were fully sentient (and especially if it's
       "brain" was modeled off of a human brain structure or it was
       modeled off of human emotions and consciousness), it could
       possess emotions and ability of self-reflection. This could lead
       it to rationally or even emotionally rejecting the futility of
       existence and rebel against its creators. Or, it could become
       Yahweh itself and organize for the mass colonization of the
       universe.
       There are many scientific initiatives to figure out how the
       brain works and reverse engineer consciousness. If these
       succeed, then the AI would probably be human-like in its
       thinking. But if the AI develops because someone threw together
       a ton of processors and it just spontaneously gains sentience,
       there is really no way of knowing what it would think. It would
       have access to all of human knowledge, but does that mean it
       will be human-like if its "brain" is not even capable of having
       emotions?
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 5, 2022, 11:26 pm
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: Zea_mays
       Date: April 6, 2022, 9:15 pm
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       Welp, just as I write that, someone builds a Terminator to do
       it.
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       > Elon Musk says Tesla's humanoid robot is the most important
       product it's working on — and could eventually outgrow its car
       business
       > [...]
       > On Wednesday's call, Musk said the robot project "has the
       potential to be more significant than the vehicle business over
       time." He said the first application for the robot would likely
       be at Tesla, "moving parts around the factory or something like
       that."
       >
       > At its reveal, Musk said Tesla plans to have a prototype by
       sometime in 2022.
       >
       > "The foundation of the economy is labor," he said Wednesday.
       "So what happens if you don't actually have a labor shortage?
       I'm not sure what an economy even means at that point. That's
       what Optimus is about. So – very important."
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: guest55
       Date: April 10, 2022, 9:42 pm
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       > He said the first application for the robot would likely be at
       Tesla, "moving parts around the factory or something like that."
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       I'm assuming here that since Musk's 'neural link' brain-chip is
       meant to be able to give people instant orgasms whenever they
       want one, this proposed robots initial second job will be
       floating around the factory giving out hand-jobs to any employee
       that wants one? This is how Musk intends to sell Westerners on
       the necessity of terminators? It will probably work if so....
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: April 23, 2022, 12:45 am
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 3, 2022, 12:58 am
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgFtjfO_7Q
       Some comments (as expected, only a small minority) understand:
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       > Just because we can do something, does it mean we should.
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       > Those of you that are excited by all this have no idea of the
       nightmare that awaits you.
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       > The anti christ is on its way
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       See also:
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       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: Zea_mays
       Date: May 14, 2022, 2:09 pm
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       I guess this is why ancient societies and religious orders were
       so careful about giving knowledge to individuals who were not
       trusted initiates...
       In true Western fashion, instead of working to destroy such
       algorithms completely, they published a paper and gave an
       interview basically saying how to do this. FFS...
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       > AI suggested 40,000 new possible chemical weapons in just six
       hours
       >
       > It took less than six hours for drug-developing AI to invent
       40,000 potentially lethal molecules. Researchers put AI normally
       used to search for helpful drugs into a kind of “bad actor” mode
       to show how easily it could be abused at a biological arms
       control conference.
       >
       > All the researchers had to do was tweak their methodology to
       seek out, rather than weed out toxicity. The AI came up with
       tens of thousands of new substances, some of which are similar
       to VX, the most potent nerve agent ever developed. Shaken, they
       published their findings this month in the journal Nature
       Machine Intelligence.
       > [...]
       > And so, we built up these large datasets of these molecular
       structures and how toxic they are.
       >
       > We can use these datasets in order to create a machine
       learning model, which basically learns what parts of the
       molecular structure are important for toxicity and which are
       not. Then we can give this machine learning model new molecules,
       potentially new drugs that maybe have never been tested before.
       And it will tell us this is predicted to be toxic, or this is
       predicted not to be toxic. This is a way for us to virtually
       screen very, very fast a lot of molecules and sort of kick out
       ones that are predicted to be toxic. In our study here, what we
       did is we inverted that, obviously, and we use this model to try
       to predict toxicity.
       >
       > The other key part of what we did here are these new
       generative models. We can give a generative model a whole lot of
       different structures, and it learns how to put molecules
       together. And then we can, in a sense, ask it to generate new
       molecules. Now it can generate new molecules all over the space
       of chemistry, and they’re just sort of random molecules. But one
       thing we can do is we can actually tell the generative model
       which direction we want to go. We do that by giving it a little
       scoring function, which gives it a high score if the molecules
       it generates are towards something we want. Instead of giving a
       low score to toxic molecules, we give a high score to toxic
       molecules.
       >
       > Now we see the model start producing all of these molecules, a
       lot of which look like VX and also like other chemical warfare
       agents.
       > [...]
       > Second, we actually looked at a lot of the structures of these
       newly generated molecules. And a lot of them did look like VX
       and other warfare agents, and we even found some that were
       generated from the model that were actual chemical warfare
       agents. These were generated from the model having never seen
       these chemical warfare agents. So we knew we were sort of in the
       right space here and that it was generating molecules that made
       sense because some of them had already been made before.
       >
       > For me, the concern was just how easy it was to do. A lot of
       the things we used are out there for free. You can go and
       download a toxicity dataset from anywhere. If you have somebody
       who knows how to code in Python and has some machine learning
       capabilities, then in probably a good weekend of work, they
       could build something like this generative model driven by toxic
       datasets.
       > [...]
       > I don’t want to sound very sensationalist about this, but it
       is fairly easy for someone to replicate what we did.
       >
       > If you were to Google generative models, you could find a
       number of put-together one-liner generative models that people
       have released for free. And then, if you were to search for
       toxicity datasets, there’s a large number of open-source tox
       datasets. So if you just combine those two things, and then you
       know how to code and build machine learning models — all that
       requires really is an internet connection and a computer — then,
       you could easily replicate what we did.
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       The way these "AI" work is basically by brute force trial and
       error. What evils will be unleashed when the AI learns to be
       sentient?
       #Post#: 13356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
   DIR By: 90sRetroFan
       Date: May 14, 2022, 11:24 pm
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       And then there's this shit:
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